Insurrection 2021

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What's going to happen on January 6th?

  • TRUMP JUNTA GOVERNMENT

    Votes: 40 10.1%
  • CHICOM BIDEN ROUNDUP

    Votes: 18 4.5%
  • BOOMERS STANDING AROUND IN Q MERCH ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING

    Votes: 340 85.4%

  • Total voters
    398
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Caught a few seconds of CBS's morning news show and it was a bunch of black "journalists" talking about capital police getting a bunch of medals from the government for bravely defending democracy against the INSURRECTION. Then Oprah's lesbian wife shook her head and said "How could any Republican vote against this?"

Give me the blue pill please so I can wake up and forget the last ten years ever happened.
Thank goodness then we wasn't alive in 1932... https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/08/the_dc_insurrection_of_1932.html

August 5, 2021

The DC Insurrection of 1932​

By Frank A. Greco

Given Santayana's warning to those who forget the past, there yet remains the problem of what to remember. Events during the summer of 1932 have frequently been remembered to promote some political cause. What follows is an outline of the incontrovertible facts that create their own perspective.
The context for these events begins with the demobilization of the WWI veterans and the problems of their re-integration into civilian society. In 1924, Congress overrode the veto of President Coolidge to enact the World War Adjusted Compensation Act, which included an insurance policy that could be redeemed for cash in 1945. President Coolidge had argued that existing programs were adequate to help the dependents of killed or disabled veterans and that the act would inevitably lead to a balloon payment in 1945, the effects of which could not be predicted in 1924. When the Depression hit, demands grew to pay the veterans immediately.

In May of 1932, about 300 veterans, led by Walter W. Waters, entered the yard of the Union Pacific Railroad in Portland, Oregon; refused to leave until they were allowed to ride in empty boxcars; and started on their way to Washington, D.C. to "lobby" for the immediate payment of their "bonuses." The news media began to follow their journey. This attention prompted local authorities and veterans' groups to help with their transportation, and by the end of May, they were on the outskirts of Washington. News coverage also inspired other veterans to join their march. Waters estimated that over 20,000 veterans, some with their wives and children, appeared within the next two weeks. Pelham Glassford, the district's chief of police, and President Hoover co-operated in accommodating the veterans by raising charitable contributions to set up their camps and kitchens. The Veterans Administration, recently organized by President Hoover, set up a field hospital for this "Bonus Army." Although some squatted in unoccupied buildings, the largest group lived on the Anacostia Flats in two camps. A large camp formed on wetlands reclaimed by the Army Corps of Engineers as a public park and was called Camp Marks after the police officer who patrolled it. A smaller one, Camp Bartlett, was on higher ground and named after the owner of the land who allowed the veterans to use it. Anacostia Park now includes both sites.

In 1932, Leon Trotsky still had eight years to live. The Workers' Ex-Servicemen League, a communist front, infiltrated the protesters, and the N.Y. Times (6/7/1932, p. 3) reported that the veterans purged those communists they could identify. The communists set up a rival camp at 14th and D streets in southwest Washington.
Initially, fortune favored the veterans. They organized a well-received parade and successfully lobbied the House to pass a bill for immediate payment of the bonus. On June 17, 1932, about 8,000 members of the Bonus Army gathered outside the Capitol as the Senate debated. The Capitol Police came armed with rifles. When Waters told the veterans that the Senate had rejected the bill, they sang "America" and returned to their camps. There was no violence.

Congress authorized the V.A. to pay travel expenses and a daily subsistence to veterans who chose to go home, and thousands did. But thousands also remained in camps scattered across Washington. Waters said he would stay until 1945 if necessary. On the morning of July 28, 1932, the Capitol Police, six days after giving notice, attempted to remove the veterans squatting in condemned buildings on Pennsylvania Avenue. Some left quietly, but others hurled bricks and rocks, hitting Glassford in the chest. In the ensuing violence, two veterans were killed, and several police officers were seriously injured. By late afternoon, the Army, led by Gen. MacArthur and his aide Maj. Eisenhower, mobilized infantry and cavalry on the Ellipse; the latter unit, commanded by Maj. Patton, included five tanks. As the Army rolled through the camps, some fleeing veterans set fires, and the troops completed the eradication as they went. The Army crossed the Anacostia River around 9:00 P.M. to disperse the veterans and their families from Camp Marks; Camp Bartlett, on private property, was untouched. Many evacuees followed the government's plan and trekked to the Maryland line, where National Guard trucks carried them into Pennsylvania.
 
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What the fuck are you on about?

Not one American man decided to stand his ground when shit mattered during the riots, or your openly corrupt and treasonous state. These all apply to the entire USA if they apply to the entirety of Europe - and to a much more severe degree. America is important as a logistical hub and industrial power - that's about it, your population is too cowardly and too unhealthy to be useful in any larger capacity. Maybe there are a relative handful of healthy, competent adults in America, but only as many as say, Spain or Poland. Your job is literally just "Give people who can actually fight guns" - every time America has pushed into Europe, it has suffered incredibly heavy losses, shameful defeats and usually just bombards their native population with propaganda to make them seem strong. American soldiers are easily the least organised and least competent part of the entire military - oftentimes failing to use their incredibly expensive equipment to it's full potential.

This isn't even news, America is the primary source of weaponry for a lot of the West, and it is critical that this remains the case. I do not trust Americans to actually keep this as the case, but fortunately, Eastern Europe exists too.



Did you learn all of your history from 4chan or something? America jumping into Europe to back up one side of a continent-wide conflict isn't the big news you think it is, infact American policies have always been to jump in when the enemy is almost defeated and try to grab as many strategic advantages as possible at the last second. America "helps" by providing a valuable service, safe industries, which are invaluable during wartime, for a price. This is profitable for the USA and strategically important - if the USA didn't provide these services, it would not be a superpower.

America is, in combat, shockingly awful. It has been this way for the entirety of American history - being isolationist, America usually depends on fighting people who are already significantly weakened, or indirectly fighting by arming and feeding it's Allies. That's not to say America isn't a strategically important nation - it's simply that it's not a valuable combatant, and direct American intervention is usually not necessary if any European nation is present.

This is why your soldiers are so unfit, America's job is to arm Europe. America delivers the goods, Europe handles the actual fighting. This is literally how NATO functions. This was true in every war America has ever fought in Europe, too, European militaries are on a shoestring and can rarely hold out for a long time, usually only stockpiling enough for a few months - with the assumption that they'll be able to buy more off the USA. Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, every American ally has this arrangement. Everybody else fights, America brings the drinks and the ammo.
Lots of people up stood up against the BLM roits. I and many of my neighbors for instance. Again seeth harder erofag. Just because Europeans are incapable of fighting there own battles doesn't mean most Americans are same way. As you openly admit without the aid of America you wouldn't be able to defend yourself's. Of course this makes sense considering erofags are cowards that like to hide behind there since of false self importance and culture. Erofags have lost the ability to defend themselves. This why you live in a nanny state that arrests people for saying bad words online and allows terrorists to set up there systems of law.
 
Lots of people up stood up against the BLM roits. I and many of my neighbors for instance. Again seeth harder erofag. Just because Europeans are incapable of fighting there own battles doesn't mean most Americans are same way. As you openly admit without the aid of America you wouldn't be able to defend yourself's. Of course this makes sense considering erofags are cowards that like to hide behind there since of false self importance and culture. Erofags have lost the ability to defend themselves. This why you live in a nanny state that arrests people for saying bad words online and allows terrorists to set up there systems of law.
What the fuck?

Americans have never done shit for dick, at all. Crossmaglen is also in the UK, so google that one before you say dumb shit.
 
I think this one may actually help with helping out Taiwan. And Japan. And India.
But we would have to help The Europeans. And there part of the problem
What the fuck?

Americans have never done shit for dick, at all. Crossmaglen is also in the UK, so google that one before you say dumb shit.
You just said we supply you all your weapons. Then proceed to say we didn't do anything despite the fact that we helped you finish off the Germans. Something you just acknowledged. Further more
The U.K is part of eroupe. And bongland isnt the only authoritarian nanny state in eroland. Italy wants to withhold voting rights for unvaccinated citizens. Again enjoy your caliphate
 
But we would have to help The Europeans. And there part of the problem

You just said we supply you all your weapons. Then proceed to say we didn't do anything despite the fact that we helped you finish off the Germans. Something you just acknowledged. Further more
The U.K is part of eroupe. And bongland isnt the only authoritarian nanny state in eroland. Italy wants to withhold voting rights for unvaccinated citizens. Again enjoy your caliphate
Yes, the USA supplies our weapons, so stop ceding territory to such disgusting treasonous cunts. You can even try to smuggle in some Russians if you're so lazy, just let them do it again.
 
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Yes, the USA supplies our weapons, so stop ceding territory to such disgusting treasonous cunts. You can even try to smuggle in some Russians if you're so lazy, just let them do it again.
What.....?
Did you have an aneurism?
Dude calm down. I know eroupe sucks and all . But its not all bad it's just
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not as awesome as America
 

For those interest, the first part of the video is going over a briefing of one of the January 6th accused, where the government is stonewalling disclosure of evidence, yet does not want it to be counted against a defendant's right to a speedy trial. Hey, why not make sure the Biden administration violates every single part of the Bill of Rights. No doubt a judge in DC will rubberstamp this.
 
What.....?
Did you have an aneurism?
Dude calm down. I know eroupe sucks and all . But its not all bad it's justView attachment 2419576 not as awesome as America
Imagine giving weapons to the Taliban cause you can't be fucked with handling your own politics.

It's roughly what I had in mind for the Western world, but you guys managed to fuck that up yet again.

Couldn't you try to do that for say, Australia? I think Australia could do with some of those rifles and humvees right about now.
 
Seems like the Capitol riot people have another issue to deal with, one of the main lawyers came down with the coof and is laid up in the hospital on a vent now. Given that "medical treatment" seems to be just vent and forget I suspect this guy is soon to be dead. This seems to be compounding the issue of the Federal Prosecutors refusing to submit evidence for 8 months, keeping the arrested rioters in limbo in the court system, A DIRECT REASON THIS COUNTRY DECLARED INDEPENDENCE.

NYTimes Article

Go-to Lawyer for Capitol Riot Defendants Disappears​

John Pierce has been a combative advocate for those accused of participating in the Jan. 6 attack, but he’s missed court appearances for a week.


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John Pierce is representing 17 clients charged with attacking the Capitol on Jan. 6.Credit...Pool photo by Nam Y. Huh
By Alan Feuer
Aug. 31, 2021Updated 1:55 p.m. ET
The mysterious disappearance of the lawyer John Pierce began last Tuesday, prosecutors say, when he missed a hearing for one of the many cases where he is representing a defendant in the Capitol riot investigation. The young associate who took his place said that Mr. Pierce had a “conflict.” At the time, no one seemed to give it much mind.
But in the days that followed, Mr. Pierce — who is defending more cases connected to the riot than any other lawyer — missed additional hearings and the reasons for his absence started changing.
On Wednesday, his associate told a judge in one case that Mr. Pierce had gotten Covid-19 and was in the hospital on a ventilator — but only after telling a prosecutor in another case that Mr. Pierce had been in a car accident. That same evening, a different associate told a reporter that Mr. Pierce had in fact been hospitalized, but was getting care for “dehydration and exhaustion.”
Finally, on Monday — after Mr. Pierce had still failed to emerge — the government got involved. Federal prosecutors issued letters to several judges in 17 Capitol riot cases, informing them that no one in the Justice Department had heard from Mr. Pierce in a week and that “multiple” phone numbers for his law firm appeared to have been disconnected.
His criminal cases had come to a “standstill,” the prosecutors said, endangering the rights of his clients. If Mr. Pierce did not surface soon, they added, something — though it was not clear what — would have to be done.
The New York Times tried to reach Mr. Pierce several times by text and phone in recent days, but he did not respond.
Mr. Pierce’s unexplained absence was only the latest twist in his outsized role in defending those accused of participating in the Capitol attack. His clients — among them members of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers militia — have stood out not only for their number, but also for the scorched-earth battle that he has vowed to wage on their behalf.
A self-described pro-Trump populist, Mr. Pierce has promised, for example, to force the government to give him video footage of the Capitol for several days before and after Jan. 6, and has said he will demand information about every police officer working at the building that day. He has also vowed to subpoena hostile witnesses like Speaker Nancy Pelosi, ostensibly to learn what she may have known about security at the Capitol before the attack.
Without citing evidence, Mr. Pierce has said he intends to implicate the F.B.I. and the intelligence community by showing that the riot was something like a grand act of entrapment or an inside job. He has often talked about his cases with a conspiratorial zeal, painting himself as something like a lonely legal warrior out to save his clients from an overreaching government.

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Mr. Pierce has suggested that his clients cannot be held accountable for their role in the Capitol siege because they were following official U.S. policy.Credit...Win Mcnamee/Getty Images
“I’m like Gerard Butler in ‘300,’” Mr. Pierce said in an interview before dropping out of sight, comparing himself to the action star who played a Spartan king. “I’m in the hot gates at Thermopylae, holding the pass against the million-man Persian army.”
While the government has not yet weighed in on the merits on his claims, prosecutors did express concern in their letters filed on Monday about the young associate, Ryan Joseph Marshall, who has been standing in for Mr. Pierce at the hearings he has missed.
For one thing, Mr. Marshall is not a licensed lawyer, prosecutors said, and has taken actions on behalf of clients “that he is not permitted” to take. Moreover, they went on, it remains unclear if and when Mr. Marshall will be able to get his law license given that he is under indictment in two criminal cases accusing him of corruption, theft and fraud in Pennsylvania.
Mr. Pierce’s situation is not his first encounter with personal and professional setbacks. Last year, his law firm nearly collapsed in a swirl of debts and resignations. Then his most prominent client, Kyle Rittenhouse, the young man charged with murder at a racial justice protest in Wisconsin last year, fired him in a highly public spat that included allegations that a charity arranged for the defense had engaged in financial improprieties.
His work in the Capitol cases began just after the attack when he took several members of the far-right nationalist group the Proud Boys as clients. He has also been hired by L. Brent Bozell IV, the son of a prominent conservative commentator, as well as by a Florida pastor and a Minnesota pub worker.
In recent weeks, however, at least two clients have fired Mr. Pierce, complaining that he seemed unresponsive and appeared at times to be unversed in the details of their cases. Last week, the wife of yet another client, Kenneth Harrelson, a member of the Oath Keepers from Florida, sent a letter to her friends and associates, complaining that her husband was having “issues” getting Mr. Pierce “to do his job.”
Such complaints have come atop concerns that the sheer number of Mr. Pierce’s clients has exposed him to accusations of conflict of interest. He is, for example, representing both James Cusick Jr., the Florida pastor, and Mr. Cusick’s son Casey, who are charged with breaching the Capitol with another of his clients, David J. Lesperance, a member of the Cusicks’ church.
In a separate case, Mr. Pierce has been hired by another father-and-son pair, Kevin and Nathaniel Tuck, two former Florida police officers who have been charged in an indictment with a Florida Proud Boy he also represents.
Almost eight months after a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol, two separate processes have been taking place in Washington. In one, the Justice Department has been filing charges resulting in nearly 600 criminal cases that have only begun to delve into the violence of Jan. 6. In another, conservatives have been waging a war of narratives, playing down the attack as the work of mere tourists or calling it a false-flag operation by the F.B.I.
Mr. Pierce has placed himself at the nexus of these efforts. While he has filed motions and — before his absence — appeared at hearings like any other lawyer, he has also maintained a steady presence on social media and right-wing media outlets, questioning the “Stasi-like tactics” of the F.B.I., teasing purported revelations about the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt inside the Capitol and attacking the investigation as political persecution.


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Mr. Pierce previously represented Kyle Rittenhouse, a teenager charged with murder during a protest against racial injustice. Mr. Rittenhouse fired Mr. Pierce after a public dispute.Credit...Pool photo by Nam Y. Huh
Perhaps the best example of this is his plan to raise a so-called public authority defense for some of his clients, arguing that they cannot be held accountable for the Capitol attack because they were following official U.S. policy.
But Mr. Pierce will most likely not point to the role that former President Donald J. Trump had in whipping up supporters to storm the building. Instead, he has said that he believes that F.B.I. operatives and intelligence personnel, working undercover, incited the crowd to violence. And he has urged other defense lawyers to help him find proof.
All of that, of course, can only come to pass if he returns to court — and the government seems worried that might never happen.
“Unfortunately, it seems that Mr. Pierce may be hospitalized and unable to communicate,” prosecutors wrote on Monday, “and it is unclear when Mr. Pierce will recover.”
 
Imagine giving weapons to the Taliban cause you can't be fucked with handling your own politics.

It's roughly what I had in mind for the Western world, but you guys managed to fuck that up yet again.

Couldn't you try to do that for say, Australia? I think Australia could do with some of those rifles and humvees right about now.
If we did that for Australia. they would regift them to the Chinese and muslims.
 
he is representing a defendant in the Capitol riot investigation
A self-described pro-Trump populist
“I’m like Gerard Butler in ‘300,’” Mr. Pierce said in an interview before dropping out of sight, comparing himself to the action star who played a Spartan king. “I’m in the hot gates at Thermopylae, holding the pass against the million-man Persian army.”
While the government has not yet weighed in on the merits on his claims
Mr. Pierce previously represented Kyle Rittenhouse


Mr. Pierce had gotten Covid-19 and was in the hospital on a ventilator
It's a fucking victory lap against the "Great Satan". Despicable. I'd even go so far as to call it deplorable.
 
Mr. Pierce previously represented Kyle Rittenhouse, a teenager charged with murder during a protest against racial injustice. Mr. Rittenhouse fired Mr. Pierce after a public dispute.Credit...Pool photo by Nam Y. Huh
Perhaps the best example of this is his plan to raise a so-called public authority defense for some of his clients, arguing that they cannot be held accountable for the Capitol attack because they were following official U.S. policy.



This dude. There is a simple, straightforward, statutory argument that would help like 90% of the people charged. This is just dumb.

Re: disco issues - yea the government is up against it since many of the people charged are actually hitting the max on the misdemeanors. Even the felony stuff, if you didn't hit a cop you're still only looking at 12-18 months, max.
 
So I guess congress has subpoenaed gook moot and a bunch of messages are going to read from /pol at the commission. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Kiwifarms got a subpoena also at some point for this thread. Not that there is any organizational stuff on here or /pol but you know they are gonna make it seem like this was all organized at these places when the reality of is we are all just shitposters watching a happening.

This is going to be sort of funny on one hand and on the other very disturbing. I don't think anyone is gonna understand half the shit being said because if you dont partake in the community, you wont get it.

"We wuz kangz"

"You will never be a woman"

"this glows"

"BREAK THE DOOR DOWN IN MINECRAFT"
 
Yep, they are just going to keep throwing these guys in jail until they stop believing in conspiracy theories.


IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday ordered a prominent participant in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol to return to jail after he was caught accessing the internet to watch false conspiracy theories about the presidential election.

U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly said that Doug Jensen, 42, of Des Moines, Iowa, had violated the strict conditions that were set when he released Jensen from jail on July 13, including prohibitions on accessing the internet and using a cellphone.

Kelly ordered marshals at the federal courthouse in Des Moines, where Jensen attended Thursday's hearing, to immediately take him into custody as he awaits trial.

Prosecutors had moved to revoke Jensen’s pretrial release on Aug. 19, days after a federal officer found Jensen in his garage using an iPhone to watch news from Rumble, a streaming platform popular with conservatives.

Jensen acknowledged that he had earlier watched two days of the cyber symposium sponsored by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, an ally of former President Donald Trump who used the event to push false theories that the presidential election's outcome was changed by Chinese hackers.

Kelly noted that he had released Jensen from jail on July 13 after Jensen claimed he had an awakening behind bars and realized the QAnon conspiracy theory to which he adhered was a “pack of lies.” The judge said he put in place the strict conditions, including the internet ban, because Jensen had previously spent years following online conspiracies and acknowledged he had become a “true believer” and “digital soldier.”

Kelly said it was significant that Jensen's violations were caught during the first unannounced visit to his home by pretrial services officers.

“It’s now clear that he has not experienced a transformation and that he continues to seek out those conspiracy theories that led to his dangerous conduct on Jan. 6," Kelly said. “I don't see any reason to believe that he has had the wake-up call that he needs.”

Kelly said it was unlikely that Jensen would be able to follow any other conditions of release barring internet use and that he had lost confidence in Jensen's wife to serve as his third-party custodian. Prosecutors contended that she had facilitated his violations by leaving the phone on when she left for work.

Jensen's attorney, Christopher Davis, had asked the court to give his client another chance, likening Jensen's internet use to an addiction. He argued that Jensen had complied with other release conditions, including staying home on electronic monitoring and avoiding drug use, and that his violations in no way endangered public safety.

He said his client acknowledged the violations but said that it was “Orwellian” for the government to seek to jail a man who was sitting in his garage listening to the news.

Jensen was among the first people to enter the Capitol during the Jan. 6 attack, crawling through a broken window. On Thursday, prosecutors cited new video evidence to claim he was also among the last to leave over an hour later, scuffling with officers on his way out.

He told investigators he positioned himself as one of the riot leaders because he was wearing a shirt promoting QAnon and he wanted the theory to get the credit. Jensen was widely photographed during the attack.

Jensen had a knife in his pocket when he led a crowd of people toward Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman, who was by himself and had only a baton. The crowd chased Goodman up a flight of stairs toward the Senate chamber as Jensen ignored Goodman's orders to stop and put his hands up.

Before his July release, Jensen had spent six months in jail after he was arrested Jan. 8. He faces the prospect of years in prison, and lawyers on both sides said Thursday they were unsure if the case could be resolved in a plea or would go to trial.

Jensen is charged with seven counts, including aggravated assault, obstruction of a law enforcement officer during a civil disorder, unlawfully entering a restricted building while carrying a dangerous weapon and disorderly conduct.

Another Jan. 6 defendant who subscribed to the QAnon conspiracy theory has agreed to plead guilty, according to court documents filed Thursday.

Jacob Chansley, the Arizona man who sported face paint, no shirt and a furry hat with horns during the riot, is scheduled to plead guilty on Friday.

The charge to which he intends to plead guilty hasn’t been publicly revealed. He faces felony charges of civil disorder and obstructing an official proceeding, as well as four misdemeanor counts.

Chansley, who called himself “QAnon Shaman,” has since repudiated the QAnon movement and asked that there be no more references to his past affiliations with the movement, his lawyer, Albert Watkins, said Thursday.
 
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