If Hitler had died as a baby, would it have changed anything?

[Krokodil Overdose]

No.

Woodrow Wilson, on the other hand...

 

[Fried-Rice12]

The only one with a brain was Patton and he is also the only man from the allies side i really admire.

They killed him shortly thereafter in an (((car accident))) because they feared he would try and pick a fight with the judeo-bolsheviks.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Why? Britain and France needed a buffer for powerful Soviet Russians from the east. And maybe, they may have even gotten Danzig with proper diplomacy at the expense of Poland because hey

Why? Poland has been the best buffer throughout post Roman European history, from when Russia was ruled by slantier eyed rice Comanches.

Poland helped stop the Ottomans when they held Vienna. Poland was one of the only places in Europe to bother to send troops to try to help the Byzantines before that.

Absorbed into the USSR? No problem, Poland still functioned as an actual buffer and broke away before the final collapse. Germany was only a unified Central European power from like 1860 to 1944.

Your fantasy is basically “the lannisters would make a better buffer than the night’s watch”

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Why? Poland has been the best buffer throughout post Roman European history, from when Russia was ruled by slantier eyed rice Comanches.

Poland helped stop the Ottomans when they held Vienna. Poland was one of the only places in Europe to bother to send troops to try to help the Byzantines before that.

Absorbed into the USSR? No problem, Poland still functioned as an actual buffer and broke away before the final collapse. Germany was only a unified Central European power from like 1860 to 1944.

Your fantasy is basically “the lannisters would make a better buffer than the night’s watch”

Wish more people knew the history of the Baltic States or of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, but only so much time in the day.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Why? Poland has been the best buffer throughout post Roman European history, from when Russia was ruled by slantier eyed rice Comanches.

Poland helped stop the Ottomans when they held Vienna. Poland was one of the only places in Europe to bother to send troops to try to help the Byzantines before that.

Absorbed into the USSR? No problem, Poland still functioned as an actual buffer and broke away before the final collapse. Germany was only a unified Central European power from like 1860 to 1944.

Your fantasy is basically “the lannisters would make a better buffer than the night’s watch”

Judging by how Poland got steamrolled, I highly doubt that.

 

[PurpleBurger88]

Judging by how Poland got steamrolled, I highly doubt that.

The entire reason Poland was conquered in 1939 by the Soviets and Germans was because it was a buffer. It gave the Germans the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact, so I'd say it served its purpose. That was also the real reason Germany pushed the Poland issue because it needed a direct border with the Soviets from which they could invade.
Danzig ist Deutsch.

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

Nothing was special about hitler. He was a run of the mill gay Austrian kid in art school who liked playing around with tarot cards

They're dime a dozen, especially in the "roaring 20s in ultra-gay Europe

If hitler had died, some other edgelord art school pillow biter would have been chosen

 

[RybenZ999]

OP would still be a faggot that would remain unchanged.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Woodrow Wilson, on the other hand...

"The Election That Ruined Everything (And If It Never Happened)"

- AlternateHistoryHub

 

[pot of sneed]

I read a comic once where Batman got shot as a kid instead of his parents. What happened was that his parents, devastated by their beloved child's death, became Batman (Thomas) and the Joker (Martha), making for a much worse timeline for all involved than if the parents had been shot as per canon. Killing Hitler wouldn't have changed as Weimar Germany was a horrific period that needed much carnage to solve the inherent issues, leading to problems all around Europe that are still being felt today. Killing Hitler would have only postponed the inevitable and very likely much worse bloodshed.

 

[The Ugly One]

They should have sided with Hitler and destroyed communistic Russia

When? In 1939, Hitler was an ally of Stalin, and they jointly invaded Poland. One of the major suppliers of the German war effort right up until the day Operation Barbarossa launched was the Soviet Union.

Besides, Hitler didn't invade the USSR to defeat communism per se. He invaded it to exterminate its entire population and repopulate it with Germans, irrespective of what political order it happened to be under. What do you think would have happened, Hitler offers London a peace deal in 1941 where they agree to a cease-fire in exchange for the British helping to depopulate Russian towns?

 

[Doctor Love]

What do you think would have happened, Hitler offers London a peace deal in 1941 where they agree to a cease-fire in exchange for the British helping to depopulate Russian towns?

You mean, like, just after Hitler assembled the largest invasion force in history and betrayed someone he had a peace deal with?

 

[Doctor Love]

Killing Hitler would have only postponed the inevitable and very likely much worse bloodshed.

lol so there's a minor theory that Hitler's weird opinions towards Britain came from his sister, who lived in Liverpool and that he may have actually lived in the UK for a few months, specifically in the North-West.

I know you were making a good point, but Billy Hitler vs Heinz Hitler?

Judging by how Poland got steamrolled, I highly doubt that.

Poland put up a hell of a fight, all things considered. Nobody was expecting Germany to unveil its fucking secret arsenal - Germany was more like "a gorilla who lies" by this point.

Sure, he says he's up for peace - but if he's lying, you then have to fight a fucking gorilla in hand-to-hand combat. The exact same gorilla has gone door-to-door and viciously mauled every single person in the entire street. What exactly is your plan if you make a deal with said gorilla, and later learn it was untrue? I bet the USSR was regretting every Pole it murdered when the gorilla was coming through the door.

All things considered, most of the Second World War can be summed up as "trying to endure a gorilla's full strength until it gets tired and then chasing it with a spear"

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Germany should have just been exterminated. Any Germans worth keeping around had already moved to Pennsylvania, Texas and the Great Plains.

 

[TheRetardKing]

I would murder baby Hitler

But Deadpool already did that...Well, with his friend Cable, that is. He loves killing kids.

 

[Father Fornicatio]

When? In 1939, Hitler was an ally of Stalin, and they jointly invaded Poland. One of the major suppliers of the German war effort right up until the day Operation Barbarossa launched was the Soviet Union.

Besides, Hitler didn't invade the USSR to defeat communism per se. He invaded it to exterminate its entire population and repopulate it with Germans, irrespective of what political order it happened to be under. What do you think would have happened, Hitler offers London a peace deal in 1941 where they agree to a cease-fire in exchange for the British helping to depopulate Russian towns?

Well Hitler feared that if he didn't attack Russia, Russia would attack Germany and would have done so for Stalin wanted the world. Hitler also felt justified attacking Poland because Poland were persecuting ethnic Germans in areas that previous where German but due to loosing the first WW and the treaty of Versailles were now Polish. And i have trouble to believe that Germans really initiated operation scourged ground, there are witness account that Russian villages welcomed the German army since Stalin had robbed them blind and they were starving. There are also witness accounts that the Russian army themselves destroyed entire villages for not fighting hard enough against the Germans.

If, and this is pure speculation, the UK had made peace with Nazi Germany instead of going to war, there would be no second world war, and Russia would have never been invaded for being no treat to Germany. There is evidence pointing this way. First Hitler and Chamberlain had a mutual understanding that war must been avoided but Germany wanted back its righteous clay and argued that the treaty of Versailles would kill Germany. Chamberlain understood this but was removed from position in favor of Winston Churchill a warmonger. Until the last second Hitler was open to peace talks but also realized he had to deliver on what he promised the German people. Second when Hitler invaded Russia his army was ill equipped and in no condition to weather the harsh conditions which he was aware of but clearly saw no other option than a preemptive strike on Russia whom had the largest armored army at that time.
Hitler was certainly no altar boy and was a dictator who ruled with an iron fist, but he was no idiot and new he would loose the war if he fought a two front war.

But history is written by the victors and the fist casualty in war is the truth, like we have now with the Ukrainian war. I think the whole situation was far more nuanced than it is portrayed in the history books.

 

[Doctor Love]

First Hitler and Chamberlain had a mutual understanding that war must been avoided but Germany wanted back its righteous clay and argued that the treaty of Versailles would kill Germany.

No, no, Chamberlain was either biding for time, or a retard.

He's remembered as the latter, but the former is also true - he did seem to build up the military.

This was like, the fifth or sixth dictator to play the same tricks. The UK was well aware of the strategy and even warned the USSR that he was going to turn on them. Using treaties to "split" the continent, so you can focus on one at a time. This was pretty basic history for the average Brit, even at the time. Napoleon, for example.

"Oh, no, dear Britain, we will happily ally with you! You're a naval power, we have no interest in harming your country!" - he says - then launches a gigantic battleship into the North Sea, grinning.

It wasn't as if Britain was ready for war, but it's straight-up Stalinist propaganda to say Britain was trying to initiate a conflict. Seriously, Stalin actually pushed that narrative to cover for the fact that his own failures - siding with Germany at first - led directly to the deaths of so many Soviets.

This is unironically where a big chunk of the Cold War comes from, Stalin trying to hide the fact that everyone in Europe knew, full-well, that Germany would turn on the USSR.

 

[Fareal]

Fundamentally no, but the expansionist German nationalist movement might have been less hilariously homoerotic.

 

[The Ugly One]

Well Hitler feared that if he didn't attack Russia, Russia would attack Germany and would have done so for Stalin wanted the world.

Hitler says in the penultimate chapter of Mein Kampf that the destiny of the German Volk is to conquer the lands to their east, remove the current population, and take it for themselves. Generalplan Ost is not a work of speculative fiction.

Hitler also felt justified attacking Poland because Poland were persecuting ethnic Germans in areas that previous where German

Operation Himmler was a series of false flag attacks to create a causus belli against Poland. The key thing here is they were false flags. They weren't real. The Germans then proceeded to murder about 4 million Polish civilians, including indiscriminately slaughtering civilians in their homes during the Warsaw Uprising. This is because, as noted earlier, Hitler's Lebensraum ideology had Poles flagged as one of the untermenschen who were standing in the way of the Thousand-Year Reich.

And i have trouble to believe that Germans really initiated operation scourged ground, there are witness account that Russian villages welcomed the German army since Stalin had robbed them blind and they were starving.

Yes, they did. Then the Nazis enslaved them, exiled them, or murdered them. The Nazi treatment of Slavs is how the Communists were able to muster so many enthusiastic partisans.

None of this should be hard to believe if you've actually read a single thing Hitler had to say about his plans for the eastern conquests.

If, and this is pure speculation, the UK had made peace with Nazi Germany instead of going to war, there would be no second world war, and Russia would have never been invaded for being no treat to Germany.

Absolute retardation, from Hitler's own writings and speeches to his generals, conquering and depopulating the Lebensraum was the point of rearming to begin with. It was not an unfortunate side effect of British intervention. There's no course of history where Hitler is in power and doesn't try to make Lebensraum become real.

Second when Hitler invaded Russia his army was ill equipped and in no condition to weather the harsh conditions which he was aware of but clearly saw no other option than a preemptive strike on Russia whom had the largest armored army at that time.

No, when Hitler issued Directive 21 in December 1940, the expectation was they would invade in May and have finished off the Red Army by October. Even when Operation Barbarossa launched, in Directive 32, he was already discussing what to do following the expected conquest in late autumn '41. There was no backup plan because Hitler didn't think he needed any. Lieutenant-General von Seidel, who was the chief quartermaster of the army, actually did bring up the topic with high command, and he was angrily dismissed, because even suggesting that they might need winter gear evinced a lack of faith in the plans of the great leader.

irst Hitler and Chamberlain had a mutual understanding that war must been avoided but Germany wanted back its righteous clay and argued that the treaty of Versailles would kill Germany. Chamberlain understood this but was removed from position in favor of Winston Churchill a warmonger.

This is one of the weirdest myths online Nazis tell. Somehow, you don't even get basic dates right. The government under Chamberlain declared war on Germany in September 1939. Britain had been at war with Germany under Chamberlain for eight months when Chamberlain resigned - the day Germany invaded France - and had engaged German forces at sea already. He died of cancer six months later.

One of the weirdest things about internet Nazis is how your lionization of Nazi Germany and your fantasy that Hitler was on a mission to stop "degeneracy" if it weren't for the Eternal Anglo ruining everything by forcing Hitler to waste 1/3 of the Luftwaffe bombing London is that apparently, not even Hitler himself is taken as a reliable source for what his plans, ideas, and motivations were.

 

[Father Fornicatio]

Yes putting question marks behind the accepted narrative makes you a Nazi by default, well Heil Hitler and kill da Jews then. Read Mein Kampf again in German and look for a WWII pocket version, there are some differences with the translation, and while Hitler was a raving madman at the end of the war,like most of his staff, history is written by the victors. Next you gonna tell me that the Neurenberg trails were fair and righteous.