Is communism inherently better at conservatism than conservatism? - Communists doing something right?

To answer that question I think we have to ask ourselves what Conservativism entails;

A critical stance toward cultural cancers (the "Trans rights" movement and white guilt for example)
The act of pushing for that critical stance among the masses
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The ideological annihilation of all public thought which questions the narrative

The first 2 are ideal, because it gives the sensible man a vehicle to make the facts known while also having some room for error. Humans make mistakes, and even though the liberal policies being pushed today are for the most part completely retarded, we still probably are doing a lot of things wrong. This also protects people's rights to free speech and free thought, something that is important to the basis of a republic. Being prone to subversion is a small price to pay for the miracle of independent thought.

The last one is the inevitable end goal of a Communist society (that thankfully hasn't come about yet.)
To have absolute conservativism as a state mandate would require the state to have absolute power over the people, as anything unorthodox would have to be corrected, or in a perfect communist society, anything counter to the narrative fed to you would be completely impossible. You wouldn't even be able to fathom it. Giving the state such power also gives the state the power to destroy the values that we identify as conservativism at the roots.

Basically, troons can't be disgusting if they don't exist, and if we surrender the power to define and enforce Conservativism to the government we might end up as troons without even knowing it. The only way we can build a truly Conservative society is a public consensus reached through personal liberty, despite how impossible such a consensus may be these days.
 
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Communism isn't one thing, what you are looking at is simply the fruits of the good ol' tankies from the cold war that would hijack trains and assault banks that were, on average, conservative by today standards by virtue of just being more manly in general, but back then they would be the equivalent of your average leftard. It goes to show how much the left wing movement has mutate over the years to this almost eldritch mass.
 
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Kung Pow said:
Communism isn't one thing, what you are looking at is simply the fruits of the good ol' tankies from the cold war that would hijack trains and assault banks that were, on average, conservative by today standards by virtue of just being more manly in general, but back then they would be the equivalent of your average leftard. It goes to show how much the left wing movement has mutate over the years to this almost eldritch mass.
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It was not something that "communism" acommplsihed, but the actual reactonary fondantions that both russia and china had pretty much since forever, and it never quite died during the revolutions
 
The problem is "Conservatism" is not a coherent political philosophy. Its more of a mindset based around the part of any given population that is naturally skeptical to change. The old Commies at the end of the Soviet Union were "Conservative" because they attempted to preserve the status quo. Communism itself being a revolutionary ideology cannot be "Conservative" except in the context where it has already prevailed.
 
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Communism killed million people in the 20th century, it destroys, I would rate OP dumb or insane for this thread but mobile Tor browser does not allow me.
 
Terence McKenna said that communism is inherently good at preserving things since it puts culture into a "deep freeze" state.
 
mindlessobserver said:
The problem is "Conservatism" is not a coherent political philosophy. Its more of a mindset based around the part of any given population that is naturally skeptical to change. The old Commies at the end of the Soviet Union were "Conservative" because they attempted to preserve the status quo. Communism itself being a revolutionary ideology cannot be "Conservative" except in the context where it has already prevailed.
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And to make it even more confusing, the most "conservative" policies were implemented by Stalin ,who as a part of the Party's left supported the total nationalization of industry and most forms of private property, a planned economy and collectivization.
 
The repressiveness of authoritarian regimes hinges less on ideology and more on the nature of power.
 
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