Insurrection 2021

[Gustav Schuchardt]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/26/trump-william-barr-doj-jeffrey-rosen
https://archive.vn/wip/JjTVi

Mounting concerns that Trump will try to squeeze favors from Rosen, who became Barr’s deputy AG in early 2019 without previous DoJ experience, stem partly from Trump’s post-election anger at Barr, despite being arguably his strongest cabinet ally in the run-up to the November election

Jee, ya think? It's not like Barr really left to spend more time with his family.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Democrat electoral fraud. The rigging is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of data science, most of the plots will go over a typical poster's head.

 

[A Pox]

Hmmmm you /pol/tard fucking retards fucking dumbass fucking boomer cunts. Can't you understand that everybody hates Trump, despite him being up 11 million votes this election compared to 2016, and that Joe Biden is the most popular presidential candidate in history, despite him drawing 4 digit viewership.

Fucking frog cultists getting scammed by orange baby diaper don. I bet y'all watch Faux News too.

Spoiler

is this the reddit tier trolling that will get me lots of internet stickers?

 

[FunPosting101]

2016 didn't have a global pandemic.

By the time the election rolled around people were more upset about continued lockdowns then they were about a disease only slightly more dangerous than the seasonal flu.

 

[Taco]

I disagree that people wanted a return to the normalcy of the Obama years, Trump wouldn't have won in 2016 were that the case, moreover Trump's standing for an end to lockdowns and rioting mobs did a better job of appealing to a return to normal in general then anything Biden advocated for between dementia-fueled powernaps, and Biden only "got" a few million more of that 30 million then Trump did, and, again, the votes that actually handed him the election all occurred in very specific counties in the precise swing states that he needed to win, while Biden simultaneously under-performed Hillary Clinton elsewhere.

Biden's win is a fraudulent one and the Biden/Harris presidency is illegitimate as far as I'm concerned.

America keeps getting noticably worse so people look to the past with rose colored glasses thinking it was better because the guy before the last guy was better and never stop to realize he was one of the people who made it worse if he was on their "team."

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

2016 didn't have a global pandemic.

We had a nigger in the White House....even worse.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

By the time the election rolled around people were more upset about continued lockdowns then they were about a disease only slightly more dangerous than the seasonal flu.

Influenza's death total is about 34k in the US, from 2018-2019 data. The projection for this year's is anywhere between 24k-62k.

Covid as of right now is 330k. So yeah, anywhere from about 9 times to five times as deadly; synonymous with "only slightly."

America keeps getting noticably worse so people look to the past with rose colored glasses thinking it was better because the guy before the last guy was better and never stop to realize he was one of the people who made it worse if he was on their "team."

I don't know how so many people pining for the great yesterday are going to deal with the fact that they can no longer bank on the efforts of their parents and grandparents to turn the US into a global hegemon. The thought of having to actually try in school, try in your professional life, and work hard to improve yourself and your country - now that's fucking scary.

Why can't I continue to suckle off of economic domination that I had no hand in bringing about? Why do I have to compete with other countries? Why can't I make future generations pay for my lavish, early retirement? Why don't we just nuke other countries' pig iron factories and coal mines?

 

[FunPosting101]

We had a leftist politician from Chicago, the most corrupt city in the country, who pretended to be some sort of lefty messiah or some shit while continuing some of the worst policies of his predecessor while not really improving much of anything to make up for it; in the White House....even worse.

Fixed for me.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

By the time the election rolled around people were more upset about continued lockdowns then they were about a disease only slightly more dangerous than the seasonal flu.

The CCP virus was also used as an excuse for greatly expanding mail-in ballots and greatly reducing security. E.g. getting rid of signature checks on mail-in ballots

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/10/1...equire-signature-matching-on-mail-in-ballots/
https://archive.vn/wip/ryTgp

Election rules in multiple key battleground states permit voters to submit mail-in and absentee ballots without having their signatures checked to ensure the vote is valid.

Five states that have historically been competitive in presidential races — North Carolina, Iowa, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire — do not require signature-matching for mailed voting forms.

In some cases, state officials have explicitly codified that rule. In August, Karen Bell, the executive director of the North Carolina State Board of Elections, wrote in a memo to all local county boards that a voter’s siagnture “shall not be compared with the voter’s signature on file because this is not required by North Carolina law.”

“County boards shall accept the voter’s signature on the container-return envelope if it appears to be made by the voter,” she continued, “meaning the signature on the envelope appears to be the name of the voter and not some other person.”

“Absent clear evidence to the contrary,” she added, “the county board shall presume that the voter’s signature is that of the voter, even if the signature is illegible.”

In other cases, signature-match rules have been struck down by jurists. Judges in New Hampshire and Iowa in recent years both struck down provisions of state laws mandating signature-match policies for absentee ballots.

In New Hampshire in 2018, a judge struck down a state law ordering election officials to match a voter’s signature on the application for a mail-in ballot with the voter’s signature on an affidavit accompanying the ballot itself.

“[T]he current process for rejecting voters due to a signature mismatch fails to guarantee basic fairness,” the ruling states. “Such discretion [in signature verification] becomes constitutionally intolerable once other factors are taken into account: the natural variations in voters’ signatures combined with the absence of training and functional standards on handwriting analysis, and the lack of any review process or compliance measures.”

The ruling suggested election officials could institute a policy of reaching out to voters regarding disputed ballots in order to give them a chance to rectify the errors.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...rules-will-no-longer-match-voters-signatures/
https://archive.vn/JMXH9

Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar (D) issued guidance to counties that local election officials cannot perform on-the-spot signature analysis. Effectively, this means that ballots cannot be rejected because an election official believes the voter’s signature on a ballot envelope does not match the signature on file.

Boockvar also allowed for ballots to be returned up to three days after election day, against the wishes of the state legislature

https://www.pennlive.com/elections/...rived-after-polls-closed-on-election-day.html
https://archive.vn/9ihFv

About 10,000 late-arriving ballots were received in Pennsylvania’s three-day grace period after the polls closed, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar said Tuesday night.

It’s the state’s first report of how many mail-in ballots arrived between the closing of the polls at 8 p.m. Nov. 3 and 5 p.m. Friday, the deadline for late ballots. Citing delays in mail delivery by the U.S. Postal Service, Gov. Tom Wolf’s administration sought court approval to count all ballots arriving up to three days after Election Day. The state Supreme Court approved that request, to the objection of Republican lawmakers.

All of which came in handy when the Democrats realized they needed to shift into high gear for their electoral fraud at about 4am.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Hillary Clinton, one of the most universally reviled and despised politicians of the modern era, beat Trump in the popular vote by about three million votes. Trump's margin of victory in the swing states that sealed the deal was somewhere around 80k. And the democrats had a fairly anemic turnout, especially compared to Obama.

Joe Biden has callbacks to the Obama admin, not drumpf, and the fact that he's not the most universally reviled and despised politician of the modern era. Of course the figurative corpse would outperform clinton - a literal corpse would outperform her.

Hillary Clinton was banking heavily on the hype around "muh First Female President" and she also did a lot to tie herself to both Obama and Bill Clinton, who were popular presidents (Bill moreso than Obama) while Trump was a lot more of an unknown and you had a lot of people worried he'd be used as a Trojan Horse for the GOP establishment of neocons and traditionalists.

Having Pence as his VP reinforced a lot of those fears in 2016 but then it became obvious Pence was an empty suit filling a seat and was a consolation prize for the trads and fundies who would've stayed home after Cruz lost. Of course, this was back when Ted Cruz was the Puritan Bandito and not the "based Zodiac Killer" he became after the 2018 midterms.

Really, COVID-19 fucked everything up.

I do think there's a good possibility of fraud in several key states thanks to state and city-level DNC groups being shady as fuck but unlike the Q-Tards, I also know that even if you took fraud out of the equation, it was going to be a 50/50 shot either way and whoever won would eke out an extremely narrow victory.

Trump would only win in a landslide if the pandemic didn't happen. With the pandemic, it was going to be a victory under the thinnest of margins and the fight was going to be very much an uphill battle.

Expecting a blowout landslide victory for Trump in the wake of COVID-19 is unrealistic Q shit and even a dumb retarded sperg like me would find it optimistic at best and insane at worst.

That said, the only way I can see Biden winning with the margins he did was through fraud. The national DNC probably didn't even know about it, this was all state level. A bunch of stand alone complexes and the federal-level Dems happily taking the win.

@Secret Asshole can probably explain it better than I can.

I can see Biden winning a narrow victory on his own thanks to Corona throwing everyone a gargantuan curveball, but he's probably the one candidate who's even less charismatic than Hillary and Kamala Harris is probably the one person in the modern DNC more hated than Hillary, Pelosi, and Schumer combined.

At least The Squad has their legion of dangerhairs, trannies, and beardos willing to stan for them.

 

[byuu]

By the time the election rolled around people were more upset about continued lockdowns then they were about a disease only slightly more dangerous than the seasonal flu.

What difference does that make? People still want to go back to a time before all this shit.

I'm not saying it's rational, that this is all Trump's fault, or a Democrat would have handled it better but it makes people look to promises of stability. Trump sold himself as an outsider to shake up the system, which worked in 2016 because people wanted that Change that Obama failed to deliver. Now in 2020 people are sick of changes like having to wear a mask and not being able to visit their favourite restaurant.

 

[FunPosting101]

What difference does that make?

Because Biden's pro-lockdown stance hurt him, Trump's anti-lockdown stance helped him, and anyone who wanted to not wear a mask and to be able to visit their favorite restaurants again likely voted republican and not democrat in this election.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Hillary Clinton was banking heavily on the hype around "muh First Female President" and she also did a lot to tie herself to both Obama and Bill Clinton, who were popular presidents (Bill moreso than Obama) while Trump was a lot more of an unknown and you had a lot of people worried he'd be used as a Trojan Horse for the GOP establishment of neocons and traditionalists.

Having Pence as his VP reinforced a lot of those fears in 2016 but then it became obvious Pence was an empty suit filling a seat and was a consolation prize for the trads and fundies who would've stayed home after Cruz lost. Of course, this was back when Ted Cruz was the Puritan Bandito and not the "based Zodiac Killer" he became after the 2018 midterms.

Really, COVID-19 fucked everything up.

I do think there's a good possibility of fraud in several key states thanks to state and city-level DNC groups being shady as fuck but unlike the Q-Tards, I also know that even if you took fraud out of the equation, it was going to be a 50/50 shot either way and whoever won would eke out an extremely narrow victory.

Trump would only win in a landslide if the pandemic didn't happen. With the pandemic, it was going to be a victory under the thinnest of margins and the fight was going to be very much an uphill battle.

Expecting a blowout landslide victory for Trump in the wake of COVID-19 is unrealistic Q shit and even a dumb retarded sperg like me would find it optimistic at best and insane at worst.

That said, the only way I can see Biden winning with the margins he did was through fraud. The national DNC probably didn't even know about it, this was all state level. A bunch of stand alone complexes and the federal-level Dems happily taking the win.

@Secret Asshole can probably explain it better than I can.

I can see Biden winning a narrow victory on his own thanks to Corona throwing everyone a gargantuan curveball, but he's probably the one candidate who's even less charismatic than Hillary and Kamala Harris is probably the one person in the modern DNC more hated than Hillary, Pelosi, and Schumer combined.

At least The Squad has their legion of dangerhairs, trannies, and beardos willing to stan for them.

Or it turns out that Trump is incredibly popular within certain enclaves and incredibly unpopular outside of them, and if you never leave those enclaves, you would have absolutely no idea of just how unpopular he is. There is little doubt that without the pandemic, he would have been the favorite to win reelection - but had he handled the pandemic better, even just on a symbolic level, he absolutely could have narrowed the margins. And even as the favorite, he was no longer a dark horse.

Spoiler: biden was also smart enough to not collapse on camera

Clinton's muh female president shit mattered a lot less than the people in the trump echo chamber assumed - the demographic most enthused by that was young progressives, who do not fucking vote. Paying homages to Obama and Bill don't matter as much when you, yourself, have a million skeletons and are widely regarded as corrupt. 2016 was also six years out from the 2010 census, which means that the EC on the whole favors the GOP (same as this election).

Clinton got creamed in 2008 by a no-name senator from Illinois who had barely done anything at all, despite the fact that she had an enormous political machine plumping for her. She was a weak candidate, and will be regarded as one of the worst the Dems have ever put forward. And she still beat Trump in the popular vote by 3M - he is not universally or net-positive on popularity.

Biden is better than Clinton because he hasn't made near as many enemies and "return to sleepy normalcy" has a storied history of being a successful electoral strategy in the US after times of turmoil. Within the machine, Biden is just as reviled as Obama and the rest; when you get out and deal with the average population, it's a lot less so. I know plenty of people who refused to vote for Clinton who were more than fine voting for Biden - and plenty more people than that who don't like Biden but refuse to have a second Trump term. Trump's only a messiah from the train's pews.

I don't know how to explain this - 2020 demographics are not 2010 demographics. There has been a massive shift of industry and population to the cities. The cities overwhelmingly go for the dems. Republicans need to win the suburbs and make minor inroads to cities in order to have any chance of victory in nationwide or statewide contests, because the exurbs and rural areas are rapidly losing population to early death and brain drain. Even smaller towns are experiencing this to some degree - and the flight from the cities post-covid will probably see the suburbs swell even more. And what population did the republicans do poorly with in the 2018 midterms?

At this point, believing in widescale fraud is a religious effort. The door is open to evidential proof that doesn't hinge entirely on hearsay or fall apart at literally the first explanation. That PA database thing back there is leagues above some security stream footage cut to ribbons, because it's raw data that has been signed off by government agencies, which anyone can run analysis on. If the Trump team had been submitting arguments and briefs based on stuff like that, it would be worth of a lot less ridicule than pages upon pages of conjecture.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Because Biden's pro-lockdown stance hurt him,

You don't get it. Biden being pro lockdown, pro-China, pro-immigration, pro closing down your factory, moving the jobs to Mexico and letting the goods come in tariff-free, anti-fracking/anti-gun is the reason he won record number of votes in a few select blue cities in The Deer Hunter country.

It's some sort of 4D chess us mere mortals cannot understand. Clearly, people in Pennsylvania want to be locked down, unemployed, and disarmed by a Manchurian candidate. If only some previous political candidate had worked this out they could have won.

Honestly, I'm surprised he didn't come out and say he supported the right of Chinese corps to sell opiates. Maybe he figured what with all those pictures of him sniffing other people's daughters he'd already done everything he needed to do to get votes in the rustbelt even though it seems like that's the sort of thing that would get your ass kicked in a working-class community.

And the weird thing is this poll shows that most people don't like that

https://www.thecut.com/2019/12/joe-biden-poll-hair-sniffing-the-cut-yougov.html
https://archive.vn/GHC5B

A whopping 77 percent of those polled think it is completely unacceptable for a male political candidate to come up behind a woman to sniff her hair. And despite the narrative that older Americans are more likely to excuse behavior like this, 85 percent of Baby Boomers said they think it is completely unacceptable. That’s 15 percent more than millennials.

But I guess that poll must be wrong because he ended up winning a record number of votes in a few key blue cities even though he didn't do all that well everywhere else and his campaign had more lids than jam factory. A jam factory that probably got moved closed in Pennsylvania and moved to China or Mexico thanks to neoliberal policies.

 

[Techpriest]

>using thecut.com as a reliable polling source and trying to say that this totally proves Biden cheated

This is crazier than the Russiagate stuff by several levels of magnitude

 

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Having only the same shit as the last campaign is worse than nothing.

Especially when he delivered on absolutely none of it (instead, Paul Ryan's tax cuts).

Because Biden's pro-lockdown stance hurt him, Trump's anti-lockdown stance helped him, and anyone who wanted to not wear a mask and to be able to visit their favorite restaurants again likely voted republican and not democrat in this election.

lol... @FunPosting101's highly credible source

https://twitter.com/TweetWordz/status/1341580500109045760

 

[Simpadoo]

Influenza's death total is about 34k in the US, from 2018-2019 data. The projection for this year's is anywhere between 24k-62k.

Covid as of right now is 330k. So yeah, anywhere from about 9 times to five times as deadly; synonymous with "only slightly."

They don’t count the influenza deaths in the same way as the Ching Chong flu deaths. Even Birx admitted that they started using a very liberal definition. You can’t really compare both due to this shit show of data manipulation done by the CDC but 1)The office of Social Security payments have not decreased significantly from last year and 2)the John Hopkins study on macro data of total deaths proves that there was no significant effect from the Wuhan Lung AIDS.

It is a real disease but not one that justified this economic seppuku.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

They don’t count the influenza deaths in the same way as the Ching Chong flu deaths. Even Birx admitted that they started using a very liberal definition. You can’t really compare both due to this shit show of data manipulation done by the CDC but 1)The office of Social Security payments have not decreased significantly from last year and 2)the John Hopkins study on macro data of total deaths proves that there was no significant effect from the Wuhan Lung AIDS.

It is a real disease but not one that justified this economic seppuku.

You could cut the number of total COVID deaths in the US in half and it's now three times to four point five times as deadly.
Social Security tends to pay backwards, and if someone doesn't report a death to the Soc Sec offices, the payments will keep getting deposited. With funeral homes and government offices operating on much smaller staff / hours due to the pandemic, there's going to be a significant delay on reality getting reflected.

Even so, the suggestion that the coof is only barely worse than a flu is a dumb statement. The logic of the statement suggests that we should have closed the entire country down when ebola came to town, because ebola is significantly more deadly than the flu if you get it. It just doesn't spread much at all in the first world. Covid is barely deadly to young people, but to the old and those with health conditions it is way more deadly; and it spreads like wildfire compared to ebola and the flu.

Shutting down restaurants might be retarded, but requiring masks when you go into a store makes sense. The "no worse than the flu" argument suggests that you should cough your way through a Macy's with gusto. Mind, I know a good number of people employed in health care that think the total shutdowns are ridiculous and the picking-winners part is plainly kleptocracy in action. I don't really take qualms with this; Walmart and Amazon and the megabanks have no doubt funneled a lot of money into advocating for these pointless lockdowns.

highly credible source

What's suspicious about an 87% VEP turnout? Certainly, at least half of Biden's votes are completely fake despite aligning SSNs with each ballot. Really, Trump probably won 239M votes!

 

[Revo]

LOL, typical Killstream listener.

lol typical godwinson/ppp listener.
You, ralph's a-logs are in the same level of exceptionalism with the fans of ralph.

 

[TheClappening]

I have to say, the fact that 2016 was a corrupt liar versus a buffoonish orange man while 2020 was a dementia-addled child-sniffer versus the ridiculous Cheeto in Chief will never cease to be gay and retarded.

 

[Maradontia]

tl;dr "i dont have proof biden won fairly"

The Electoral College voted and Biden got 306. That's a fair win.

I disagree that people wanted a return to the normalcy of the Obama years, Trump wouldn't have won in 2016 were that the case, moreover Trump's standing for an end to lockdowns and rioting mobs did a better job of appealing to a return to normal in general then anything Biden advocated for between dementia-fueled powernaps, and Biden only "got" a few million more of that 30 million then Trump did, and, again, the votes that actually handed him the election all occurred in very specific counties in the precise swing states that he needed to win, while Biden simultaneously under-performed Hillary Clinton elsewhere.

Biden's win is a fraudulent one and the Biden/Harris presidency is illegitimate as far as I'm concerned.

Luckily, no one cares about your opinion. You can wake up and scream "Fraud" every day for the next 4 years of the Biden presidency and it won't even matter.