If Hitler had died as a baby, would it have changed anything?

[BerserkKing99]

We'd prolly have an even bigger and deadlier dictator probably more in common with Hadrian than anything since the world wouldn't be prepared for a dictator like hitler if he died as a baby

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

If you've ever played Command & Conquer/Red Alert, you know damn well what happens.

Aliens.

Everything in history is the work of aliens, though. Even your mom.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

Germany and its allies would probably still lost.

Hitler fucking jobbed WWII, and could've won had he been less autistic/put on drugs by his doc.

 

[Power Ranger Monster]

This gave me a plot idea: someone prevents Hitler from suicide and drops him off at the start of his prime so there can be two Hitlers.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

This gave me a plot idea: someone prevents Hitler from suicide and drops him off at the start of his prime so there can be two Hitlers.

And he somehow starts a new life in some random place in Argentina. Why? Look, South America is a magical place where monkeys have prehensile tails, giant guinea pigs exist, and people get free helicopter rides. Just run with it.

 

[The Ugly One]

He had this delusional idea that the English were his brothers and so he was doomed to loose from the start.
Victory was only achieved by completely destroying civilian infrastructure and actively targeting civilians.

Over 40,000 British civilians were killed during the 1940 Blitz, with another 100K or so injured, and 2 million houses destroyed. Later, about 6,000 by V-1 bombs, and another 6,000 by V-2 bombs, the latter of two which were launched pretty indiscriminately at densely populated areas. If Hitler was trying to avoid civilian casualties in the UK, this would have been news to anyone in London at the time. The reason that the Germans did not kill more civilians in the UK was they lost so many planes during the Battle of Britain and the Blitz that Goering's wings got clipped, not because Hitler was a nice guy who felt bad about British civilian casualties. Goering also refused to collaborate with the Kriegsmarine and bomb British ports because he was a fat retard. Plus, they needed what was left of the badly beat-up Luftwaffe to invade the Soviet Union.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Mussolini is left unfettered to create a new Roman Empire.
Japan continues to quietly take over the Pacific.

 

[The Tall Man]

Over 40,000 British civilians were killed during the 1940 Blitz, with another 100K or so injured, and 2 million houses destroyed. Later, about 6,000 by V-1 bombs, and another 6,000 by V-2 bombs, the latter of two which were launched pretty indiscriminately at densely populated areas. If Hitler was trying to avoid civilian casualties in the UK, this would have been news to anyone in London at the time. The reason that the Germans did not kill more civilians in the UK was they lost so many planes during the Battle of Britain and the Blitz that Goering's wings got clipped, not because Hitler was a nice guy who felt bad about British civilian casualties. Goering also refused to collaborate with the Kriegsmarine and bomb British ports because he was a fat retard. Plus, they needed what was left of the badly beat-up Luftwaffe to invade the Soviet Union.

You don't win a war by killing a measly 40,000 Limeys, you do it by mercilessly slaughtering civilians.

It is thought that some 25,000–35,000 civilians died in Dresden in the air attacks, though some estimates are as high as 250,000, given the influx of undocumented refugees that had fled to Dresden from the Eastern Front.

He wasn't willing to use all the weapons at his disposal.
You cannot win a war if you are not willing to do everything in your power to win.
Hitler wasn't willing to gas millions of Bongs, so he was destined to lose.

The only situation in which moral grand standing is viable in war is when you are significantly more powerful than your opponent.

How is it so hard to understand that if you are not willing to exert more violence than your opponent, you will not win?

PS British people should never be considered civilians or human, they should always be seen as a sickness that needs to be cured with nerve gas.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

A historical figure being removed would alter the present even more.

I'm going to make a fair assessment that for American Kiwis, there's like a 90% chance we're the children of Baby Boomers (myself included). Even the Zoomers here are grandchildren of the Boomers. Why is this important? Boomers obviously have that name because they were born in the massive baby boom following the end of WW2 when Europe and Asia got their shit pushed in, and the United States became the world's Chad superpower. If WW2 never happened, then our Boomer parents/grandparents would have never been born after the war. The shape of the 20th century would thus have been radically altered beyond recognition. It's not just us Kiwis here -- it's the entire configuration of everything pertaining to the 2nd half 20th century. Everything from cultural demographics, entertainment, technology, environmental factors, and modern technology -- all of it -- stems from either Boomers or post-WW2 in some way. The music we listen to would never have existed, the geographic landscape of our suburbs would not have grown, and a lot of our biggest technological achievements would either not exist or look completely different.

We can joke all we want about how great a world would be without Boomers, and look, I get that; I know how frustrating it is to wait in line at CVS getting stuck behind some fat old dipshits who don't know how the self-checkout functions. I get that. But jokes aside, it's impossible to imagine how the western world's landscape would be if there was never a major world war in the mid-20th century, followed by a gigantic population boom. Jesus Christ, I'm typing this right now on a computer that uses software initially made by Boomer computer nerds, and I'm using the internet that was invented during the Boomer era thanks to the government accelerating military technology during the Cold War.

Trying to visualize a modern world without WW2 (or the Cold War that followed) is like trying to visualize what colors look like if you're colorblind. Our brains can't comprehend it.

 

[skykiii]

PS British people should never be considered civilians or human, they should always be seen as a sickness that needs to be cured with never gas.

What the fuck is "never gas?" Is that like, what Tinkerbell makes after eating too many beans?

(Yeah I know you probably meant "nerve gas" but considering how many bioweapons there are I can't rule out that "never gas" is an actual thing).

 

[The Tall Man]

What the fuck is "never gas?" Is that like, what Tinkerbell makes after eating too many beans?

(Yeah I know you probably meant "nerve gas" but considering how many bioweapons there are I can't rule out that "never gas" is an actual thing).

It's Peter Pan's favorite knockout drug; it takes you all the way to Neverland. When you wake up, you will never remember what Peter did to you.

 

[Turk on the lurk]

You would live in a world without Volkswagen and Fanta.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

The countries were at a boiling point anyways

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Would it have stopped World War One?
Probably not. So no.

He had this delusional idea that the English were his brothers and so he was doomed to loose from the start.
Victory was only achieved by completely destroying civilian infrastructure and actively targeting civilians.

Does it hurt you to type all of your autistic bullshit in English?

 

[Kankichi Ryotsu]

No, things wouldn't have turned out the same. I understand the flaws of great man history, but let's not kid ourselves. Hitler was NOT superfluous. He was instrumental in bringing the national socialists into power. Without Hitler you'd have had a different guy in charge who may or may have nit gassed the jews. War in Europe may have happened with the threat of communism but the political players and alliances may have been different.

 

[Pomniman]

Everyone who ends up being famous is a villain to some and hero to others just by virtue of being "larger than life". Doesn't matter what they even did, people are just impressed by flashy large spectacles, or crimes, or disasters, or gamblers who always win (who are really just cheaters). Anything that defies common sense just mesmerizes people automatically whether it's a dream or a nightmare, because fantasy is what gives people the will to keep living.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

Obviously.

Stalin would have invaded Europe, been defeated, the puppet leader the Allies installed in the Soviet Union would have betrayed them with the help of a psychic named Yuri and invaded the USA via Mexico. When it was clear the Soviets were no longer useful Yuri would attempt to dominate the world psychically. This is where things get weird. In one timeline Yuri is eventually stopped by a joint Allied-Soviet counterattack, in another timeline the Soviets end up tracking Yuri to his castle in Transylvania and launching a successful attack. Before he is defeated Yuri attempts to escape using a stolen time machine but accidently transports himself to the Jurassic era where he is eaten by a T-Rex. The Soviets are now the sole superpower on Earth and begin plans to colonise space. In yet another timeline, the Soviets are yet again on the brink of defeat by Allied forces and use a time machine to go back and kill Einstein, the man who is most responsible for the Allied technological edge. This plan succeeds but opens up a whole new can of worms: The Empire of the Rising Sun. Thus begins a 3 way war between the Soviets led by Tim Curry, the Allies led by JK Simmons and the Imperial Japanese led by George Takei.

Tl;dr: Yes it would have changed a lot.

 

[The Ugly One]

He wasn't willing to use all the weapons at his disposal.

In 1940, the Nazis didn't have any superweapon capable of killing the entire population of London, and they failed to develop an atomic weapon. Gas wasn't even that effective in WWI. A total of 90,000 soldiers were killed over years of use of gas canisters, making up about 1% of combat deaths.

BTW, the only source for the 200K+ number for Dresden deaths is Nazi propaganda. 25K is the ceiling on deaths from actual records; legitimate estimates range from 20K to 25K. You don't need to hide the fact that you're a Nazi Wehraboo whose history comes from The Greatest Story Never Told and "fashy podcasts."

You don't win a war by killing a measly 40,000 Limeys, you do it by mercilessly slaughtering civilians.

Which he did in the East. And lost. The USSR lost more civilians to WW2 both in absolute and relative terms than Germany did. Because mercilessly slaughtering civilians meant the German administrators were now sitting on top of a population that hated them so much that living under Stalin was a better deal, so during the Soviet counterattacks, partisan activity, especially seizing and destroying airfields, significantly hampered the Wehrmacht's ability to operate. The Allies won because after the Battle of France, Hitler developed a bad habit of ordering enormous amounts of men and materiel hurled into the maw of the enemy's guns, resulting in no strategic victory, the loss of enormous numbers of veteran soldiers, and the destruction of machinery faster than German factories could replenish it.

Anyway, you're retarded, stop being a retard.

 

[Doctor Love]

In 1940, the Nazis didn't have any superweapon capable of killing the entire population of London, and they failed to develop an atomic weapon. Gas wasn't even that effective in WWI. A total of 90,000 soldiers were killed over years of use of gas canisters, making up about 1% of combat deaths.

lol do we have to go over this one? You don't even know the difference between concentration and density.




To answer the thread, itself - if Hitler hadn't died, it would be someone else.

Everyone and their mother was trying to influence German politics, and evidently, the USA was actually a significant reason for the unified "moral panic" and "militarised nation".

The idea of a righteous Germany crusading in a zealous, militarised way was horrifying to everyone at the time, except for the USA - and the result of the USA's policies towards "Free Press" - Wilsonism and the associated "Lost Cause" narrative was actively exported to Europe.

The first major "Racial Scandal" in Germany was the Rhineland occupation - caused entirely by American moral panic being deliberately pushed into Europe.

If no Hitler, then it'd just be another variation of the same German Nationalism. Maybe they'd incorporate America's surprisingly old obsession with big black cock.

 

[The Tall Man]

@The Ugly One @CAPTAIN MATI
Imagine outing yourself as a Limey, no shame.