Is Robert Given too much Credit?

[Christory101]

Not to be critical, but isn't "white trash" kind of a slur?

I used it once around my father, and he gave me a stern reprimand for doing so .

Also, on a different note, are there any pics of Bob in army uniform?

My own grand-pap fought in WWII, so whatever else his flaws I respect a man who's a veteran!

 

[Bernd Lauert]

He was old, tired and had a fucking handful of a child basically dropped in his elderly lap. After a while, could you honestly blame him?

Yes I can. He should have left his wrinkly out of Barb's china.

The idea of porking Barb is... disgusting.
Never stick your dick in crazy.
Bob knew and decided to break the rule. Not a man. Not a man at all.

And even if you have no self-control or self-respect at all, at least wear a rubber for shitsakes.
Bob had it coming. He just refused to take any responsibility for his stupid action.
Wait... doesn't that remind us of someone?

 

[CWCissey]

He was old, tired and had a fucking handful of a child basically dropped in his elderly lap. After a while, could you honestly blame him?

Yes I can. He should have left his wrinkly out of Barb's china.

The idea of porking Barb is... disgusting.
Never stick your dick in crazy.
Bob knew and decided to break the rule. Not a man. Not a man at all.

And even if you have no self-control or self-respect at all, at least wear a rubber for shitsakes.
Bob had it coming. He just refused to take any responsibility for his stupid action.
Wait... doesn't that remind us of someone?

Didn't Bob leave his wife for Barb too?

Letting his control him there!

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Pffffftt.

Here's how it went down:

Bob has alienated his family; his kids want nothing to do with him.

- looking for the admiration he craves, he frequents bars
- gets drunk regularly
- meets this trashy gal with obvious issues
- gets drunk with her
- unprotected porking (probably drunk) ensues
- repeatedly
- whoopsie, trashy gal is pregnant. Go figure.
- Bob makes an honest woman out of her.

What's next? Almost three decades of pretending that nothing of that ever happened.
Hey, if I just shut myself in in this here garden shed and pretend real hard that I did nothing wrong, everything will be alright.

Spoiler

That didn't work.

Oh, let's not forget three decades of horribly stupid decisions:
- Buy a lot of expensive cars without being able to afford them, don't know how to drive them, don't maintain them - now they're lawn ornaments.
- School officials suggest special education tailored to the special needs of my unwanted son? Naah. Can't let the neighbors think I fathered a tardbaby.
- Dream up a series of paranoid conspiracy theories, each one stupider than the previous one
- Claim affiliation with the KKK to impress/scare a couple of stupid weens instead of hanging up on them
- Continue to stuff face with fast food after triple bypass operation
- Wife develops full-blown psychosis? Time for some quality hours in the garden shed.
- Friends? Social life? Bah, humbug. People don't treat the inventor of plastic molding controls with the respect he deserves! They're antisocial trolls!

In short, a lot of Chris' stupidity is the direct result of him mimicking his stupid father.

 

[Batman]

Meh. I'm more inclined to believe that trashy gal date raped him, based on Cole's account of their courtship.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

If you really want to go there:
Seeing as they probably both had to get drunk before being able to bump their uglies, it's a moot point who raped whom.

Forget it. I don't want to go there.

 

[TopCat]

This might be relevant:

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[Dr.Research]

Look guys, Bob was already old when Chris was born. He was grandpa age not dad age. I don't know how many of you have kids but let me tell you it is a lot of work keeping up with them, trying to be a good example raising them, trying to provide what they need and what they want, trying to give them life experiences, trying to help educate them. Believe me it is a lot of work and can be exhausting. Grandparent age is the age when people should be able to relax and do the fun stuff with the grandkids and not have to worry so much about the work stuff. It's just hard to keep up with kids all the time. Bob certainly may have had his faults, but I think he genuinely cared for Chris and tried... just already being so goddamn old and ending up a father again... well it would be hard even if the child was normal but with a special needs kid and his age the deck was stacked pretty high against him from the start.

I agree with you completely. I mentioned on another post that partially because Barb and he were so old they probably just sort of gave up. I don't know the exactly how much he cared for Chris (I'm willing to bet at least somewhat, Chris being his son and at least one happy family photo) but like everyone said, he tried more than Barb in Chris's later years.

I didn't think people genuinely thought Bob was a good parent, though, so much as he had a memetic appeal to people because he was an old man who was funny and personable to trolls, did things of value during his life, and had a distant relationship with Chris. Barb, by contrast, is a fat (possibly now unfat), cranky old hoarder who has a creepy and nauseating relationship with Chris, which makes everything she does as a parent and a person seem even more reprehensible than it already is.

Exactly.

Personally, I thought the Internet Lumberjack thing was cool but didn't hold Bob leaps higher than Barb.

 

[Marvin]

This might be relevant:

http://snag.gy/PrpHg.jpg

Shit, is this real? Where did you find this?

I would imagine that it's a lot more likely that the screencap is genuine. The genuineness of the content of the post would be a lot more likely to be fake. (Unless that's what you're saying)

As far as the content of the post goes, I'd assume it's bullshit unless I got some good evidence otherwise. I can't imagine Bob would have regular conversations with someone without a solid reason to accept them as a friend. Like, them being a confirmed friend of Chris' or something. And I'm pretty sure this person didn't have the necessary connections to pull that off.

 

[Christory101]

The content could be genuine. I got the impression that Bob would chat extensivly with little provocation, since he was a lonely old man. I mean think about it. There's no evidence he had anyone but Chrisn 'Barb toward the end of his life. Many old people love talking to young people and that is what I think he did. Its not unreasonable to think he hated him at some level, given how obnoxious and selfish Chris can be, not to A-log but c'mon!!

Also Marvin or any major Christorian, I would dearly love to see some Bob in Korea pics, (if any exist)

 

[Horde Prime]

He was old, tired and had a fucking handful of a child basically dropped in his elderly lap. After a while, could you honestly blame him?

Yes I can. He should have left his wrinkly out of Barb's china.

The idea of porking Barb is... disgusting.
Never stick your dick in crazy.
Bob knew and decided to break the rule. Not a man. Not a man at all.

And even if you have no self-control or self-respect at all, at least wear a rubber for shitsakes.
Bob had it coming. He just refused to take any responsibility for his stupid action.
Wait... doesn't that remind us of someone?

Look, I'm pretty sure Angelina Jolie is bat shit insane, but I don't think there are too many men in the world who would turn down a night with her.

 

[Tiresome]

Pffffftt.

Here's how it went down:

Bob has alienated his family; his kids want nothing to do with him.

- looking for the admiration he craves, he frequents bars
- gets drunk regularly
- meets this trashy gal with obvious issues
- gets drunk with her
- unprotected porking (probably drunk) ensues
- repeatedly
- whoopsie, trashy gal is pregnant. Go figure.
- Bob makes an honest woman out of her.

Bob and Barb got married in 1980. Chris was born in 82.

 

[Descent]

I don't know if Marvin, or anyone else in the know would be able to answer this, but does anyone know roughly when Bob's first two kids stopped talking to him?

 

[scxthursday]

Yes, I agree with you OP.
He was also very old when they had Chris, which is why I think he gave up easily on him and decided to give up on him.

Not only did Bob give up on OPL, but so did Snorlax in her own way. Bob looked completely miserable in some pictures, like he was aware that OPL was a accident, and that he regretted doing Barb without a raincoat. I think it was Barb who pampered, spoiled, make Chris believe he was entitled to everything as well as shoving some of Bobs Area 51-esq conspiracies down OPL's throat. It seems Barb never attempted to encourage Chris to take responsibility for his actions, nor attempt to have him grow up or change the way he is in general. Bob at the very least tried and failed miserably in that department (perfect example being taking down the house tour videos). When OPL became a 18 year old man child, both of them gave up trying.

And yes, Ezio Auditore da Firenze can leap of faith. He's a pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything....except snakes.

 

[Dudeofteenage]

Every time Chris talks about how his failures aren't his fault because there's some kind of conspiracy against him, that's Bob's influence at work.

I don't care how many wars he fought in, that alone makes him a bad parent. And I don't even think we can say "he tried and failed" any more than we can Barb, because as someone else has said, it's notable that his 'mistakes' were always the course of action that required the least from him personally. He wasn't making a noble but doomed effort, he was doing the bare minimum.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

The idea of porking Barb is... disgusting.
Never stick your dick in crazy.

Look, I'm pretty sure Angelina Jolie is bat shit insane, but I don't think there are too many men in the world who would turn down a night with her.

Are you really, seriously comparing Barb to Angelina Jolie?

 

[HarryHowler]

I don't know if Marvin, or anyone else in the know would be able to answer this, but does anyone know roughly when Bob's first two kids stopped talking to him?

For Bob and David, the mid-90s at the latest, since Bob didn't discover the existence of Savannah until early 2004. No idea about Carol, though.

The circumstances around the breakdown of Bob's first marriage still seem to be the great unknown in the lumberjack's life. It probably would go a long way toward explaining why he was so distant from his first two children - even if we assume that Bob got a quick and clean divorce from Patricia and then married Barb just a few months later, David would have been 18 when that happened, and Carol just 11. Parental break-ups at that age can leave a lot of bitter memories for kids.

 

[bradsternum]

Christ, Bob was in his late fifties when Barb queefed Chris into existence. He was way too old to be dealing with that shit.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Given his relationship with his other kids, and given the way Chris turned out, it's pretty beyond question that whatever Bob's other qualities, he was a crap parent. While Barb was undoubtedly the most negative influence, I've yet to see any evidence that Bob did anything other than go along with whatever batshit scheme she came up with. In general, he just seems to have been incredibly passive.