Is it possible to create alternative media sites without them becoming an alt-right cum dumpster?

[TroonsDid911]

Kiwi farms is literally the only social media website I bother with. Every single other one has become a festering shit hole. I used to hang out on twitter because it was funny to watch people argue and fight(plus watching trolls was funny).

Now there have been a number of people that have tried to make alternatives to Twitter because of all the tranny jannies ruining free speech, but every single one of them is infested with right wing spam. Im more centrist and I love to say nigger as much as everyone else, but having every other post on a website be some Trump fag or Qanon nigger is really annoying and ruins the site.

I get that these places are full of refugees from Twitter, but do you think it is possible to make an alternative social media site that a wider spectrum of people would log onto?

 

[Breadbassket]

This is an interesting question, maybe try to establish a culture among users that will call out sperging and a-logging? The issue is that unless you grow really fast most normal people won't use any alternative websites besides what they already do because its what they have already used and if you have to rely on word-on-mouth to grow.

 

[soulgains]

I wouldn't even call the farms social media, it's just the last bastion of the forums of old. That's why it hasn't devolved into abunch retarded nonsense.

 

[Drkinferno72]

Far left or far right

Pick your poison

 

[Duke Nukem]

I don't mind alt-right posters as long as they don't fag up the site too much.

A person in the Buffalo thread said that OG Nazi propaganda showed families and prosperity and stuff, and modern alt-righters are all pessimistic "my race is dying" types obsessed with skulls, death, and the color black. They're probably all lifelong virgins too though, so I'm not worried about it too much.

Far left or far right

Pick your poison

Far left posters are much worse, as they don't have to deal with the onslaught of normies attacking their retarded positions as much as right leaning people. So it gives them carte blanche to act like self important assholes all the time.

 

[Gas Station Boner Pills]

cry about it + stay mad + get real + eat a dick + seethe cope dilate harder + hose mad + basic + skill issue + ratio + you fell off + the audacity + triggered? + nobody asked + not redpilled + get a life + ok and? + cringe + touch grass + not based + not funny didnt laugh + go outside + get good + reported + ad hominem + ask deez + slow clap + straight cash + ratio again + final ratio + stay mad + stay pressed + you like children + cancelled + done for + mad + rip bozo + slight_smile + cringe again + mad cuz bad + lol + irrelevant + cope + jealous + go ahead and cry about it + your problem + dont even care + not okay + good luck with that homo + problematic + no father figure

 

[DumbDude42]

if you aren't right wing then what do you need alternative media for lol

A person in the Buffalo thread said that OG Nazi propaganda showed families and prosperity and stuff, and modern alt-righters are all pessimistic "my race is dying" types

the OG Nazis had a functional society and a future to look forward to, so realistic optimism was possible
today we don't have functional societies, we have no future, so now any optimism would be little more than delusional denial of reality

 

[Sugriva]

Not unless you just ban political talk altogether. The politically-minded are usually the most vocal and annoying, so it has a way of infesting every corner of a site unless you make an active effort to section it off and quarantine it. Even that doesn't always work though. Just look at 4chan and /pol/.

 

[Duke Nukem]

if you aren't right wing then what do you need alternative media for lol

To rage and seethe at like Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984? We have Donald Trump for that though.

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[Pissmaster]

I don't think it's possible. Everything's equidistant on the internet, so everyone's gonna congregate under one site, and only go elsewhere if they're forced to. Places like Bitchute appeal only to those who got kicked off of YouTube. If you make inoffensive entertainment, the extra audience you'd receive by posting on alt-tech platforms would be miniscule, and not worth potential reputation damage for having your videos alongside videos like @Hollywood Hulk Hogan's Top 10 Qanon Posts and Also Why the Holocaust Didn't Happen

 

[JoshPlz]

I always thought KF is very balanced. We have all kinds here. Just laugh at spergs and don't worry about it.

 

[TFT-A9]

Any sufficiently polarized people inside this social thingy will start picking fights with each other and trying to push the ones they perceive as their polar opposites out. Unless they're effectively kept segregated from each other (good luck with that, and then that ruins the whole idea of a general social thingy that everyone shares) it will escalate, with each side dragging in more people to try and outnumber the other. People will be labeled "extremists" both out of deluded but sincere belief as well as out of dishonest convenience, because nuance is dead, people have decided they absolutely CAN NOT ABIDE a world shared with those they've decided to hate, and human beings are at their core stupid tribal monkeys who fling shit and try to kill each other constantly.

Since the people that inhabit the middle grounds tend to be quiet and disinterested in being that much of a bunch of retards on the Internet, you're going to find your social site seemingly swamped with noisy fucking retards screeching at each other, trying to pressgang other people into picking a side, attempting to chase others off of it either through mob tactics or trying to get an in with site staffing to bring down hammers on people they don't like for whatever reason. The perceived presence of an "enemy" will bring in screechers who try to chase all "enemies" out, even if the screechers were not present before the "enemy".

Social media sites are retard magnets, because people lately can't shut the fuck up and leave each other alone. Everything is a PRESSING MATTER OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT REQUIRES SWIFT AND DECISIVE ACTION (in the form of Internet slapfighting and other types of online derangement).

 

[LeChampion1992]

I mean honestly I think you're a bit too worried about the Trump Q anon Spergs. (They exist but they're very few and far between). But let's be honest for a moment here. If you hold left wing positions you don't have to deal with as much nonsense as right wing people do as @Duke Nukem has said earlier in the thread.

I mean you also forget the way the internet as a whole grew was the conspiracy theorists, bored people, and people who want to look at porn worked at alternatives to mainstream sources. Now that the Internet has become mainstream like TV all the normal places the creativity is dead.

Social media is run by a cabal of censors who all very similar relish In the fake and gay theater kid hipster lifestyle.

TL;DR
Stop worrying and learn to love the Q tard. (like nuclear weapons for invasion. Qtards provide a natural deterrence against against troons.)

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I mean honestly I think you're a bit too worried about the Trump Q anon Spergs. (They exist but they're very few and far between). But let's be honest for a moment here. If you hold left wing positions you don't have to deal with as much nonsense as right wing people do as @Duke Nukem has said earlier in the thread.

There's a lot of them on A&H. They aren't quite in the whole "JFK Jr is coming back with Trump as president" but they hold a lot of the same beliefs otherwise

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

It's because any alternate media is where the right has to go if they want to speak out loud because you have too many hysterical leftists shrieking about Qanon or whatever the fuck it is and mashing the Report button as fast as their fat fingers can fumble at it.

Besides, if it's only every other post that's alt-right, it's probably the progressive lunatics making that other post.

Just kick back and enjoy the ride.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

It's kind of eerie.
Any place of debate in the internet, independent of topic, turns out as either a left-wing autocratic dictatorship of some asswipe with a bunch of cronies (ie: mods) suppressing any kind of wrongthink or it becomes a cesspool of fascists with an outright autistic focus on something something globohomo.

In either case, the platform becomes a hellhole devoid of fun, filled to the brim with idiots regurgitating their shitty memes at each other endlessly.

KF in general is clearly more towards right-wing positions with some left positions here and there, but there's boards acting like some sort of diet /pol/ containment areas and those are just unbearable.
Hard to believe, KF used to be genuinely balanced and prior to Brexit and Trump's election, you could actually have a decent discussion on the News-board without getting cancer.

 

[The Magnificence]

No.

 

[Cool Dog]

First off this isnt social media you zoomerfag, this is a forum

Second, 99.999999% of social media its about virtue signal how much of a bleeding heart faggot you pretend to be for likes and clout, nobody is in that shit to have an actual honest conversation, so your use-case goes against the core of social media

Also the biggest alternatives to twitter are actually full of troons, tankies and other far-left insufferable faggots. The number of fediverse nodes that are free speech or right-wing are the minority

 

[Concho Pete]

No, because the "far-right" is literally the only thing censored.

And anyone that hosts them eventually gets deplatformed by the banks. So, will there be a viable alt media site without major, unlikely reforms? No

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

No

The reason: if Alt-Right cum dumpster babies (self included) are not allowed on other sites, they have to take what they can get.