Insurrection 2021

[Random Internet Person]

You tell me, meatbags.

Politics Today: Why do Republicans fear the insurrection inquiry?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...ing-accident/ar-AAO4HbP?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

WASHINGTON — House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has again tried to impede the House investigation into the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol by warning telecommunications and social media giants of harsh retribution if they cooperate with the inquiry.

Asserting that Republicans “will not forget” their complying with the request for potentially incriminating information and material relating to the riot on Capitol Hill, McCarthy said: “Attempts to strong-arm private companies to turn over individuals’ private data would put every American with a phone or computer in the crosshairs of a surveillance state run by Democrat politicians.”

McCarthy pointed to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House committee chairmen Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) as the culprits, insisting: “If these companies comply with the Democrat order to turn over private information, they are in violation of federal law,” without specifying which laws would be involved. House subpoenas could be issued requiring compliance.

The Republican threat was a transparent effort to impede the House investigation into the insurrection that former president Donald Trump encouraged on the morning of Jan. 6 at a "Save America" rally on the Ellipse, a park south of the White House. Trump told the audience that he would join them in the march to Capitol Hill, but instead he returned to the mansion and watched on television as the mayhem ensued outside and inside the Capitol.

The House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack on Monday called on 35 private companies to retain phone and other records related to the Jan.6 attack for reference when Congress returns from its summer recess and begins the inquiry.

Earlier this year, McCarthy led the effort to expel Rep. Liz Cheney from the House Republican leadership conference. Cheney, daughter of former vice president Richard Cheney, was appointed to the insurrection investigation committee. At the same time, Pelosi rejected McCarthy’s nomination of ultraconservative Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio — who has since admitted to having talked to Trump via telephone on Jan. 6 — to serve on the special committee.


It’s an open secret by now that the House Republicans are determined to protect Trump, who has sharply castigated the special Jan. 6 inquiry as he labors to sell his false allegation that the 2020 presidential election was “rigged” against him.

The former president has continued to peddle the notion that the election was stolen from him despite extensive review of state elections officials across the country verifying their results.

Trump has compounded his assault on the American elections process by encouraging changes in state elections procedures, spreading what has come to be widely labeled “The Big Lie” of a stolen presidency last November.

It is to hoped that the insurrection inquiry that Republicans so obviously fear will burst the bubble of that Big Lie, and put an end to Trump’s dream of a return in 2024 to the Oval Office he has already sufficiently tarnished in his four years of inept occupancy.

(Jules Witcover’s latest book is “The American Vice Presidency: From Irrelevance to Power,” published by Smithsonian Books. You can respond to this column at juleswitcover@comcast.net.)

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

daughter of former vice president Richard Cheney

No one ever called him that and you know it. Is this like the "white/Black" thing or can we just not say DICK anymore?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Capitol Police Just Sued Trump Supporters In Goofiest Legal Case In Recent History - Revolver

Last week, seven officers of the US Capitol Police quietly filed one of the goofiest civil lawsuits in American history.

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[LightDragonman1]

According to several media outlets, 9/11 was one of the things that has resulted in the insurrection.

PolitiFact - How the 9/11 attacks helped shape the modern misinformation, conspiracy theory industry

Outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, a New Jersey man held up his hand for a camera as he told a local TV reporter about

www.politifact.com

A New 'FRONTLINE' Special Draws A Line From 9/11 To Jan. 6 Insurrection

The film investigates the “division, polarization, lack of trust and faith in government” that followed 9/11.

www.wgbh.org

How 9/11 led the US to forever wars, eroded rights – and insurrection

The legal carte blanche signed days after the 2001 attacks is still used to authorise military action – just one way US society has been shaped, or corroded, by its backlash to terror

www.theguardian.com

 

[Random Internet Person]

According to several media outlets, 9/11 was one of the things that has resulted in the insurrection.

PolitiFact - How the 9/11 attacks helped shape the modern misinformation, conspiracy theory industry

Outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, a New Jersey man held up his hand for a camera as he told a local TV reporter about

www.politifact.com

A New 'FRONTLINE' Special Draws A Line From 9/11 To Jan. 6 Insurrection

The film investigates the “division, polarization, lack of trust and faith in government” that followed 9/11.

www.wgbh.org

How 9/11 led the US to forever wars, eroded rights – and insurrection

The legal carte blanche signed days after the 2001 attacks is still used to authorise military action – just one way US society has been shaped, or corroded, by its backlash to terror

www.theguardian.com

Another one.

Ex-President Bush slams US violent extremists as ‘children of the same foul spirit’ as 9/11 terrorists

“We have seen growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders but from violence that gathers within,” Bush said Saturday in Shanksville, Pennsylvania., at a ceremony to remember the hijacking and crash of United Flight 93, which was commandeered by Muslim terrorists.

“There is little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home,” Bush said.

“But in their disdain for pluralism, in their disregard for human life, in their determination to defile national symbols, they are children of the same foul spirit and it is our continuing duty to confront them.”


Bush’s 10-minute speech — before an audience that included Vice President Kamala Harris and former Vice President Dick Cheney — compared what he called the unity of Americans after 9/11 with the disunity of the present day.

“In the weeks and months following the 9/11 attacks, I was proud to lead an amazing, resilient, united people,” Bush said.

“When it comes to the unity of America, those days seem distant from our own.

“Malign forces at work in our common life that turn every disagreement into an argument and every argument into a clash of cultures. So much of our politics has become a naked appeal to anger, fear and resentment. That leaves us worried about our nation and our future together.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...o-jacksonville-state/ar-AAOlDg6?ocid=msedgntp

Former President George W. Bush used the occasion of a 9/11 speech to take a thinly-veiled slam at the Jan. 6 insurrectionists and other U.S. political extremists.

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[Grand Wizard Wakka]

When putting your feet on Pelosi's desk is worse than all the death and destruction and ruined lives Bush is responsible for...

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Another one.

Ex-President Bush slams US violent extremists as ‘children of the sam…

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They should try to find another excuse because blaming this on 9/11 will be like blaming Gamergate. That'll became cliche.

 

[Random Internet Person]

When putting your feet on Pelosi's desk is worse than all the death and destruction and ruined lives Bush is responsible for...

That's the thing about true believers. 1/6 was just hearing the words "We hate you MAGA people" and responding with "Trustme, the feeling of hate is MORE than mutual".

They should try to find another excuse because blaming this on 9/11 will be like blaming Gamergate. That'll became cliche.

Isn't that the case already with people who aren't leftists or conspiracy nuts?

 

[Salubrious]

Never before seen footage of the most damaging day to our Democracy in 160 years.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Never before seen footage of the most damaging day to our Democracy in 160 years.

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Outside of the window, looks pretty mellow.

Opinions | It’s dangerous when we allow the losers to rewrite history

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On Sept. 18 Trump supporters once again descended on the nation’s capital — albeit this time in far smaller numbers — for “Justice for J6,” a gathering in support of those facing criminal charges for their participation in the January 6 insurrection. About 450 people assembled and police arrested four individuals.

Though a relatively quiet event, the falsehoods animating the demonstration — that the 2020 election was rigged and that the insurrection was a nonviolent protest — continue to permeate GOP politics. In a recent CNN poll, 59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said, "'believing that Donald Trump won the 2020 election’ was very or somewhat important to what being a Republican meant to them.”

Yet, the true picture of January 6 is far darker: the event marked the first time the Capitol Building has been invaded by armed enemies since 1814 and the first time in all of American history that the peaceful transfer of executive power has been violently disrupted. Five people were killed in the attack and four Capitol Police officers have since taken their own lives. All without a single shred of evidence to support the claims driving this violence.

Tellingly, one insurgent carried a Confederate flag into the building — a symbolic breach that did not even occur during the Civil War. “A new ‘lost cause’ had stormed into the U.S. Capitol flying the flag of the original Confederate Lost Cause,” observed historian David Blight. Indeed, in the wake of January 6, it seems as though Trump and his supporters are intent on following in the footsteps of the Confederates who lost the Civil War, but largely won the battle to construct a false version of history better suited to their purposes.

Immediately following the Confederate States of America’s defeat, former political and military leaders gave speeches and wrote memoirs that told a false, more flattering narrative of the conflict. Rather than waging a war to protect the institution of slavery, Confederates explained that they had been defending states’ rights from a tyrannical federal government and had fought a defensive war against an invading Northern army. Being outgunned and outmanned, their chances had been doomed from the start — but they had fought honorably in defense of their homeland and there was no shame in eventually capitulating.

And so, the myth of the Lost Cause was born.

This purposeful rewriting of recent history drove a political, economic and cultural movement that used a nostalgic yearning for the Old South to create as close to a slave society as was possible after the 13th Amendment banned the practice of slavery. The Lost Cause and its glorification of White dominance justified the re-empowerment of Confederate leaders. Alexander Stephens, for instance, the former vice president of the Confederacy, received a presidential pardon from Andrew Johnson just a few months after the war’s end and was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.

It also legitimized White supremacist policies and violence, reversing the civil rights gains African Americans achieved during the initial phases of Reconstruction. Indeed, at the same time as Lost Cause proponents were articulating their version of history, they were also disenfranchising Black voters, instigating sharecropping and the convict lease system, erecting Jim Crow segregation and unleashing a campaign of White supremacist violence that raped, maimed and killed thousands of people. The two enterprises went hand in hand. “The success of the teachings of the Lost Cause led to the nation’s abandoning even its half-hearted effort to protect African Americans and bring them into the United States as equal citizens,” writes Historian Alan T. Nolan.

Even after the wartime generation had passed, artists, filmmakers, novelists, historians and politicians continued to espouse the Lost Cause narrative, insisting that the Confederacy had fought for a righteous cause and the fallen had died honorable deaths. Perhaps most tellingly, the early 1900s witnessed a boom in the erection of Confederate statues and monuments — vastly exceeding those raised during the postwar decades.

Of course, we need not search too far for evidence of the Lost Cause’s cultural and ideological purchase in our own time. The rebel flag is still displayed proudly everywhere from buildings to bumper stickers. Schools and streets bear the names of Confederate leaders. And Americans have fought violently, occasionally with fatal results, to defend Confederate monuments.

The consequences are profound. The Lost Cause has entrenched a deep denial of the horrors of slavery into a large segment of American society and accordingly hamstrung efforts to address the roots of racial injustice and reckon with the wide-ranging destruction forged by White supremacy. One need only look to the recent right-wing hysteria over critical race theory and school curriculums for evidence that the Lost Cause continues to pervade and pervert important conversations about racism in America.

So far, the January 6 lost cause has not achieved anywhere near this level of impact. But there are alarming trend lines.

The effort to shape the narrative around the insurrection began even before the siege itself had ended. In a video asking the rioters to go home, Trump doubled down on his baseless claims of a stolen election — claims he continues to repeat nine months later. Some Republican senators, like Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), maintained their groundless objections to certifying the election mere hours after hiding in their offices from the mob.

And in the days and months that followed, Republicans have worked tirelessly to reshape the violent, anti-democratic invasion into a peaceful protest. “There was no insurrection and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie,” Republican Rep. Andrew S. Clyde of Georgia told a House Oversight Committee. “If you didn’t know that TV footage was a video from January the sixth, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.” Some have gone so far as to describe those in custody as “political prisoners.”

A majority of Republican senators then successfully blocked the formation of an independent commission to investigate the insurrection. Some of their counterparts in the House opposed a measure to award Congressional Gold Medals to the officers on duty on January 6. Even those Republicans who denounced the insurrection are still minimizing the event and its implications. “You know, I condemned the breach. I condemned the violence,” said Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, “but to say there were thousands of armed insurrectionists breaching the Capitol intent on overthrowing the government is just simply false narrative … By and large, it was a peaceful protest.”

These efforts have successfully shaped public opinion on the right. A recent poll revealed that over half of Trump supporters describe the events of January 6 as “defending freedom” or “patriotism.” Nearly 80 percent of Republicans believe that the election was fraudulent. And Republicans have attempted to undermine other elections with false accusations of fraud, sometimes before the elections even occur, as was the case with the recent California recall.

True, they have not overthrown any elections or secured the removal of charges for any insurgents. And they receive significant pushback. But it is still early days in the battle over January 6’s memory. The 2022 midterms and 2024 presidential election will probably see even more baseless accusations of fraud. If the Republicans win back control of Congress, many question whether a Democratic presidential candidate even stands a chance of being certified the victor, regardless of how many more electoral votes they may win.

The struggle over Civil War memory reminds us of the injustices that run rampant when we allow the losers to rewrite history. Trump supporters may lack the “coherent ideology” and “geographical monopoly” of the Confederates, notes historian Caroline Janney, but “their arguments are animated by some of the same tactics that allowed the Lost Cause to thrive for more than 150 years.”

We can’t afford to let January 6 become the new Lost Cause.

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[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Never before seen footage of the most damaging day to our Democracy in 160 years.

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I know KF has hosted footage of stuff like Mosque shootings before, but this is too far.

 

[Random Internet Person]

And now things are going to shit. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1444290959479431173.html

 

[LeChampion1992]

When putting your feet on Pelosi's desk is worse than all the death and destruction and ruined lives Bush is responsible for...

Only in the eyes of liberal America does bombing poor brown civilians seem justified but white conservatives larping is the most dangerous thing ever.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Only in the eyes of liberal America does bombing poor brown civilians seem justified but white conservatives larping is the most dangerous thing ever.

And…it seems they’re winning. And the only future fight will be over what the utopia will look like.

 

[LeChampion1992]

And…it seems they’re winning. And the only future fight will be over what the utopia will look like.

I think they're going to be the ones in the proverbial french style revolution. Except the liberal left will be the ones being beheaded as the masses just join the far right en masse Because the lefts shit the bed so much.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I think they're going to be the ones in the proverbial french style revolution. Except the liberal left will be the ones being beheaded as the masses just join the far right en masse Because the lefts shit the bed so much.

There’s just one issue: the progressives have done such a massive job poisoning the well that nobody will want to associate with the right. If anything, it’ll be a battle of those aiming for progressive utopia, something like Demolition Man, and the people who want whatever Alex Jones says the UN and China have cooked up. Or just China moving to have everyone and everything under Beijing’s banner. The advocates for all those will be the ones at odds while MAGA may be fighting to survive, figuratively and maybe even literally.

 

[LeChampion1992]

There’s just one issue: the progressives have done such a massive job poisoning the well that nobody will want to associate with the right. If anything, it’ll be a battle of those aiming for progressive utopia, something like Demolition Man, and the people who want whatever Alex Jones says the UN and China have cooked up. Or just China moving to have everyone and everything under Beijing’s banner. The advocates for all those will be the ones at odds while MAGA may be fighting to survive, figuratively and maybe even literally.

That's the thing the progressive left isn't fighting for their Survival. The right wing is and that's what makes the right more dangerous. There is nothing more dangerous then a cornered beast. The left can mobilize and have mass actions and manufacture consent. The left doesn't understand that if the right sees that they have no political solution. Well terrorism has been very very very effective. In fact the left is pushing domestic terrorism to such an paranoid extreme that long term I see domestic terrorism actually destroying the left and the country.

To put this into context if the right wing aka conservative Inc is going to be we stand against transphobia and believe in CRT in schools within 5 years what's to stop someone who has right wing views from finding other ways to get heard. If the left listened to it's own language they would see that they're the oppressors In the situation and they're going to reap what they sow.

What I'm seeing is within a decade the lefts fear of domestic terrorism will go from the big fear to we will have lost the war and america will balls deep in some sort of years of lead/troubles situation in the future horizon.

This is all assuming poorer red states don't see the writing on the wall and begin to foment secession movements that actually begin and in that case America could break up like the USSR or worse yet break up like Yugoslavia.

 

[Random Internet Person]

https://t.co/1PlgmYMGnB?amp=1

Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen, who testified before Congress on Tuesday about her former employer, will be meeting with House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, CNN reported, citing three sources.

The House select committee could hear from Haugen as early as Thursday, according to the network. The lawmakers on the committee are tasked with investigating the events surrounding the Jan. 6 insurrection, in which supporters of former President Trump stormed the Capitol in an effort to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election win.

CNN reported that the committee wants to know from Haugen how the platform was used to organize and encourage the violent protest.


Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) appeared to signal earlier this week that Haugen would be speaking with the committee, tweeting on Monday, “According to this Facebook whistleblower, shutting down the civic integrity team and turning off election misinformation tools contributed to the Jan 6 insurrection.“

“The Select Committee will need to hear from her, and get internal info from Facebook to flesh out their role.”


The Hill has reached out to the Jan. 6 committee for comment.

Haugen last month leaked internal documents to The Wall Street Journal that included revelations Facebook knew that the Instagram platform was harmful to its younger users, allegations Facebook did not do enough to stop the spread of false coronavirus-related rhetoric and claims the platform was not doing enough to combat drug and human trafficking being conducted on the site.

Speaking before Congress on Tuesday, Haugen blasted Facebook’s use of artificial intelligence to catch hate speech and misinformation.

“The reality is that we've seen from repeated documents within my disclosures, is that Facebook's AI systems only catch a very tiny minority of offending content,” the former Facebook produce manager said.

She also claimed that issues could not be dealt with adequately because of the company being “understaffed.”


Following the hearing, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in a Facebook post that “We care deeply about issues like safety, well-being and mental health. It's difficult to see coverage that misrepresents our work and our motives.”

• Facebook slows new product rollout in wake of whistleblower blowback...
• House Jan. 6 panel can't find Trump aide to serve him subpoena

He claimed that the “good work” that Facebook was doing was getting “mischaracterized,” claiming, “At the most basic level, I think most of us just don't recognize the false picture of the company that is being painted.”

“Many of the claims don't make any sense. If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create an industry-leading research program to understand these important issues in the first place? If we didn't care about fighting harmful content, then why would we employ so many more people dedicated to this than any other company in our space -- even ones larger than us?” he said.

“If we wanted to hide our results, why would we have established an industry-leading standard for transparency and reporting on what we're doing? And if social media were as responsible for polarizing society as some people claim, then why are we seeing polarization increase in the US while it stays flat or declines in many countries with just as heavy use of social media around the world?” he further questioned.

https://thehill.com/policy/technolo...tleblower-to-meet-with-jan-6-committee-report (Archive isn't really cooperating)

 

[Yamma Damma]

https://t.co/1PlgmYMGnB?amp=1

https://thehill.com/policy/technolo...tleblower-to-meet-with-jan-6-committee-report (Archive isn't really cooperating)

The way this "whistleblower" is being treated by the government should feel familiar and anger the shit out of you. But also make you laugh because look at her BRAND NEW twitter account.

Wowee a former faceberg worker JUST NOW got a twatter account and VERIFIED within a few days after creation despite her jabberjawing about one of the Sillicon Elite? What are the odds of that???

This bitch is a plant. They did the same thing with that chinkcom plant a few months ago only this time she's real...ly blowing something that shaped like a whistle but isn't a whistle.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I saw this article who mentionned a good point about double standards about the Jan 6. insurrection and the shooter in Texas.

Bail for a school shooter? While Jan. 6 defendants languish in prison as danger to the republic?

Is the criminal justice system getting cattywampus? You decide. A school shooter who shot up an Arlington, Texas classroom Wednesday, injuring four people, has been let out by some judge on bail. The incident created mas...

www.americanthinker.com

October 8, 2021

Bail for a school shooter? While Jan. 6 defendants languish in prison as danger to the republic?​

By Monica Showalter

Is the criminal justice system getting cattywampus? You decide.
A school shooter who shot up an Arlington, Texas classroom Wednesday, injuring four people, has been let out by some judge on bail.

The incident created mass terror and chaos. A teacher was shot in the back, the bullet reportedly missing a critical artery by an inch. The apparently targeted student was shot three times and is now in the hospital in a medically induced coma. A random high school girl was apparently grazed by a bullet or otherwise injured and hospitalized. A pregnant woman fleeing the melee reportedly fell and was injured. And all across the school, there was terror, complete with desperate parents at the school gates as police agency after police agency rushed to the scene. The kids, of course, the ones who didn't do the shooting, will likely now have to live with metal detectors and other prison-style appurtenances. Lucky them....

....Meanwhile, little old ladies, assorted members of the public, and a goofus in a shaman suit complete with a horned hat remain imprisoned, some in solitary, eight months after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, as a mortal danger to the republic. Yes, some should be punished, but this is disproportionate and the time for that has come and gone. A school shooter gets let out on bail, while the Capitol rioters, charged with "parading" continue to languish in prison? What's wrong with this picture?