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IP2 Ice Poseidon / Paul Denino - Insane Runescape streamer now doing Twitch IRL, always gets trolled/swatted, surrounded by thotties and junkies
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Apparently it had to do with a new set of rules on Reddit.
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They could just use that policy to migrate back to IP1 and get that banned too but Ice probably wouldn't have a problem with that anyway.
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IP1 got banned as well.
There really needs to be a non-shit social media platform. These companies make up nonsense rules as they go along and then apply them retrospectively.
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Ever since they added that restriction on Voat I stopped visiting, can't imagine they get much traffic anymore (from the little they already had). It's a shame all the spin-off social media sites inevitably turn into cancer, like Voat/Gab/etc. Horribly mismanaged and/or left to rot.
I don't know what the solution is, but the internet stinks in 2019.
Haha, cheers.
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Ice would gladly lose his reddit if IP2 goes down too, but he probably underestimates the relevancy his haters give him by memeing him. He will be sore when he can't find a venue to recreate that even if he miraculously got on their good side again.
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I'd say it's going to be next to impossible to grow his "re-branded" streams on YouTube alone now. Without any interactivity between the streams and the viewers it's not as engaging or entertaining. Half the reason he got as big as he did in the first place was Reddit.
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Not only has IP1 ans IP2 been banned but so has IP3. IP4, IP5 and r/content seems like reddit wants the remnants of Ice's community gone.
Any hope of him reviving his career died the moment he moved into the mansion and he stopped streaming on a semi-regular basis. His consistancy was bad leading up to it but after he moved into the mansion he completely stopped streaming and let his leeches stream.
Ice surrounding himself with leeches who didn't tell him "no that idea is bad" was only part of Ice's problem. The other parts are his extreme lack of motivation to stream. him not doing anything worth watching when streaming, and a failure to sometimes listen to his fans. Sometimes fan ideas and not viable or just not interesting but when you ignore them outright it really doesn't help things.
I think now would be a good time for someone to start an irl streaming community watch thread just because as this community continues to die it's members will do some exceptional shit in an attempt to stay relevant. I don't know enough about this community to make one but maybe @Denmark Mafia does.
He was never going to be able to successfully re-brand. His name is tainted and he is a "persona non grata" on twitch. Him being lazy and not streaming consistently and streaming on time is certainly hurting him but I also think it is what he is doing on streams. I became aware of pretty late in the game, when Jim did the stream about Corrine's ipad. Though from what I have seen Ice is at his best when he is outside and interacting with people or just going to some random event. One of my favorite streams from after I started watching Ice is when he went to the singles meetup being put on by those two gay old guys. I thought it was really funny because of how weird those two guys running it were and Ice trying to interact with them. I never found his desktop or gaming streams interesting.
Any hope of him reviving his career died the moment he moved into the mansion and he stopped streaming on a semi-regular basis. His consistancy was bad leading up to it but after he moved into the mansion he completely stopped streaming and let his leeches stream.
Ice surrounding himself with leeches who didn't tell him "no that idea is bad" was only part of Ice's problem. The other parts are his extreme lack of motivation to stream. him not doing anything worth watching when streaming, and a failure to sometimes listen to his fans. Sometimes fan ideas and not viable or just not interesting but when you ignore them outright it really doesn't help things.
I think now would be a good time for someone to start an irl streaming community watch thread just because as this community continues to die it's members will do some exceptional shit in an attempt to stay relevant. I don't know enough about this community to make one but maybe @Denmark Mafia does.
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He used to be a magnet for funny and ridiculous situations. He'd just walk down a street and attract the most ridiculous characters or series of events.
You're mostly right though. His ego, mixed with drugs and laziness, surrounded by yes-men, was always going to kill him. But without even having a community backing now (discord cancer doesn't count) it's the final nail in the coffin.
I've thought there should be an IRL community thread for a while, the amount of degeneracy and autism in that sphere is second to none. I'd even consider starting one but I wouldn't even know where to start.
Do Community threads have to start in proving grounds too?
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I agree he is just someone who attracts crazy and weirdness.
His Ego has always been a problem and is something that is a problem for any e-celeb when left unchecked or overly praised. Ice has no one to blame but himself for his fall.
I agree there should have already been one, the autism, stupidity and degeneracy make it a great choice for a thread. Especially in the time that has passed since Ice "shut down" his "network."
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Fuck it I'm going to start writing a draft today. I figure all the time I've wasted on this degeneracy can go to some use. How do you think it should be structured? Ice Poseidon as a starting point and then all the cast of characters that followed?
Do Community threads also have to be started in Proving Grounds?
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I'm pretty sure they do need to go in proving grounds.
I think Ice and his cast is a good start. since they are the main people in that community and the once who are certainly the most autistic. Maybe put each person in spoilers while the base of OP is explaining what IRL streaming is and why it might attract the speds it attracts. If you want some of blades back story I will post a reply in the thread when I can. I wrote a decent overview for his thread in proving grounds a while back.
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Did it get rejected? On what grounds?
edit;nvm I misread. Thought you were talking about IRL.
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Not sure, I wasn't the op that was @ReplicantWiggum. But the thread died out, I didn't really think blade was worthy of a thread on his own. Here is the thread.
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Ice gets shit on a lot and for good reason. Still, there was something there. He got "big" for a reason. His talent to act exceptional and be genuinely funny in public is something I would not discount completely. People will likely look back at his "legacy of shit" in a negative way but ice could have been a genuinely good entertainer.
The reasons for his failure are in my book:
- His lack of discipline
- Mental health:
IRL streaming fucks with your private life and it's hard to seperate.
Extremely toxic trolls and record amount of swattings fucked up his streams and his mental health.
- The concept of IRL streams of the "ice poseidon school" is not compatible with today's world. People get too offended and triggered.
- Bad people around him
- Ice eventually came across as an egomaniac which burned bridges with his fans
@not I can provide info for the thread if you need anything. E.g. I can dig up old videos.
I guess I am well informed on ice and his orbiters but not on the more recent stuff. I kinda know what happened to Blade through Metokur but that's it?
The reasons for his failure are in my book:
- His lack of discipline
- Mental health:
IRL streaming fucks with your private life and it's hard to seperate.
Extremely toxic trolls and record amount of swattings fucked up his streams and his mental health.
- The concept of IRL streams of the "ice poseidon school" is not compatible with today's world. People get too offended and triggered.
- Bad people around him
- Ice eventually came across as an egomaniac which burned bridges with his fans
@not I can provide info for the thread if you need anything. E.g. I can dig up old videos.
I guess I am well informed on ice and his orbiters but not on the more recent stuff. I kinda know what happened to Blade through Metokur but that's it?
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I generally agree with your reasons for his failure. His more vocal "toxic" fans certainly played a part in messing with him mentally. As someone who only started to watch some of his streams in late April/early May 2018, I don't really know why people hated Caroline so much when Ice was dating her, maybe you could enlighten me on that. On that topic I think the aftermath of the Horseshoe Bay incident certainly fucked with him,with the audience reaction seeming to me and most likely ice as well being that his audience didn't want him to be happy. The subsequent depression that Ice has seemingly fallen into contributing to his existing lack of discipline and mental health issues.
The "ice poseidon" style of IRL doesn't fully work now, there will be an audience for it but with demonetization and deplatforming there is little chance of anything really lasting. I think Ice knows he is at the end of his career as a streamer or atleast a succesful one which is why he keeps trying to revisit old ideas to recapture old success as well as doing what fans wanted (EU RV Trip) but failing to deliver on the people they wanted for the trip (Fans wanted Bjorn for the EU RV Trip) as well as his continued making up excuses not to stream. To me it seems like Ice is trying to become a "travel streamer" where he goes to different places in the world and does things he thinks people would have an interest in as way to drum up viewership. But I don't think that style really will work for youtube or mixer (he is going to be banned from mixer if he hasn't already) and with youtube removing the livestream section on trending I don't think he will be able to revive his career.
I haven't watched an Ice stream in months (last one was when he was in Japan looking for the squid girl figure) or his orbiters for that matter. I have kept an eye on blade through IP2 and Jim just because of my own interest in seeing how far someone I used to watch almost 10 years ago and the end of their relevancy and life (Blade is going to be dead by 2030 for sure) which is sad and a good case study of a former minor e-celeb.
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Ice paid the price for his willful permissiveness. That's all there is to it and rationalising it as mere stupidity and changing tastes is staggeringly naive. There are only so many times you can give a pulpit to the mentally unstable, get swatted, have hundreds of your fans harass any business you patronise or deal with bystanders angered by your loud, obnoxious TTS donations before you can no longer deny that you're encouraging it for a very obvious and demonstrable reward, and for any normal person it'd be after the first time.
Even years after his peak it seems like people still gobble up his excuses even as they criticise him.
Even years after his peak it seems like people still gobble up his excuses even as they criticise him.