If Hitler had died as a baby, would it have changed anything?

[skykiii]

This is a common plot thread in fiction (though not one I experience a lot because I tend to immediately go "yawn" whenever a plot synopsis involves the Nazis)--going back in time and making sure Hitler died before he had a chance to enter politics, often him dying as a child.

But would it actually change anything? From what I'm aware of, Hitler was more of a public spokesman than an actual mastermind.

In my mind the biggest change I see is that instead of libtards saying "you're literally Hitler" they would instead be saying "you're literally [Some other Austrian or German name]!"

But I dunno, maybe I'm missing something.

What do you think?

 

[Fascist Frederick]

I agree, there would have been someone else to do the exact same thing. The only thing that would change is the name of the Austrian boogey man.

 

[The Tall Man]

It can be argued that Hitler's decisions based on showing good will and kindness, when he should have been harsh and brutal, are a big reason Germany lost.
A leader that would have been willing to go full force against the Bongs and use nerve gas and not worry so much about civilian casualties, probably would have won.

Maybe we would all be speaking German.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The reason why Jews would invent time travel is to kill Hitler. Which I suspect they did and kept failing every time.

 

[Male Idiot]

This is a mass debates thread.

Ghost Hitler would still be the spiritual, heh, leader of the KKK.

It is important to understand that people didn't start out evil as a baby. WW1 and Weimar just was too much for people to bear and they snapped, and Schlomo did nazi see that coming.

All this "Lets go back in time kill Hitler" is goyslop made by jews to appeal to 50 IQ mutts. Likely because any audience that dumb propably has no idea that there were people beside Hitler and Stalin, and are smarter than usual if they know about Lenin at all.

 

[MoonMare]

I do believe there was deep hatred towards the jews and slavs, and the others who tortured the german empire. But Hitler really was an amazing politician, he united the nation towards wars that never would have happened without him. If you listen to his speeches they truly are remarkable, and they were certainly a big part in Germany's willingness to fight.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

If you've ever played Command & Conquer/Red Alert, you know damn well what happens.

Aliens.

 

[make_it_so]

There was more than likely going to be another big war in Europe even if Hitler never rose to power, simply due to various grievances all the nations in that region had with one another. Plus don't forget down south, Mussolini was trying to LARP as Caesar and probably would've sparked another large conflict if not in Europe proper then in the Mediterranean.

 

[Shamefur Dispray]

Technically removing an insect from the past changes the present unimaginably. A historical figure being removed would alter the present even more.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

They might be in politics now in Germany like Mussolini's family is today Italy. edit: sorry I thought you said "had a baby".

 

[skykiii]

If you've ever played Command & Conquer/Red Alert, you know damn well what happens.

Aliens.

I never got that far, but I know the Soviets end up inventing the Tesla Coil.

Other computer game I remember featuring altered history was Titanic: Adventure Out of Time, where depending on events taking place on the boat, either history plays out as normal, the Soviets rise to power instead, or there's even a path where everything is hunky-dorey and neither bad group ever rises to power and World War II just never happens at all.

 

[PonderosaPete]

No, antisemitism is eternal.

 

[SIMIΔN]

A leader that would have been willing to go full force against the Bongs and use nerve gas and not worry so much about civilian casualties, probably would have won.

Hitler was fanatically anti-chemical warfare due to his experiences in WWI.
Even if he wasn't, he wouldn't want to justify Britain mass gas bombing German cities.

Though, a more brutal Hitler would have shifted industry to a total war footing earlier, so would probably have done better in that regard.

Germany and its allies would probably still lost. The only non-outlandish scenario they might have won was if they concentrated fully on securing Middle Eastern oil whilst checkmating Russian oil production with long range bombers. Even then, victory wouldn't be guaranteed. Securing the straits of Gibraltar would have helped, and treating Slavs with more dignity to turn this into a war against communism instead of an invasion to be fought would help too. Getting Japan to lay off China would probably have been impossible by the time he took power.

 

[Male Idiot]

He did have great charisma. But imagine if Eichmann was the Führer. I don't think the movie making merchants would like that outcome. Most of Europe was itching for a fight, slavs do as slavs do. They fight.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Hitler wasn’t really special.

I don’t think his speeches were particularly unique, because EVERYONE had good speeches back in the day before they reduced the reading level to grade six and below. Winston Churchill had fantastic speeches and got booted as soon as the war was over.

Hitler was a designated front man, a puppet of some intelligentsia faction who managed to cut his strings and spiraled after he did, when he started making his own decisions.

 

[The Tall Man]

justify Britain mass gas bombing German cities.

"At least it wasn't ze gas" -Hitler

They had Sarin gas and could have easily mass produce it.
Hitler only talked about total war, but never had the guts to do it.

Those that actively targeted civilians won and those that tried to minimize civilian casualties lost.

 

[The Ugly One]

Since the Treaty of Versailles was indefinite, and Germany already had its secret tank program going before Hitler rose to power, it's almost certain another war would have followed WWI. However, without Hitler, there would have been no Lebensraum ideology and this obsession with ethnically cleansing Russia, massacring the Poles, annihilating Leningrad, etc. Long-standing ethnic tensions in Europe had never before resulted in somebody in Germany deciding to go Genghis Khan on nearly everyone between Berlin and the Volga, and Hitler had enough trouble convincing his generals it was a good idea to think that without him, it wouldn't have happened. The General Staff and nearly everyone in Germany would have been thrilled to finally bring France into submission and call it a day.

Those that actively targeted civilians won and those that tried to minimize civilian casualties lost.

The Germans killed 1.5 million civilians in Leningrad. The standing order from Hitler was to accept no surrender, kill the entire population, and raze the city.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Unfortunately I don’t remember what it was called, but there was a skit where a time traveler returns proud he killed Shmadolf Smitler and saved all 600 Jews, only to realize the horrific consequences of the new timeline.

 

[Android raptor]

I would murder baby Hitler

 

[The Tall Man]

The Germans killed 1.5 million civilians in Leningrad. The standing order from Hitler was to accept no surrender, kill the entire population, and raze the city.

He had this delusional idea that the English were his brothers and so he was doomed to loose from the start.
Victory was only achieved by completely destroying civilian infrastructure and actively targeting civilians.