💊 Manosphere IceCat - the defender of loveshies

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The last 5 pages or so of this thread isn't even about @IceCat. Holden has completely derailed the thread as I predicted. I know there is a function for moderators or staff members to 'lock' members to only be able to post in certain threads so I don't know why it isn't being used.
 
Holden said:
Because they'd never allow me in. The reasons why they wouldn't are that I have no family there nor do I have a highly needed STEM degree with excellent grades and had worked there.
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Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. Family and a degree are in no shape or form a requirement to gain entry into the US.
 
Stratomsk said:
The last 5 pages or so of this thread isn't even about @IceCat. Holden has completely derailed the thread as I predicted. I know there is a function for moderators or staff members to 'lock' members to only be able to post in certain threads so I don't know why it isn't being used.
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I agree, the only reason Holden is here is because he has a new captive audience here. He's forcing himself on all here. He knows that there are only a few that will interact with him, or give him a reaction, in his own thread....so he's post-raiding this one. It's sad. I, for one, will refuse to reply to Holden at all in this thread. I suggest others do the same. OR, if you have to reply to him, quote it and put it back into his own thread. I think that would work.
 
Wizzrobe said:
He and the other loveshies apparently live in a town governed by idiocracy. At least that's my best guess!
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And it would be a good one. That town is called modern Western society.

autisticdragonkin said:
@Holden how would a normal job make things worse
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Because modern Western women no longer need providers who have normal jobs. Only very wealthy providers could attract them with nothing but money. If I didn't earn enormous sums they'd see me as somebody who is just paying taxes for governments to fund their dysfunctional lifestyles.
 
Holden said:
And what you described in the second sentence is connected to things that happen to you.
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So what? My point remains the same, it doesn't matter what happens to you, what matters is how you internal view those things. Many people rise above their experiences to go on to happy and fulfilled lives.

What do you mean by "real"? That they've chosen it? So why wouldn't they be happy if they chose it?
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Good, you agree then. Having a partner is not the key to happiness.
 
If you need to talk to @Holden, quote his post and stick it in his own thread. We don't need this stupid fuck clogging up a thread that is supposed to be about @IceCat .
 
Holden said:
Because modern Western women no longer need providers who have normal jobs. Only very wealthy providers could attract them with nothing but money. If I didn't earn enormous sums they'd see me as somebody who is just paying taxes for governments to fund their dysfunctional lifestyles.
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Dude....you DO realize that not ALL western women are gold diggers/have sugar daddies right? Most women I know here in the states are pretty down to earth and care more about a man....BEING A MAN rather than how much he makes. If he does have a well paying job, that's merely a bonus to them not a life upgrade!
 
supdup said:
So what? My point remains the same, it doesn't matter what happens to you, what matters is how you internal view those things.
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So it's normal to be happy when only bad things happen? C'mon. That's bs

supdup said:
S Many people rise above their experiences to go on to happy and fulfilled lives.
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A change in their circumstances tend to also help with that.
 
Holden said:
Because modern Western women no longer need providers who have normal jobs. Only very wealthy providers could attract them with nothing but money. If I didn't earn enormous sums they'd see me as somebody who is just paying taxes for governments to fund their dysfunctional lifestyles.
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Can you explain how government is funding dysfunctional lifestyles? Which government? How many people are being funded?
 
supdup said:
Can you explain how government is funding dysfunctional lifestyles? Which government? How many people are being funded?
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Any Western government is providing no fault divorce, alimony, child support, welfare sluts get for their kids, legal protection of sluts against rape etc.


also, affirmative action
 
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Holden said:
So it's normal to be happy when only bad things happen? C'mon. That's bs
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I didn't say that. I know it's hard, but follow along.

I said people rise above their experiences. Nowhere did I say those experiences are all bad, and nowhere did I say they would only be happy if they had bad experiences.


A change in their circumstances tend to also help with that.
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And that change is an internal change to their perspective of their life and the world.
 
Wizzrobe said:
Dude....you DO realize that not ALL western women are gold diggers/have sugar daddies right?
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And I never said that ! I said that most are well off just being funded by the government. Those who want to pursue rich guys instead of govt money aren't that numerous, for there aren't that many rich guys and most tend to be married.
 
Holden said:
Any Western government is providing no fault divorce, alimony, child support, welfare sluts get for their kids, legal protection of sluts against rape etc.
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The only thing you listed that comes from tax dollars is welfare. Alimony and Child Support came from either the husband or wife, not from the government. On average roughly 23 percent of households receive welfare. That's counting EVERYONE, not just single moms. Your assertions do not hold water when you look at actual facts and not your schizotypal fantasy world.
 
Holden said:
And I never said that ! I said that most are well off just being funded by the government. Those who want to pursue rich guys instead of govt money aren't that numerous, for there aren't that many rich guys and most tend to be married.
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You are just flat out wrong. Less than 23% of the population is getting government money. That is not "most".

And who are you to judge? Aren't you collecting welfare?
 
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