Insurrection 2021

[Mewtwo_Rain]

You don't actually break the law if you don't know you have HIV during consensual sex in any state. In Wisconsin if you rape someone and have HIV it's an extra charge but if you knew you had it or not is taken into consideration during sentencing. Oh the things you can learn in five minutes on the internet.

You're talking about intent which was never my argument. I'm talking about they either don't want to know they spread it to someone which cleanses their conscious if they did, or they did have intent and don't want laws that punish people for KNOWINGLY spreading HIV which is what I stated earlier. Knowing = spread with intent. Not knowing= no intent to spread. You can't not know and have intent to spread. I can't give you a disease I don't have.

The whole reason those laws were passed is because of some people as I recall knowing they had HIV and purposely spreading it to as many people as he could. Which still doesn't explain how those laws discriminate against HIV infectees unless there is an epidemic of them purposely spreading said disease. Otherwise why wouldn't they get tested if they can't be held accountable, which again goes back to my point, it's about irresponsibility. They don't want the knowledge of being responsible for a spread or being detested by partners they spread it with without getting tested.

So then why would they avoid getting tested if they can't face legal responsibility? It doesn't make sense.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

You're talking about intent which was never my argument. I'm talking about they either don't want to know they spread it to someone which cleanses their conscious if they did, or they did have intent and don't want laws that punish people for KNOWINGLY spreading HIV which is what I stated earlier. Knowing = spread with intent. Not knowing= no intent to spread. You can't not know and have intent to spread. I can't give you a disease I don't have.

The whole reason those laws were passed is because of some people as I recall knowing they had HIV and purposely spreading it to as many people as he could. Which still doesn't explain how those laws discriminate against HIV infectees unless there is an epidemic of them purposely spreading said disease. Otherwise why wouldn't they get tested if they can't be held accountable, which again goes back to my point, it's about irresponsibility. They don't want the knowledge of being responsible for a spread or being detested by partners they spread it with without getting tested.

So then why would they avoid getting tested if they can't face legal responsibility? It doesn't make sense.

If you don't want HIV it means you hate people with HIV.

It's the same logic the left has with everything right now.

 

[All becomes gunt]

"TV people said mask good, so mask good."

Knowing how often the "experts" (I'm including the number crunch wonks in there with the doctors) get it wrong with everything else and not questioning this so much is really strange to me. Holes bigger than the virus in most masks, much less people wearing them incorrectly and multiple times and they think they actually help.

Maybe they would help if it was an airborne virus, but it's spread by surface contact and if an idiot doesn't cover their mouth when they sneeze it's still gonna get shot right through that mask.

The first big issue is that one of your mucus membranes ( eyes ) is still open to direct exposure. Also there has being 0 and i mean 0 trials that found that masks even limit the spread of this Virus. Now you would ask yourself but why then all this happens and why in some countries its even mandatory.
This is nothing but smoke and mirrors for enforcing measures of population control by using the virus as fear porn to make the populace more docile and used to such measures and strip of basic liberties due to "emergencies". The current state of whats to come definitely doesnt want desperate people to do desperate things, if your eyes are open to the economic state of affairs.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

"TV people said mask good, so mask good."

Knowing how often the "experts" (I'm including the number crunch wonks in there with the doctors) get it wrong with everything else and not questioning this so much is really strange to me. Holes bigger than the virus in most masks, much less people wearing them incorrectly and multiple times and they think they actually help.

Maybe they would help if it was an airborne virus, but it's spread by surface contact and if an idiot doesn't cover their mouth when they sneeze it's still gonna get shot right through that mask.

The first big issue is that one of your mucus membranes ( eyes ) is still open to direct exposure. Also there has being 0 and i mean 0 trials that found that masks even limit the spread of this Virus. Now you would ask yourself but why then all this happens and why in some countries its even mandatory.
This is nothing but smoke and mirrors for enforcing measures of population control by using the virus as fear porn to make the populace more docile and used to such measures and strip of basic liberties due to "emergencies". The current state of whats to come definitely doesnt want desperate people to do desperate things, if your eyes are open to the economic state of affairs.

By both of your autistic arguments, the flu should go through Japan like a fucking raging wildfire every year. Instead, Japan, proportionately, has fewer cases of influenza than America by a factor of ten- on a bad year. Compare the data for Japan and America for the 2018-2019 flu season if you don't believe me.

 

[All becomes gunt]

By both of your autistic arguments, the flu should go through Japan like a fucking raging wildfire every year.

We are not talking about the flu here. And your comparison is also way off since the flu is way different.

 

[Taco]

If you don't want HIV it means you hate people with HIV.

It's the same logic the left has with everything right now.

It's about what works and what doesn't and trying to understand what prevents the spread of HIV and what doesn't. My entire point was it's not worth getting outraged over something that is only meant to provide information when there's 10,000 other things going on actually worth being mad about for everyone regardless of political affiliation. If states don't want to change their laws this isn't going to make them. If it provide information that makes them say "hey look of we provide more access to testing and more public health information we can lower the spread of HIV" that's not a bad thing. Pick you battles.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

We are not talking about the flu here. And your comparison is also way off since the flu is way different.

Explain to me how two viruses that spread the same way can't be slowed down using the same methods.

 

[Random Internet Person]

No one has mentioned just how much of a doomer this guy is? Wasn't Obama's whole schtick (aside from being half-black) being able to put a positive spin on really bad shit?

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This shit is real
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Blame Califorina
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We’re in trouble. We’re in deep shit. Not only will the masks and lockdowns keep going on, but the Cultural Revolution, pursuit of pet projects, and the transformation of America into a progressive utopia is coming, and it seems all we can do is sit at home in quarantine and watch it all unfold.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

It's about what works and what doesn't and trying to understand what prevents the spread of HIV and what doesn't. My entire point was it's not worth getting outraged over something that is only meant to provide information when there's 10,000 other things going on actually worth being mad about for everyone regardless of political affiliation. If states don't want to change their laws this isn't going to make them. If it provide information that makes them say "hey look of we provide more access to testing and more public health information we can lower the spread of HIV" that's not a bad thing. Pick you battles.

How is claiming "it's discrimination" and "unscientific" that laws pushed to prevent the spread do as they are intended and by actual fact do not discriminate other than protect the innocent or make people take responsibility.

You're saying "states won't change your laws." how do you know this? All people need to hear is the discrimination buzzword or bigotry and people bend over backwards. Also even then it just seems like a waste of tax money to do this when the outcome should be somewhat obvious. Laws that punish people for bad intentions do their job, people with bad intentions claiming they don't have them get called out as liars when doing so with intent.

I'm just saying it makes no sense. I'm not outraged, I'm baffled how it passes as anything but a bunch of dumb shit.

 

[All becomes gunt]

Explain to me how two viruses that spread the same way can't be slowed down using the same methods.

Except they dont you retard. I dont think you even read what you link you fucking embarassment. Most viruses are like apples and oranges. What works for one isnt necessarily and most times isnt going to, work for the other. Trying to blanket this with what works for "something else" is hugely unscientific and a disgrace to any doctor/researcher worth his white robe. Besides for masks to even be effective for the viruses they do cover you need proper sanitation protocol in wearing handling and disposing of it. Google isnt going to save you, you are out of your element.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Okay I'll bite.

I believe the election is rigged. I'm absolutely certain of it. I believe this, not because of the mountains of circumstantial evidence that occurred during the election and were roundly deboonked within minutes of being posted online (sure guys), but because of everything that happened leading up to it.

So Trump was filling stadiums and Biden couldn't pull 12 people. So what, Coronavirus, whatever. Sure. Yeah. Ignore that.

I can just look at the facts easily available to me online. There was no wellspring of support for Biden. Were his voters afraid of catching a computer virus too? No? Then why was r/joebiden a fucking wasteland? Where did his grassroots supporters gather? How come when Joe Biden's handlers post a youtube video it gets thousands of views and Trump gets millions? Where were his supporters hiding out? Trump supporters were such a huge base that when they were politically censored by Reddit they went and made an offshoot website that is currently ranked 442 in the United States after just a few months.

Where is the Biden equivalent? r/politics? Yeah fucking right!

And don't tell me oh reddit this oh reddit that. Reddit is THE mass media tool for dissemination of political propaganda in the world today. It fucking sucks but it's true.

So when CCP Reddit couldn't even fake a grassroots support a fraction of what Trump's supporters were doing organically it became incredibly obvious what the outcome of election day would be.

All political common sense dictates that an energized and enthusiastic base is more valuable and effective than anger and hatred from the opposition. Joe Biden had NO SUPPORT. He had NO ENERGY. He had NO SUPPORTERS. And yet he received more votes than any candidate in US Elections History. Yeah okay sure. This doesn't pass the smell test and if you try to argue otherwise you're a fucking idiot.

Further compounding the madness was the COVID-19 frog-march, which was clearly scripted to effect maximum damage to Trump in the election. A cynical person would argue that was the entire point. So when state governments started changing their election rules; switching to unauthenticated balloting systems with no physical chain of custody, using voting machines that are well-known to be insecure (hint: how to tell if an election is rigged: does it use voting machines?), and altering procedures in the middle of counting, it became OBVIOUS. It became 110,000% clear that the fix was in. If you watched the events of the last six month unfold and think the 2020 election was not rigged, YOU ARE A F U C K I N G I D I O T.

We now return to our normal programming of Hollywood Hulk Hogan breathlessly repeating the same things over and over again.

Devils advocate: Remember those articles I posted in A&H about Older voters supporting Biden who supported Trump in 2016, polling locations in rural Iowa being dormant on election day, and depressed White turnout in the rustbelt? Yeah.

Beyond that with the failure of his obamacare repeal and replace efforts, and then his caving in on the 2018 Omnibus bill, the economy was the last main point he had for why he should be re-elected besides being the incumbent--

--And then Corona hit nullifying his incumbent advantage and killing his economy (to which he told the FED to unironicly just print money to delay the inevitible for a few months).


Anyway... if you still think the fix is in, I don't see how you can't blame Trump for not preparing for this; There were plently claims of shady activity in the 2018 midterms, especially in boward county Florida, but he ultimately did nothing about it.

 

[Frank_Jaeger]

New California Law Reduces Penalty for Knowingly Exposing Someone to HIV
STD Rates in California Reach the Highest Levels in 30 Years

 

[All becomes gunt]

New California Law Reduces Penalty for Knowingly Exposing Someone to HIV
STD Rates in California Reach the Highest Levels in 30 Years

Where were you when the main export of California became aids cripples.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Except they dont you retard. I dont think you even read what you link you fucking embarassment. Most viruses are like apples and oranges. What works for one isnt necessarily and most times isnt going to, work for the other. Trying to blanket this with what works for "something else" is hugely unscientific and a disgrace to any doctor/researcher worth his white robe. Besides for masks to even be effective for the viruses they do cover you need proper sanitation protocol in wearing handling and disposing of it. Google isnt going to save you, you are out of your element.

You are an idiot. If a virus spreads through water droplets exhaled from the nose and mouth (the respiratory route), masks designed to capture those water droplets severely reduces the risk of transmission. You do not need a completely different mask for each variety of respiratory-transmitted ailment or whatever crackhouse theory you're on about.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

New California Law Reduces Penalty for Knowingly Exposing Someone to HIV
STD Rates in California Reach the Highest Levels in 30 Years

Very relevant video clip reply to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ZOxyj1OUk

 

[All becomes gunt]

You are an idiot. If a virus spreads through water droplets exhaled from the nose and mouth (the respiratory route), masks designed to capture those water droplets severely reduces the risk of transmission. You do not need a completely different mask for each variety of respiratory-transmitted ailment or whatever crackhouse theory you're on about.

Damn you are a very special case. Okay i'll bite, first of all thats not the only way this virus spreads and also your mask does little to block that. As i said you have one of your mucus membranes wide open to exposure and while you can argue that it limits the droplets going through ( keyword: limits ) for the roughly 4 hours you can have it on before you need to change it, you'd also need to properly dispose of it and of course wear it and handle it in order for what you said to take any effect. Even taking proper use into account however there still has being 0 studies that came to the conclusion that everyday and even clinical use of the mask ( i guess you are talking about the disposable triple sheet one ) even limits the spread of this particular virus.

 

[Smolrolls]

Needs more salt from Trump.

I wanted to farm the salt, not drink it

Actually am I going crazy? We we're blaming China for this pandemic now people are relieved that "big orange man bad" won't set the world on fire on his way out. I mean pretty sure Trump couldn't do anything given how the senate, most of the government, mainstream media, etc. kept stopping him/indoctrinating people from doing anything. Pretty sure Biden, Harris and his democrat masters are the kinds who would set this country on fire for losing, look back 4 years ago/4 years later with Antifa and Jogger lives matter running around like she-baboons. Trump's an idiot, I mean the last thing he does as president is to take down small websites like Kiwifarms compare to the Rasputin-shekel rubbing lizardmen that are trying to control our subconscious, how we think , and get mobs to come after us for thinking the wrong thing and indoctrinating children to become nothing more than wage slaves to consoom and be happy storm troopers. Black lives matter we're active 4 years ago, they became active again this year, now they'll be active whenever a president candidate comes that "we the people" don't approve of because he/she said the wrong mean thing. "Its all in the past you have to let it go" except these self-righteous people caused this mess, even when they are in videos saying "The flu kills more people then the Coronavirus", and they get away with this because "That was in the past, Trump didn't do anything in the present, now we look to the future".

As a farmer said in this thread I think: "Here's to 4 more years of political stagnation". After all, raise your hands if your for giving free healthcare coverage to undocumented migrants.

And seeing all these "Christian" trump supporters going manic that they lost makes me sick. At least we got left-leaning/democrat kiwifarmers like Hulk Hogan who wont smite me for voting for the wrong person. This is so tiresome, I want to draw.

 

[Terrifik]

I wanted to farm the salt, not drink it

Salt pretty much gone were just tring to get betting odds for a Boogaloo , what acceleration thing happens & we only have about 3 day american to new year 1 day other country for 2021.
So far mitch killing $2000 but if dem in house can counter with taking off election but give 230 & $2000 then null wins bet for worst president killing the internet because mad at internet/twitter & Corporate media for post that these facts are desputied on all his statements. Null pretty turn off the site when its signed & gives site out as a download .
larger terms trump lost bidden won no court want to give trump win put in history book for causing it & back to norm - 230 being a talking point now & nswf bill in back & null payment bill might pass if no one & including karens not care about.

 

[CheezzyMach]

And this is why your side won't win. If your reaction to someone being tired about politics is "REEE the beatings will continue until morale improves!", people will start to hate your ass. It's why people hated the Moral Majority, it's why people hate SJWs ("Everything is political!" ring any bells?), and, if that's the road you want to walk down, it's why people are going to hate whatever name your faction wants to call itself.

I love how it only took one lost election for the Right to turn into everything they accused the Left of being for 4 years.

 

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Pretty sure he barely even tried to and gave up at the first bit of resistance.

Yes, Obama made as much effort to close Gitmo as Trump did to build a wall.