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I believe my friend Azazel already did that.

I'd also add that though Loveshy is a predominantly for loveshy it is for incel also, so (unfortunately heh) I post there about that too. Pretty sure I explained that already near beginning of topic.
 
IceCat said:
I'd also add that though Loveshy is a predominantly for loveshy it is for incel also
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What is the difference between incel and loveshy? As far as I know they are one and the same.
LordAzazel said:
Icecat doesn't seem to consider having dated a girl a few times as a real girlfriend, but acknowledges that technically you could call her that, if you'd stretch the term to "girl I've dated for a short period". He has reiterated this several times.







Yes he did.

It's getting boring to see the same questions popping up again and again. Can we please think of new ones?
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If he isn't going to address questions that haven't been answered, I don't see the point of asking new ones.
 
IceCat said:
I've never lied.

And I did do the top 5 be.
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This is what you told @flossman:
Floss: Now, you also mentioned earlier in the thread that you had a girlfriend before.

Ice: Right. Yeah, that’s true. I have. Well, if you really...

Floss: [interrupts briefly]

Floss: Oh, no, go ahead…

Ice: If you really want to stretch the term, then, you know, then I’ve had maybe more than one. But, you know, one if you want to say, like, a real relationship “term” or whatever. I would say one, I guess.

Floss: And when did that happen? How old were you?

Ice: That actually happened when I was 26, I think, and it lasted about a year and a half, um, a year. It kind of turned into… well, I found the relationship when I moved to a different country, actually. It’s, yeah, you study these love-shies, these incel guys, as well, and it happens quite a lot, I’ve noticed. They, don’t mind where they’re staying. They get stuck in a rut, so they travel. It’s pretty good advice. It’s what I did. I went to Spain and got a job teaching over there, and found a pretty nice girl. Yeah, and it was that, basically.
IceCat said:
no last gf was not 8 yrs ago, technically I could even say a few months ago
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You didn't mention this during the interview, therefore you lied. Please, use some self-awareness when you post.
IceCat said:
I'm ex-loveshy and technically incel also
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Why would you go to loveshy.com if your are neither of these things?
 
autisticdragonkin said:
@IceCat how do LGBT individuals relate to the loveshy worldview
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I'm kinda wondering this too, but I remember there not being much of a consensus on the loveshy forums about these issues.
Therefore it might be more productive to ask @IceCat : What is your own stance on gay marriage?

What's your opinion on Seren_Lurker's stance that if a man cheats we have to look the other way, but if a woman cheats she has to be put to death?

You mentioned that you agree with FSmidt on some issues we should follow the Bible more. How should we decide what parts to follow and what parts not?
 
autisticdragonkin said:
@IceCat how do LGBT individuals relate to the loveshy worldview
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I asked Holden about it (Asexuals, specifically) and he said LGBTs do not matter because they're not on the potential mate radar, as it were. I don't know outside of that view, but he didn't go in to further detail and I didn't ask follow-ups. -- I was just glad he didn't mention that they also needed to be put to death, like I feel Fschmitlet would do. (Btw, I'll add that question to my notes)
 
I don't really have an opinion on them
if they want to get married, then yeh I suppose I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Cheating is all down to the ppl involved; if the partner wants to forgive, up to them.

Following the Bible more would be great. Most parts are OK to follow from what I know.
 
Stratomsk said:
What is the difference between incel and loveshy? As far as I know they are one and the same.
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I think there is a difference. Love shyness is a real thing I've seen referred to as "approach anxiety" in psychological literature. Loveshy's can't even approach women, while incels can't get laid unless they pay for it.

Also, Incel is made-up, where loveshy is slang for something identified in psychology.

At least that's how I understand it.
 
IceCat said:
Following the Bible more would be great. Most parts are OK to follow from what I know.
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If we did that, we would be killing LGBT people, along with adulterers and rape victims.

Following the bible more would definitely not be great.
 
IceCat said:
I don't really have an opinion on them
if they want to get married, then yeh I suppose I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Cheating is all down to the ppl involved; if the partner wants to forgive, up to them.

Following the Bible more would be great. Most parts are OK to follow from what I know.
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Have you not read the Old Testament in full. There's a lot of shit in there that I think would be insane to try to implement in today's society. I wouldn't wanna get stoned to death for the littlest things and I know you wouldn't either.
 
dollarpennypincher said:
Have you not read the Old Testament in full. There's a lot of shit in there that I think would be insane to try to implement in today's society. I wouldn't wanna get stoned to death for the littlest things and I know you wouldn't either.
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I actually think of the quote from Reverand Lovejoy from the Simpsons when I think about the Old Testament:

(Paraphrased quote, because I know I'm probably not getting it 100 percent right)

"Have ya ever really sat down to read this thing? Technically, you're not even allowed to go to the bathroom..."
 
IceCat said:
I don't think Jesus would agree with that
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Ah, see, there we run into a problem.

I happen to agree that Jesus' message about love and tolerance is pretty great, but if you are only following Jesus, you're not following the Bible.

You'd still have to sell your daughter to her rapist if she's raped:

Deuteronomy 22:29
Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

If you've got testicular cancer, you're still shit out of luck.

Deuteronomy 23:1
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

And so on, and so on.

Of course, this is Old Testament, but Jesus was pretty clear all the Old Testament laws still apply:

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

So if you say you think Jesus is pretty great and try to structure your life as he would, I could agree (although remember he came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword Matthew 10:34), if you say you're structuring your life around the Bible I'd have to ask again:

LordAzazel said:
How should we decide what parts to follow and what parts not?
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FSmidt didn't have an answer to this question btw. He just blocked me without answering.
 
IceCat said:
I don't think Jesus would agree with that
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Not sure your point. I don't want to turn this into a religious debate thread, but I encourage you to actually study what the bible says, both the OT and NT. It's not the fluffy "love everyone" hippy book that apologist like to say it is. And according the the NT, Jesus was kind of a jerk. I can point out specific things if you want.
 
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