Is the big-I-Internet becoming "the dark web"? - Hear me out on this one.

[Hepativore]

@OutInTheRain and @HahaYes

This is why I think Null was on to something when he said the era of free speech on the internet is over, as most people will choose convenience and do what their friends do instead of seeking out or doing things on the internet that they have never seen or done before.

It will only get worse with the zoomers, and Generation Alpha, as they have never known an internet or operating systems that were not walled gardens and so therefore can never miss what they have never had...and will probably regard millennials who are rapidly-reaching middle-age as being irrelevant and old-fashioned when they talk about the days of the "classic" internet, assuming that most millennials will even care anymore as they work their dead-end jobs or fuss over their kids if they have reproduced.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

If you really want to feel immense disappointment, broach the topic of torrents/torrent clients lmao. They could be 15 or 65, most people will look at you like you're speaking Xhosa to them or something... that's if they don't immediately say "I don't want to get a million viruses!"

Ke musa ukuba sisidenge. Vimba iintengiso kwaye uyeke ukucofa kuyo yonke into ebonakala intle.

Spoiler: I used a translator. Probably not accurate.

Then don't be stupid. Block ads and stop clicking on everything that looks pretty.

 

[Matt Damon]

god help you if your organisation uses a portal with approvals to install software on their corporate device, because they can't figure that out either and end up sperging out at the service desk lol.

In fairness to the Zoomers, this drives me absolutely batshit too. Keep me off the gay corporate intranet if you must, but Christ almighty let me administrate my own PC.

 

[NoReturn]

There's a book that came out 20 years ago called Feed (formerly Fuck). In it, the Feed is a device implanted in your brain that connects you to the Internet 24/7 and it tracks your every waking moment, literally watching you buy things so it can better advertise to you, it's largely a commentary on late 20th-century consumer culture but it feels more accurate now than it was even then. It was very prescient of the modern world of algorithms. I read it shortly after it came out and it's always stuck with me, especially in the last few years as this shit has accelerated. I don't remember if the book was any good or not, but the concept of the Feed has always stuck with me and now I think about that book an awful lot.

In this same vein there's also "Manna": https://marshallbrain.com/manna1
And "Don't Make Me Think": https://archive.is/MPAfa

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

That is indeed a plus for this place, but poor for the internet as a whole. When 90% of the internet consists of social media platforms or corporate-prioritized search results for people who only use Google as their search engine, any dissent outside of what these media platforms or promoted sites feature will be dead and buried, leaving non-normie ideas and opinions to languish in isolation.

Then places like the Farms will disappear without anybody noticing or caring as they will be too engrossed in their Twitter feeds to notice that the tech overlords decided to shut down what remained of internet free speech.

Drop your idealization of "the people" and you'll stop giving a shit about this "problem". The Farms has many existential threats but whether or not retarded zoomers find this website is completely irrelevant to its continued existence.

 

[NOT Satoshi Nakamoto]

No.


It's more accurate to say that the Internet (including the tor / i2p internets) is dying. Like I said in my DNMs thread, the ability to use any complex system like the Internet becomes rarer as humans become 1 IQ point less intelligent every 10 years.

Instead people pile into apps (which are darknets) that are not publicly accessable, require court orders to attack which are barriers to LEOs, and have vastly larger userbases, making them arguably more anonymous and harder to infiltrate. For example all the dealers I've spoken to operated on Snapchat.

The popularity of apps is also because users are bludgeoned with demands from companies to download apps. Did you know you can use Discord, Tinder, Reddit, Telegram, or any other number of services from your browser? Of course you didn't! If you did you wouldn't put spyware on your phone!

The reason the clearweb specifically is dying is because of SEO hell. Web devs are in an arms race of who can shove ads furthest into your butt. The consensus is that the they get the furthest in by making pasé clickbait nonsense garbage listacles with 6,000,000 popups, so that's what gets inferio into your web searches. Why would anybody put up with that shit when they can get what they want on social media?

Sad thing is they may be making the right choice. Who has time to figure out how to use the internet properly? Just download your zogware and go back to eating bugs and taking drugs. Easier that fighting with robots to find what your looking for on the WWW.

 

[Johnny Salami]

The popularity of apps is also because users are bludgeoned with demands from companies to download apps. Did you know you can use Discord, Tinder, Reddit, Telegram, or any other number of services from your browser? Of course you didn't! If you did you wouldn't put spyware on your phone!

In the future those won't be allowed to be accessed through the regular int6and you'll need to install an app to use. Like everytime I check out a reddit thread it's Telling me to download the app as well and become someone unusable while using them through the browser. I don't even think you can look at someone's Instagram account long enough without one

 

[AhByee]

@OutInTheRain tried quoting you but it won't work....
Anyway, I'm in that age group and the horrors of the early net made us super careful. Also, Twitter and other large social media sites rather function like a morning newspaper. I don't even own a tv or plan to get one. There are many like me who in spite of all the issues these paltforms face, we much prefer socials. However I'm open to any site I can find good, non woke content so I'm not loyal to these apps.

No.


It's more accurate to say that the Internet (including the tor / i2p internets) is dying. Like I said in my DNMs thread, the ability to use any complex system like the Internet becomes rarer as humans become 1 IQ point less intelligent every 10 years.

Instead people pile into apps (which are darknets) that are not publicly accessable, require court orders to attack which are barriers to LEOs, and have vastly larger userbases, making them arguably more anonymous and harder to infiltrate. For example all the dealers I've spoken to operated on Snapchat.

The popularity of apps is also because users are bludgeoned with demands from companies to download apps. Did you know you can use Discord, Tinder, Reddit, Telegram, or any other number of services from your browser? Of course you didn't! If you did you wouldn't put spyware on your phone!

The reason the clearweb specifically is dying is because of SEO hell. Web devs are in an arms race of who can shove ads furthest into your butt. The consensus is that the they get the furthest in by making pasé clickbait nonsense garbage listacles with 6,000,000 popups, so that's what gets inferio into your web searches. Why would anybody put up with that shit when they can get what they want on social media?

Sad thing is they may be making the right choice. Who has time to figure out how to use the internet properly? Just download your zogware and go back to eating bugs and taking drugs. Easier that fighting with robots to find what your looking for on the WWW.

This! Seo is ruining google. My YouTube recommended is so bad I had to shift to TikTok and other sites. Just a month ago, I used to get really nice recommendations: educational and entertaining. Now it's just clickbait and unrelated vids. Thinking about starting a subreddit or something for that.

 

[NoReturn]

In the future those won't be allowed to be accessed through the regular int6and you'll need to install an app to use. Like everytime I check out a reddit thread it's Telling me to download the app as well and become someone unusable while using them through the browser.

Change the url to old.reddit.com or i.reddit.com
e.g.
https://www.reddit.com/r/houseplants
-->
https://old.reddit.com/r/houseplants/

https://i.reddit.com/r/houseplants/

I don't even think you can look at someone's Instagram account long enough without one

Use picuki or imginn instead.
e.g.

https://www.instagram.com/drsidhbhgallagher/

-->

https://imginn.com/drsidhbhgallagher/

https://www.picuki.com/profile/drsidhbhgallagher

---

For TikTok: Urlebird or TikyToky

e.g. https://www.tiktok.com/@tessholliday
-->

https://urlebird.com/user/tessholliday/

https://tikytoky.com/profile/tessholliday/

As a bonus, this will also catch videos that a user has deleted.

 

[raspberry mocha]

Zoomers will never be tricked into clicking lemonparty or tubgirl links. Sad.

 

[Hepativore]

Zoomers will never be tricked into clicking lemonparty or tubgirl links. Sad.

...or the joys of perusing the images of Ratemypoo and classic /b/

 

[NOT Satoshi Nakamoto]

@Johnny Salami

In the future those won't be allowed to be accessed through the regular internet and you'll need to install an app to use.

Fat fucking chance, lmao.

Corpos can lie to their influencers, but not to me. Most apps are just chromium forks with some spyware stitched on, so keeping a webapp maintained is ez. The small percentage of users who want to log in on somebody else's phone, care about privacy (growing demographic, btw), or just hate apps is enough to keep the mobile browser scene alive, and if they try any gay retard shit, there's a toggle in your browser to enable the desktop site, with even more functionalities than the app.

@AhByee

My YouTube recommended is so bad I had to shift to TikTok and other sites

You've got a serious social media addiction if you're using ChinkTok; it's time to stop. Can I install a keylogger on your phone too please?

Last I checked (like a year ago) the thumb up / thumb down buttons still tuned the recommendations pretty

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Not only is the internet becoming more "sanitized" and centralized, but entropy seems to apply to web design as well.

Some site which worked well and was not too JS heavy had layout changed, changed to only work in JS, and search was borked to be BS.

This made me think: has a website ever gotten better, or does entropy apply to web design too: sites always decay and don't improve?

Spoiler

(aside from this site anyway)

 

[High Level Rad Waste]

Plus, why do not more Android mobilefags use the NewPipe app to watch videos? It does everything YouTube Vanced used to do but better, as well as faster loading, background play, audio-only and downloading options, and no ads by default as well as no age or region blocks.

+1 for newpipe, I got it after an extended Vanced outage after support ended. It's better. It can get a little fucky when transitioning back from a smaller window to the full app screen and it won't display streams. You have to find them using a browser, then punch the address into newpipe to watch it.

It's also becoming like the dark web in that search engines are starting to become more and more useless for navigating it.

I've had to resort to using Yandex to find shit that even Brave doesn't pull up anymore. Try Kiwifarms itself. First result is the website on Yandex, but nothing but journo articles crying about it on Brave. I've made it a habit to bookmark everything interesting in their own folders and subfolders because of this shit.

 

[NoReturn]

I've made it a habit to bookmark everything interesting in their own folders and subfolders because of this shit.

We're going back to the original Yahoo, boys and girls.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

the original Yahoo

the Japanese Yahoo! still kinda looks like the old Yahoo! site

 

[Beige]

This! Seo is ruining google. My YouTube recommended is so bad I had to shift to TikTok and other sites. Just a month ago, I used to get really nice recommendations: educational and entertaining. Now it's just clickbait and unrelated vids. Thinking about starting a subreddit or something for that.

Holy shit, thought it was just me. Built a new PC a couple weeks ago, and at first I thought it was just that I was on a fresh install (don't have a YouTube Account). Usually only takes a couple days for stuff I like to filter back in, but 2 weeks later I'm still getting recommended shit like Anthony Fantano because I've listened to music a lot I guess? About half of it is clickbait low-effort meme shit, and mainstream Twitch people.

 

[NoReturn]

Holy shit, thought it was just me. Built a new PC a couple weeks ago, and at first I thought it was just that I was on a fresh install (don't have a YouTube Account). Usually only takes a couple days for stuff I like to filter back in, but 2 weeks later I'm still getting recommended shit like Anthony Fantano because I've listened to music a lot I guess? About half of it is clickbait low-effort meme shit, and mainstream Twitch people.

Dude same. I manually build YouTube playlists for things I like, and you'd think whoever was coding the algorithm would understand that means something, but I just see the same shit over and over and over.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Plus, why do not more Android mobilefags use the NewPipe app to watch videos? It does everything YouTube Vanced used to do but better, as well as faster loading, background play, audio-only and downloading options, and no ads by default as well as no age or region blocks.

Does it allow playing a little screen on the side while I browse, like vance still does?

 

[volatile]

I am literally mad at the Internet these days, every single search result is AI-generated crap that has no value whatsoever. We're going back to the Geocities era where you jumped through webrings and links to find new information.

Does it allow playing a little screen on the side while I browse, like vance still does?

Yep. There's no reason _not_ to use it.