I'm getting too old for this shit.

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No matter what happens, know I have always enjoyed this site for as long as I've been part of it, and discovering KF back in 2016 honest to god helped me turn my life around. If it ends, thanks for everything, and if it keeps going, I'll still be here checking on ALR and Sapphire Crimson Claw like always.

I hope you find the answers you're looking for.
 
I would miss this place. Even though I'm not especially close to anyone here, it's the first place on the internet in a long time where I've felt like I'm home. And I don't think a replacement would be easy in coming. Not a lot of people would be willing to put up with what you have to keep this spergfest running.

But you do what you gotta do. Don't throw your life away for the sake of our autism.
 
I don't know what you mean by "original spirit".

the site has evolved and exploded in unprecedented ways. it's not lesser than what it was in 2013.

it has done a big part in the free speech battle on the internet and has documented forever many things that would have been lost or hard to find otherwise. trump having a tantrum on twitter is just that.

What Null was trying to say is that the original intention when he started running this show was to have some fun, and it doesn't feel fun anymore. That's understandable. He's been hassled by assholes trying to deny him funding, put up with all sorts of legal BS, had lunatics threaten his life IRL, and has had his reputation pissed on despite fighting a battle for a cause anyone with integrity should respect. The content itself, as he described, drifted pretty far from his original vision in many ways that just made the above feel even more thankless to put up with.

I know I couldn't take the burden on his shoulders in any capacity, surprised he hasn't collapsed from the weight of it to this point, would rather see Null happy than miserable no matter what he decides to do.
 
Tbh, subscription fees to access most of the site would cut down on sightseers and probably bring it back to a smaller community. And more mods. More taxes, more cops.

A lot of weird people have joined in the last year.

I would completely support this, in combination with Null being able to take some time away so the mods can deal with our uncontained autism.
 
Alright, let me powerlevel some with you.

A long time ago my family were legit refugees and we came real close to paying the ultimate price for what we believed in. I have seen people pay that price for what they believe in. I see in you a spark, the real spark of true human being who will not pass by a wrong. I have asked myself that question many times, if it was easier to pass, because it would make my and my family life so much easier, it would changed my life to what seems like better life, but "better" is a hollow construct.

Family is the meaning of life. You'll understand it when you hold your kid for the first time. You will not understand it now. Let not work or good fight stop you from finding your partner. You know when you do. Fret not if you haven't yet, but when you do do it, but don't do it because you feel like you need to because you are 30.

Money is fleeting. Today you may have a lot, tomorrow shit may turn sour and you'll loose everything. It happened to me. You can loose literally everything you own, country, home, your shit around the house, but you can never loose your human decency, your honor. Loosing those is the only thing that you'll regret forever.

Is activism worthwhile? It is. Hopefully not full time. I've done more than most and I don't really regret it. Nothing to show for it, but one thing that's worse than anything is regret and I regret nothing.

I think that tide is turning and hopefully the world would return to the state when free people are not hounded, without start of WWIII when people appreciate their little lives so much more.
 
Hey Null. First, thank you for being honest with us. I really resonate with your position and how you can’t show weakness as your persona non grata for so many different segments of the internet.

I know your not actively looking for feedback however as a family man (something I have never brought up here before) I think the answer to number 3 (have fun) will be remedied by starting a family.

Your whole world outlook changes when you have kids, especially your concept of fun since your free time will dramatically be decreased, but you cherish it so much more.

needless to say I personally love the Farms and would do anything to see them stay, I have no idea about the stresses you go through keeping it up, even more so 9chan. Would bending the knee to copyright holders help lower the work load? Would killing the farms make you more money? Running ads? What ever you think I would support it as I don’t want to enjoy the farms knowing there is a white slave on the other end making it work.

Lastly, on your “Kiwi farms is an empire and all empires fail”

I agree with this however because the farms is so diverse and fragmented I am not afraid of it failing, individual boards may fall but I don’t see anything so big that the farms would be destroyed. Yes the culture shifts but you need to understand that there is nothing you could do to stop it, the culture shift here is slow because of your light touch when preforming moderation actions, but time makes fools of us all and the only way you could control the culture is to rule with an iron fist, but then you would still have loyal members leave for what ever reasons. But the culture will always change.

I wanted to sperg more about family in a PM but I assume you are going to be inundated with messages. I hope you can discover the answers to your questions.
 
Why don't you just be a man and nuke the site? You can't, because it's your only legacy and you're afraid you'll lose it. That's why you moan and bitch about the problem, yet fail to make an effort to fix it. You're a cuck in an abusive relationship.

Let's not be vicious, shall we? We aren't the ones who are solely responsible for keeping this place going in money, time, and sheer effort. Null is, and he's admitted he's feeling burnt out. I wouldn't be able to run this place at any level, wouldn't want to run this place at any level, and it's not even my site. It's Null's site, and if he's wanting to do something else with his life or at least have a break, so be it, we can all find another internet clubhouse, but Null has only one life to live, and he should do what's best for him, a decision only he can make.

We've always been guests in his home, what he does with it is his decision and I for one intend to respect whatever it may be.
 
I may be somewhat of a newfag compared to the older vanguard of this site. Hell, I might even be part of what you perceive as the "problem" with your website, as I spend my time more in the SJW/TDS/A&H threads than the actual lolcows. All I can say is that your website has irreversibly changed me, perhaps for the better, by exposing the dark underbelly of our institutions and how they seek to crush the common man.

Politics may be what I'm here for, but as others have noted, the creeping of politics on the Farms was inevitable given Trump's election, with every person and outlet looking for some cheap virtue signal, declaring anyone who voted the man in to be worse than Hitler himself and needs to be silenced at all costs. People needed a place to go to express themselves publicly, and it just so happened to be your little coffee shop about weirdos on the internet.

You have sacrificed much as our Supreme Leader. You have stated in the past that your association with this site has irreparably destroyed your reputation. Banks and payment processors cancel your accounts, you can't get a job. You have sacrificed it all, just so that we may have a place to point and laugh during a time where laughter is becoming increasingly taboo. For that, you have my deepest respect.

While I will be deeply saddened should the Farms go under, as I will lose a great source of entertainment and news, life will eventually go on as it always does. Those who are truly dedicated to the community will find a way to let the lols continue to flow. New sites will form under new banners. The loss of the Farms will be greatly tragic, but temporary so long as there is a passion to laugh at weirdos.

Whatever happens, Josh, know that I understand the choices you may make in the future. I wish you the best of luck in all of them, for you truly deserve it for sticking your neck in the guillotine for the sake of the community at large.
 
Let's not be vicious, shall we? We aren't the ones who are solely responsible for keeping this place going in money, time, and sheer effort. Null is, and he's admitted he's feeling burnt out. I wouldn't be able to run this place at any level, wouldn't want to run this place at any level, and it's not even my site. It's Null's site, and if he's wanting to do something else with his life or at least have a break, so be it, we can all find another internet clubhouse, but Null has only one life to live, and he should do what's best for him, a decision only he can make.

We've always been guests in his home, what he does with it is his decision and I for one intend to respect whatever it may be.
That's exactly why I suggested he just stop running the website altogether, but I guess you lack basic reading comprehension.
 
Inb4 6 hour kill stream special focusing on this thread alone.

1. Stop moving from shit hole to shit hole in Eastern Europe, pick a place to plant roots then go out and meet some fucking people.

2. Too many sub boards, the forum needs condescending again since there are only like 5 active threads under corn harvest. Eastern European’s will work for peanuts, if you gotta separate project network online if possible to find someone to work with. I doubt most Slavs even know or care who you are.

3. The farms infamy was inevitable. With increased eyes after the whole New Zealand thing, the leaks and now the riots. Yeah it sucks that most cows just go into hiding the moment a thread starts but maybe more classic cows should be encouraged. Furries, Weebs and far lefty / righty types are a dime a dozen and that will be a site wide effort to find people who are interesting to watch.
Unless something bigger comes along the farms will never be the silent watcher it once was. It’s no longer the evil hacker 4chan sick bastards and normies fear but the evil doxing website known as kiwi farms.
Some of them proactively mention the forum in some hopes of grabbing attention which results in a mention on the reviews page which is promptly forgotten about.
 
What saddens me most about this post is that you've managed this site as close to perfectly as any administrator of anything can. You've done an excellent job of enforcing rules consistently and without bias.

You didn't do anything wrong, and you didn't change significantly. However, the world has changed significantly. We're John Calhoun's beautiful ones.

The era of the lolcow is over because pretty much every young American/Westerner is a lolcow today. And if everyone is a lolcow, then no one is a lolcow.

Quick personal comment: last week, years after the thread on my sister faded into obscurity, some random woman began harassing me about it with daily death threats and the like via social media. Why? I don't know, but amidst the pandemonium going on right now, that is how some 30-something woman is choosing to spend her time.

It really drives home how purposeless our generation of young adults is, is the point.

I imagine you've already heard that a million times.



Point is, Josh, you already know what you're lacking is the same thing this fucked generation is lacking: purpose. Only in purpose do people find happiness.

The good news is you know what you want, too. Furthermore, you're driven, you're talented, and you've done unique stuff. Not many people can say that they've created and administrated a site with millions of distinct visitors. That's more than enough to make you a meritorious man in the eyes of a decent partner.


If you want to focus the entirety of your efforts into finding a woman, please do. You've earned at least that much. Pretty much all of us are already grateful for you keeping this bastion of sanity afloat in an increasingly insane world. You owe nothing to any of us. I'll always be personally thankful to you for it - my sister would be famous off a crazy memoir about me if it weren't for it.

You've done an awesome thing, and you'll succeed in any endeavor you focus your energy in. I join the chorus wishing you nothing but the absolute best - wishing you attain what you deserve.
 
Nobody can be, or should be, Dread Pirate Roberts forever.

To whatever extent you took someone else’s legacy, made it completely your own, learned a fuck of a lot along the way, had some laughs, had some tears, some yawns- you should be incredibly proud. It doesn’t fit easily onto a standard resume, but you are one formidable fucker and I am sure you have a place in the world besides all this.

if you have a transition that you desire or are just thinking of blowtorching it, there will be a next Dread Pirate Roberts.

You get to be Wesley, find Buttercup, be you and not this.

Whatever/ however you decide, best of luck to you
 
Feels man.

But you're not very approachable. You talk about not knowing people on your forum anymore but whenever someone tries, you push them away. This is like... my twelfth account over the years? Seems like there's you, a select group of legacy users, and then there's everyone else on the forum. Maybe you should find something else to do, as much as it sucks to say. Thank you for your time though. Your goals are not misplaced at all, family is the most important. And you deserve a chance at it.

The Kiwifarms severely limits your choices, for better or for worse. But your experience here is valuable. There are definitely plenty of people and organizations that want and need your skills. As long as you can keep your past on the DL, they can too. Mutual interest.
 
You definitely need to at least disconnect for good long while, now I'm not some sped who thinks just exercising and sun cures mental distress but man it sure does help sometimes. Start a garden, get a dog, find nice girl or some real life friends to hang out with and, if after you've had some time to breath, I don't think anyone who actually cares about this place will blame you for pulling the plug. Though I admit the thought of the Farms closing makes me a bit misty like the faggot I am; this account may be new but I've skulked around this place on and off for a good chunk of a decade.
God speed you glorious little bastard :semperfidelis:
 
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