Is the term 'Judeo-Christian' a grift?

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Also, (and I don't know if you are doing this on purpose), you kinda imply that the incorporation of non-jews into Christianity was something that just sort of happened over time. I don't think this is the case. I remember learning that the NT was originally written in Koine Greek (the lingua-franca of the Eastern portion of the Roman Empire), not Hebrew (the religious language of the Jews) or Aramaic (the language Jesus spoke in his day-to-day life). I was told the point of this was specifically to make the text available to non-Jews. Christianity was never meant to be an exclusively Jewish thing.

It did happen over time. The early leaders (still Jewish) did not branch the faith to the Gentiles immediately. They remained a small community within Jewish sectors (which was why early persecutions were so effective) in the early years. When the church eventually branched out and started adding Gentiles into the faith, they still went to the synagogues in a city FIRST before reaching out to the Gentile population. Furthermore, The Book of Acts (Acts 15:4-30 to be precise) does mention the debate on whether or not the Gentile Followers of The Way were to subject to Jewish Law (The Laws of Moses described in the Old Testament). It got so heated that leaders had to step in and settle it (Paul recounts this in the letter to the Galatian church, 2:4-10). The conclusion was reached that the Gentile believers should not be subject to Jewish Law and this represents, in my humble opinion, the severing of The Way from traditional Jewish practices.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Giving it the benefit of the doubt, I think Judeo-Christian is primarily meant to draw attention to how both Jews and Christians, interacting with each other, drove the development of Western culture.

But why not then call it Western?
But Western basically means European, so why not call it European?

Christianity and Islam are more similar to each other in reality, but Judeo-Christian is a Biblecuck way of saying “European.”

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

So are we gonna call for banning circumcission and kosher slaughter again? 'Cause I am all down for calling for the ban of circumcission and kosher slaughter again. Fucking (((())))s should go fuck off to Israel if they want to keep doing horrifying shit.

Jokes aside. Judeo-Christian is definitely a grift term trying to claim unwarranted value to the influence of jews on the west. Spoilers, Puercos, you got treated like filthy muslims because you are equivalent to filthy muslims, we were catholic damnit and we're not gonna give you any gibbs for bullshit you didn't do. "Abrahamic" at least makes some sense in the academic sense. Judeo-Christian is definitely a grift.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Christianity is already folded into Islam, minus a few misconceptions they have about the Prophet Isa being the son of God, so really we just need to say "Islamic".

Muslim detected. Christianity has no philosophical defense of lying and deceit. There are a number of times where muhammed lied or asked his followers to lie recorded in the hadith.

Allah is also called the greatest deceiver in the quran in 3:54 and 8:30 among others. Sometimes instead it is translated as "schemer", "plotter"or even "deviser"or "planner". But the root word used is Makr. And makr is always negative and is best translated as "deception". Thus then Allah becomes the greatest deceiver.

There's also the difference of worshipping either a warlord with wives including a child and worshipping a guy who ran around with his homies telling stories and healing people.

 

[Kosher Dill]

There's also the difference of worshipping either a warlord with wives including a child and worshipping a guy who ran around with his homies telling stories and healing people.

OK, if you don't like that, we can roll Christianity up into Mormonism instead. After all, they have the corrected version of the Bible, plus all the information on the lost tribes that was missing from it.

Point is, there are plenty of religions that claim to be the successor or completion of the tradition they were based on. Jews would object just as much to being rolled into "the Christian tradition" for a number of reasons.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

OK, if you don't like that, we can roll Christianity up into Mormonism instead. After all, they have the corrected version of the Bible, plus all the information on the lost tribes that was missing from it.

That's if you don't consider the Book of Mormon heretical.

 

[Lemmingwise]

OK, if you don't like that, we can roll Christianity up into Mormonism instead. After all, they have the corrected version of the Bible, plus all the information on the lost tribes that was missing from it.

Point is, there are plenty of religions that claim to be the successor or completion of the tradition they were based on. Jews would object just as much to being rolled into "the Christian tradition" for a number of reasons.

There are jews that do object to it, so your assumption is correct.

The more politically minded and media savvy jews recognize that it works in their benefit in every country outside Israel to support the idea rather than object to it. At least publicly. In the blogs and such that are written for other jews you I have yet to come across the term "judeo christian" as a positive.

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Of course you're correct that both mormonism and islam have a kind of claim to being christianity 2.0

But you can't really roll up things into each other just because they stem from a similar source, or all life could be rolled up into each other (assuming you take the origin of species to hold true), all colors could be rolled into each other and so on and we'd have no distinctions between concepts in the first place.

 

[mr.moon1488]

The “Judeo” elements are already folded into the OT, so all you should have to say is “Christian”. There’s an (((agenda))) here.

Lots of conservative Christians think Judaism is just the OT with a few colorful holidays and therefore sympatico to them. They’re obviously wrong. The Talmud regards Christians/Goyim like the Koran regards infidels (i.e. that it’s pretty much OK to abuse them however you want).

Ironically, the OT is likely more in line with the original Jewish holy book than the Talmud, since Judaism is a rabbinical religion, which means pretty much any random fucker can alter the scripture as much as they please, so long as they reach a high enough position in the hierarchy.

 

[Lemmingwise]

You know thinking about it a little more and reading the responses it crystallized for me further how this grift works. It's like the recent changes in China that wants churches to have party approved imagery, songs and photo (Mao) included.

As people have said judeo origin is already implicit in "christianity".

But by saying "judeo-christian", one is placed before the other mentally and is associated with being more important and comparable, even though they're philosophies fundamentally at odds.

 

[Basil II]

Ironically, the OT is likely more in line with the original Jewish holy book than the Talmud, since Judaism is a rabbinical religion, which means pretty much any random fucker can alter the scripture as much as they please, so long as they reach a high enough position in the hierarchy.

I think people tend to forget how much different modern Judaism is from ancient Judaism.

 

[murdered meat bag]

its Zionist dispensationalists that uses "judeo-christianity". Christianity is judiasm fulfilled. The Jewish Messiah has come to save the cosmos. Jews and their dispensationalist allkss will whine that this is a replacement theology.

 

[Jewish Porn Hoe]

interacting with each other, drove the development of Western culture.

But that's bullshit tho. The Jewish contribution to Western culture was quite negligible until the Haskala happened and Jews were emancipated in the time between the aftermath of the French Revolution and Spring of Nations.
And the Jews who did contribute were often threatened and exiled by their community, Spinoza being the prime example.