Is Bullying even bad?

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Hoo-whee... and what about "cyber bullying"?
 
But suppose that much physical bullying is just teaching kids to fight. Why is that bad?
Much of physical bullying is several kids ganging on another or older kids picking on younger and weaker kids. You can't really learn shit when the odds are completely stacked against you (except maybe that life is unfair).
 
Seriously.

Isn't bullying just society's way of saying "quit doing that shit?"
The problem is that what lolcows and SJWs call "bullying" is just people telling the cold hard truth and them not liking to accept it - someone like Chris Chan would probably think that telling him to quit blowing his tugboat money on Sonic games and Legos is "bullying" for example, while basement-dwelling internet SJWs will claim that calling an actual pedophile like "Laurelai" a pedophile is "cyberbullying".

Likewise, the series of so-called "anti-bullying" legislations that public schools have been enacting are really just "pro-LGBT" bills, so the term has lost its meaning; same with "trolling", since "trolls" is apparently the new SJW meme which now just refers to anyone on Twitter who says anything offensive to their fragile little minds, which means pretty much anything truthful.

Bullying is the best thing that could happen to some of these freaks, since it's obvious that parenting and giving friendly advice hasn't saved them, but of course they'll just play the victim and claim "bullying" is the reason their lives are so utterly fucked up, and not their own self-destructive behaviors.
 
Often bullying is done for no good reason, though. Like, to random people for completely inane traits like having a weird name or coming from a different country. Even making fun of someone for being a total and utter dysfunctional sperg is wrong if they honestly can't help it (and presumably try to behave normally), and bullying can cause people enough distress to make their lives seem like hell (especially at younger ages where bullying is more common).
 
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depends. really depends on the context, the age of the people, how much harm is done, physical violence level, etc

a kid stealing another kid's lunch money is classic and shitty. kid fighting back and losing... that's shitty too.

or do you mean... internet bullies?
 

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I think if your being an unlikable, hatable, punchable person (sore winner, acting like your above people) or your acting autistic (not following social norms, embarrassing yourself) it's not bad and you just need to learn why people are being mean to you and quit doing that shit

If your just being a normal person and your being bullied for no reason, punch that motherfucker in the mouth and watch him/her bleed.
 
Well I dunno about you guys, but my way of telling people to quit doing some shit is to simply say "Hey, quit doing that shit, fucko".

A lot of people throw around arguments that it's actually a good thing overall since it discourages negative behaviour, but that's demonstratably not the case. See: Every single lolcow. All bullied, none of them changed. In fact, being ostracised actually makes them even more negative.

Also worth considering, I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a bully who wanted to change their social group for the better by weeding out negative people. In every case they pick some flimsy justification that essentially boils down to "I don't like this about them and I can't handle it".

Emotional bullying is also a real thing, consider non-physical domestic abuse for example.
 
Bullying is bad, just like Sexual Harassment is bad.

The problem is, as @StraightShooter pointed out, the assorted special snowflakes of the last couple decades have expanded the definition of both to encompass any behavior at all that doesn't validate their feelings regardless of context.

Calling someone a name once because they're sperging out next to you while you are trying to work isn't bullying, and anyone who collapses into a coma upon having it happen to them is way too fragile or immature and needs psych help.

Repeatedly calling someone a name, day after day after day, and specifically targeting them after they've taken reasonable steps to stay away from you and make it clear they just want to be left alone? Following them to places they went just to stay clear of you? That is bullying and someone who breaks down under that kind of pressure is not a wuss, or pansy or too much of a sperg, that's a normal human reaction to being victimized for no good reason.

But much like how every false rape accusation hurts every real one, every SJW who cries bullying over the "oppressive" color of someone's shirt or the way some guy is "manspreading" next to them hurts the case of people who have been bullied because they get painted with the same brush: "Toughen up"

I was mildly bullied in High School and find it almost impossible to add my two cents to any discussion about the pros/cons of bullying because I find myself buried under a ton of that same "You must have been doing something to deserve it" thinking, and it's just not worth the fight to plea my case wasn't me being a crybaby, but genuine bullying. (As in the bullies were walking into class from the hallway just to smack me in the back of the head, and walk out laughing. Or to dump soda on my classwork, WHILE I was working on it, and the teacher who saw it all said it was my fault, I was encouraging it by having a "thin skin" )

FWIW, Bullying didn't destroy me as a person, but, considering I have a lot of problems socializing to this day, I can tell you, it didn't HELP either, so I don't know what reality the "Everyone needs to be bullied to grow a little character" people who think it's a good thing are living in, and I'll leave it at that.

College isn't for everyone, and neither is getting bullied. Some people were forced to grow up fast because one or more of their parents died young, that doesn't mean such a scenario is de facto good, and we should be wishing it upon others, because it could also just as easily wreck you.
 
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