Is not voting irresponsible?

[We Are The Witches]

I want to know your opinion on this issue, there are other threads about voting in general but this one is specifically for you to answer this: is not voting irresponsible?

As a citizen (while having the ability to participate), should you have the diligence to cast a vote or "blank vote" at the very least, in case you don't like any option?

If you want to add to this, would that be effective or make a difference? Would it be a moral obligation according to your standards? Or is the current political environment so bad that it justifies the idea of not participating anyways, because doing so would be nearly inconsequential and waste your time?

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Not voting is the mathematically sound choice. If you vote (in any American election) you do so solely for self-fulfillment, moral or entertainment reasons.

Even assuming fair and honest elections occurring (which I don't) your vote is mathematically insignificant and has zero effect on the outcome of the election. You are literally wasting your time and resources by voting.

Not voting is not only not irresponsible, it is the only sane and responsible choice.

 

[rel=alternate]

As a citizen (while having the ability to participate), should you at least have the diligence to cast a vote or "blank vote" at the very least, in case you don't like any option?

You know what's irresponsible? It's voting when you are a fucking retard.

The political environment has not changed. It's a business where you can only make it if you don't really have much convictions. At least not when it comes to them carrying over to action.

Most people should not vote. Most people are verifiably stupid. No matter if they are black, white, 18, obese, svelte or successful.

If you were running a company, would you ever consider giving equal vote to all employees? Or even give them a vote at all?

Your vote might matter, maybe YOURS. But if we're being honest with ourselves, this is a circus of getting the most retards to vote for you. In absolute, most people should have no say in the way the country is being run. If they want it to be ran effectively that is.

It really antagonizes me whenever I see fucking retards on TV or socials saying how important it is for citizens to cast a vote. I think anyone with an above average IQ can see how fucking retarded this is.

If you don't believe me, get involved in politics and see how that goes for you. This is just mafia disguised as public service.

 

[Sho'nuff]

I vote in local elections.
The nature of local elections filters out most if not all moron voters and local elections have tangible effects on my everyday life. Anything on the state scale or larger and too many voters show up who are told how to vote by media and have no idea what's going on. The full weight of informed voters is completely out matched by moron voters who's votes will go to whichever some media outlet or tiktok told them they should vote.
Voting in America really needs a civil service requirement. If you are going to vote for retards, at least be required to clean up your neighborhood for 400 hours or some thing along those lines.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

No - Other.

I have voted in every election I was eligible to vote in since I was 18 and I'm 38 now and outside of my guild I do not fucking vote, there is not one single person, idea or policy from any candidate I could sign my name against so rather than being purile I just didn't vote.

I know that means while I can legitimately say "Well I didn't vote for em" I also can't say "I voted for the other guy" but in this last election it was blue shit or red shit an the gamblers are pegging red to be a winner.

 

[The Ugly One]

You can only send one of three signals:
1. I prefer Candidate A
2. I prefer Candidate B
3. I don't give a shit about either of them

Perfectly legitimate to say (3).

 

[M3xus]

My attitude is that I don't get to bitch if I don't vote, so I vote.

 

[Absolutego]

Turnout is definitely its own form of protest.
The one thing I would say against not voting at all is that it gets rid of a useful hurdle that whatever party machine wants to forge your vote has to overcome. Better to fill out a ballot universally full of write-in "n/a, fuck you all", kind of candidates. I've been doing this for years re: judges running unopposed and that attitude is gaining traction. My area had a judge elected with only 2/3rd of the votes running in a solitary race in 2022.
There's a reason ballot harvesters target old grannies who aren't going to shuffle their way to the polling place anyways to effectively forge support for their candidate. Less paperwork. They have to waste time finding a reason to throw your ballot out if you do all write-ins, if you don't voooote then there's less work made for them.

 

[Fascist Frederick]

If there were a different system where my vote actually mattered, I would vote. Like some sort of lottery system where 50 random people are selected to vote, if my name came up, I'd vote. But as it is, my vote would be a single rain drop in the ocean, just as meaningless as signing a change.org petition.

 

[herefortheactualthreads]

there aren't any policital partys which i like taking seats in the important positions, so there won't be any change in germoney regardless of what you vote. its been that way since almost 20 years.

 

[Major]

it's not like it matters, so what's the point?

 

[Testacles Maximus]

If they want my vote they have to earn it. Do copious amounts of cocaine. Have a successful onlyfans. Distinguish yourself somehow.

 

[Fathomless Eminence]

Other

The "vooter" meme is Null worshipping parasocial cringe. Everyone who says voting doesn't matter is still anticipating other people to vote. They just argue that their vote doesn't matter because of various circumstances like living in an area that is controlled by the party they don't like or because they dislike that candidates are chosen by the parties and don't usually come up through grassroots support. Despite the aristocratic tendencies of modern western democracy, if nobody voted we'd just be back to mask-off monarchy. So it's not entirely irresponsible if a few cringe faggots don't vote under the circumstances I described but if everyone did that then we'd be in trouble.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Not irresponsible.

If you don't care enough to vote, then whatever. That's a valid choice. I prefer this scenario over someone who is completely ignorant of what's going on and votes anyway because "it's the thing to do."

Also, if you think all of your options suck ass and you don't have a good conscience about voting for anybody, then that's valid too.

"Don't complain if you don't vote!" is the most self-righteous and pompous shit. lol.

 

[Foghotten]

If you're a turkey and your only voting options are either Christmas or Thanksgiving, then not voting seems like less of a disgrace than doing so. Why engage with a system that antagonizes you, rigs choices in its favor anyways, and still attempts to burden responsibility onto you ?

Politicians have responsibilities towards the countries they serve before their citizens do. If they somehow don't have any, fuck them: this only means there is no such thing as civic responsibilities within your democratic system.

 

[Tony Vivaldi]

Voting was important until they realized they could rig it. Not buy it, like Kennedy vs. Nixon (Nixon won, BTW) but now they got the math to a science, so rig it.

Nowadays they got the money, the math, they got the redistricting, they got the names, and they got the migrants' numbers.

I passed through Jackson TN of all places and with my own eyes: there's a a fucking migrant camp right there in the hotels with migrants with addresses and checks from the Dot Gov and everything.

Your vote will be counter-voted.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

It depends.

I've been watching several European elections. Very little changes in a single election cycle there, even if they don't have a two party system. There is a degree of truth in "A vote for anything other than X or Y is a wasted vote". That said, if enough people vote for an alternative, momentum does build and they increasingly convince others that perhaps they actually do have a shot.

The Labour Party in the UK had to develop this way to usurp their left wing predecessors, and Reform today appears to be doing the same to the Tory party. When I was a child a Le Pen in power in France or AfD in the chronically right-fearing Germany was unthinkable, but they're constantly climbing in influence.

America is further behind and much nearer the start of such a process. If ancient institutions like the Conservative and Unionist party can start to crumble in the face of a dissenting vote, there's no reason to presume any other cannot.

Your vote, together with others, might be enough to start a snowball slowly into an alternative. If you don't vote, that may never start to happen.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

If you're not voting Democrat, yes.

 

[Ghost of Biden]

I haven’t voted for 8 years. I’ve never had my vote stolen.

 

[seri0us]

I haven’t voted for 8 years. I’ve never had my vote stolen.

How do you know?