Is the Bible not actually a religious text. But actually a collection of proverbs and anecdotes to warn humanity of it's own nature?

[William Tyndale]

It’s both. The accuracy defining human nature proves its legitimacy as a religious text.

 

[Little oak tree]

in your opinion that makes it false? if it is recorded in basically evey ancient culture, it has a root of truth.

No, just pointing precisely at the roots from where they took their knowledge from.

it goes in cycles, almost every book in the old testament is about this

god helps the jews>>>>jews become faggot in the span of like, 2 generations>>>god wrecks them>>>>jews repent>>>gold helps the jews>>>>jews become faggots, so on and on

the "golden age" is not about an absence of depravity, just whether or not the depravity was encouraged and the norm

At one point it was seen as depravity someone saying "hey maybe we should stop burning babies"
The definition of depravity changes a lot within each culture, I bet if you saw how things were not even so long ago, you'd be shocked at how primitive we've always been.
But yes these are cycles, but not of good vs evil, just Chaos and Order which are the same, you are Chaos for me, and I'm Chaos for you.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Doesn't the Constitution allow me to do what I want?
I never read it.

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

No, just pointing precisely at the roots from where they took their knowledge from.

but the knowledge came from it happening is what i mean. just because gilgamesh wrote it down before moses, doesnt mean that either account is false.

At one point it was seen as depravity someone saying "hey maybe we should stop burning babies"
The definition of depravity changes a lot within each culture,

and thus we enter, "tree of knowledge of good and evil". depravity/morality has never changed. god has always been consistent in establishing what is right and wrong, it never changes.

what does change is man's definition, interpretation or justification of what is right or wrong. this is because adam and eve ate this fruit that we think we have "knowledge" of what is right or wrong. it has always been wrong to murder or steal or kill babies or cheat on your spouse. that has never changed. all that has changed is human ego and culture saying "no, its actually ok because..."

in reality, man is in no position to decide these things, they only THINK they are because of this knowledge of good and evil

I bet if you saw how things were not even so long ago, you'd be shocked at how primitive we've always been.

i'm a christian and a YEC. i am aware humans have never changed since creation. some humans are good, some are bad, it goes in cycles and depends on where you live, what time period, etc. but no one except Yeshua has ever been perfect.

humans are essentially babies/children and that is why the way we are. if you view humanity through the lens of being god's literal children (in terms of mentality, especially) so much of the bible makes so much more sense. humans have this thing where we think we're so epic and smart and shit, but in reality, if you realy look at the world, and the shit humans do, we're dumb, stupid kids.

when God asked adam "did you eat this fruit, who told you you were naked, etc"...adam tried to lie and blame eve, which is what a child would do. just like when you got caught as a kid doing something wrong, your parents knew, but that asked because they wanted to see if you would lie...that is why god is so big on forgiveness. because he loves you anyway as a parent.


anyway, getting off on a tangent here but people have never changed. we've been the same since the beginning, some worse than others, and we will be so until the end. look how modern and advanced we claim to be, but people are still killing babies and being pagans. 1500 years after creation, or today, ti doesnt matter, people are doing the SAME EXACT SHIT.

But yes these are cycles, but not of good vs evil, just Chaos and Order which are the same, you are Chaos for me, and I'm Chaos for you.

but perhaps both of us are wrong, who can be the judge?

 

[Little oak tree]

in your opinion that makes it false?

No

but the knowledge came from it happening is what i mean. just because gilgamesh wrote it down before moses, doesnt mean that either account is false.

and thus we enter, "tree of knowledge of good and evil". depravity/morality has never changed. god has always been consistent in establishing what is right and wrong, it never changes.

I shit on your Gods.
You live inside a bubble

i'm a christian and a YEC. i am aware humans have never changed since creation.

you are beyond redemption

humans are essentially babies/children and that is why the way we are.

Yes, the dumbfucks burn themselves in the oven and blame Satan or whatever, they are disgusting I'm thinking about starting to identify as a Lobster instead

when God asked adam "did you eat this fruit, who told you you were naked, etc"...adam tried to lie and blame eve, which is what a child would do.

Yes I agree, but Eve just staying there and taking all the blame without defending herself is also stupid kid behavior

anyway, getting off on a tangent here but people have never changed. we've been the same since the beginning, some worse than others, and we will be so until the end.

Typical Cristian anti-life defeatism ideology, hypocrite. Embrace the adaptations we have, survival is costly that doesn't mean you have to remain purely animal.

but perhaps both of us are wrong, who can be the judge?

Fuck you. But yes who knows?

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

I shit on your Gods.

i dont have "gods", just the one. shitting on it doesnt affect or offend me any

You live inside a bubble

what did he mean by this?

you are beyond redemption

i've already been redeemed. do not try to paint your pagan bullshit as any sort of redemption

Yes, the dumbfucks burn themselves in the oven and blame Satan or whatever, they are disgusting I'm thinking about starting to identify as a Lobster instead

i dont even know what this mean

Yes I agree, but Eve just staying there and taking all the blame without defending herself is also stupid kid behavior

nothing to defend. she was guilty. they both listened to things other than god (the dragon in eve's case, eve in adam's case), and were punished for it. there is no defense. how can you defend yourself in a court sense when you were seen committing the crime? what is she gonna say, "nuh uh, i didnt eat it". they were caught red handed

Typical Cristian anti-life defeatism ideology, hypocrite

anti-life? quite the opposite...also, no hypocrisy here. perhaps you could explain better? christians are not anti-life at all

Embrace the adaptations we have, survival is costly that doesn't mean you have to remain purely animal.

i'm not an animal. what "adaptations" do we have that i am not adopting and how does this lead to "being animal"? what is there to embrace, exactly?

i'm not trying to argue these question, i am legit confused by what you mean by these. you mentioned me being a hyproctie, anti-life, etc. im not sure what you read in my post that would indicate either...

Fuck you. But yes who knows?

why are you acting like such a nigger?

 

[Little oak tree]

i've already been redeemed. do not try to paint your pagan bullshit as any sort of redemption

No whore believing some hippie killed himself so you could be saved is beyond childish it's fucking full-blown psychosis. Achieving your own full potential is a thing only each person can know and obtain through their own experience. No need for pagan gods it's called taking accountability for your life, something you are crippled for thanks to your retarded parents and religion/culture

nothing to defend. she was guilty. they both listened to things other than god (the dragon in eve's case, eve in adam's case), and were punished for it. there is no defense. how can you defend yourself in a court sense when you were seen committing the crime? what is she gonna say, "nuh uh, i didnt eat it". they were caught red handed

just like when you got caught as a kid doing something wrong, your parents knew, but that asked because they wanted to see if you would lie...that is why god is so big on forgiveness. because he loves you anyway as a parent.

Probably like a parent, God then just patiently waited while they both blamed each other and killed one another while he just observed. I mean they are the ones who invented the concept of nakedness and shame, no need to cast blame if there is no shame
And they were already naked, the sin was BEING ASHAMED OF IT.

Recycled meme:

anti-life? quite the opposite...also, no hypocrisy here. perhaps you could explain better? christians are not anti-life at all

You love flesh but are ashamed of it, you separate parts of the work of God you don't like as the "Work of Satan", retarded and antiquated prohibitions you don't even understand the purpose for (a purpose no longer even exists in many cases), and a general dissociation and escapist mentality

i'm not an animal. what "adaptations" do we have that i am not adopting and how does this lead to "being animal"? what is there to embrace, exactly?

YOU HAVE A BODY WITH PRIMAL INSTINCTS. YOU ARE ALSO THIS BODY. YOU ARE PART OF AN ECOSYSTEM. IT'S A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP.

why are you acting like such a nigger?

There are many possibilities, I could simply BE such a nigger, or idk man. what are you even describing

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

@Little oak tree

No whore believing some hippie killed himself so you could be saved is beyond childish it's fucking full-blown psychosis

um....i guess?? idk what you mean, but i guess that sounds childish or psychotic?

No need for pagan gods

well, i dont disagree. the risk is not really worth the reward, at least to me. of course the president of the united states and many wealthy actors and "musicians" would obviously disagree. turns out, some people are really into money and fame

it's called taking accountability for your life

what is called that? what does my personal accoutnability (or lack thereof that you claim) have to do with this topic

something you are crippled for thanks to your retarded parents and religion/culture

again, why are you under the impression that i am not accountable for my choices or actions? in my previous post that you seemingly read and are responding too, im saying the opposite. also bringing up my parents is weird and random.

Probably like a parent, God then just patiently waited while they both blamed each other and killed one another while he just observed

were you under the impression that god was supposed to coddle you and clean up all your mistakes and ill-actions for you? humanity makes its own choices and is living this ACCOUNTABILITY to were griping about before. god specifically told people that murder is wrong. people do it any way. continuously. what do you think god's responsibility is here in cleaning up the mess humans have created? god already told you the rules, you know the rules. you dont listen. you live with the consequence. this is very simple

god has tried several times to fix humans, and humans say "eh, no thanks, sticking my cock in any warm whole and this genocide stuff is just way too fun"

god gives people what they desire

You love flesh but are ashamed of it

i am?

you separate parts of the work of God you don't like as the "Work of Satan",

i do?

retarded and antiquated prohibitions you don't even understand the purpose for (a purpose no longer even exists in many cases)

ah right, so murder was only wrong back then, it's antiquated to think so....i should adopt modernity and go on a shooting spree?

YOU HAVE A BODY WITH PRIMAL INSTINCTS. YOU ARE ALSO THIS BODY. YOU ARE PART OF AN ECOSYSTEM. IT'S A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP.

uh...yeah...and?

There are many possibilities, I could simply BE such a nigger, or idk man. what are you even describing

you're chimping out a lot about this

 

[CowPox]

There was no moralistic wisdom revealed in the bible not already known to by man.

 

[Little oak tree]

but i guess that sounds childish or psychotic?

Yes

what is called that? what does my personal accoutnability (or lack thereof that you claim) have to do with this topic

The whole Christian mindset is about casting all blame outwards, towards an evil entity, and all the personal guilt to a perpetually crucified moron

again, why are you under the impression that i am not accountable for my choices or actions? in my previous post that you seemingly read and are responding too, im saying the opposite. also bringing up my parents is weird and random.

Were your parents Christian? Let's say parents have a lot of influence over Kids and people who never outgrew the stupidity of their parents grow up to be Christians like them

were you under the impression that god was supposed to coddle you and clean up all your mistakes and ill-actions for you? humanity makes its own choices and is living this ACCOUNTABILITY to were griping about before. god specifically told people that murder is wrong. people do it any way. continuously. what do you think god's responsibility is here in cleaning up the mess humans have created? god already told you the rules, you know the rules. you dont listen. you live with the consequence. this is very simple

We are talking about a symbolical myth and a symbolical apple I don't know what are you saying about murder and shit.

i am?

According to your belief system, you should.

i do?

According to your belief system, you should.

ah right, so murder was only wrong back then, it's antiquated to think so....i should adopt modernity and go on a shooting spree?

Back then it was not murder to stone a woman to Death for being unfaithful tho. Or accused of being unfaithful.
Fuck modernity let's stone some sluts to death

you're chimping out a lot about this

You wasting time on this website: Holy Christian work
Me wasting time in this website: Chimping out

 

[Antenna7]

You wasting time on this website: Holy Christian work
Me wasting time in this website: Chimping out

You are focusing way to much on minutiae and splitting of hairs. Take some steps back, people are making more generalized observations and connections.

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

Yes

well i guess we both agree? thanks for bringing it up?

The whole Christian mindset is about casting all blame outwards, towards an evil entity, and all the personal guilt to a perpetually crucified moron

really? huh....idk man, i never picked up on any of that....maybe you went to a weird church but the bible DEFINITELY teaches that everyone is responsible for their own sin and their own choices.. like, in the first book, in like, the first 5 chapters, it is very clear that no one forced adam or eve or lucifer to do anything they did, they made the choices themselves. there are also many psudeugraphica and commentaries that say the same thing...

Were your parents Christian?

no. religion was never even a topic in my household in anyway outside of an agnostic "eh, maybe" context.

We are talking about a symbolical myth and a symbolical apple I don't know what are you saying about murder and shit.

you were talking about how commandments are antiquted....idk anything about any symbolical myth or apple, i was talking about adam and eve for the most part. perhaps this confusion is us talking about 2 different things

According to your belief system, you should.
According to your belief system, you should.

my belief system doesnt teach to be ashamed of the flesh, nor does it teach to dissect the word of god and dismiss it as being satanic.

Back then it was not murder to stone a woman to Death for being unfaithful tho. Or accused of being unfaithful.
Fuck modernity let's stone some sluts to death

eh, im not much on the judgment side of things. i more of the jesus side of do your own thing and let christ wreck all the lawbreakers and the wicked. not my place.

You wasting time on this website: Holy Christian work
Me wasting time in this website: Chimping out

nah im not much into christian work. the way i see it, the bible is available in many formats, for free, in hundreds of languages. we live in an age of science, archeology, etc. if you still choose not to believe, nothing i can say will help anyone. i dont participate in any type of convsersion stuff, people love their sin and their earthly gratification, so let them bathe in it for all i care, let them have the conseuqneces.

There was no moralistic wisdom revealed in the bible not already known to by man.

the bible is not meant to be a revelation of moralistic wisdom. it was simply documenting it

 

[Antenna7]

the bible is not meant to be a revelation of moralistic wisdom. it was simply documenting it

Well yeah. The old saying "A sucker is born every minute" is actually telling you people are being born at this moment that don't know shit and will need some guidance from somewhere. So what are they gonna read to get some insight? "Unlocking the Bible"? Or "Treason to Whiteness is Loyalty to Humanity"?