Is The USA actually collapsing?

The growing gig economy keeps the hoi polloi busy with menial work, and the tech workers are satisfied with their magically delivered UberEats and fetish porn.

The US has never been more efficient.
 
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Geddy Lee's Fee and See said:
It took Rome 400 years to truly collapse. It'll take awhile for the US to collapse too. It certainly has ostensibly declined in pretty much every way though.
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This.

We might only be at the very beginning of the process. However bad you think things are now, there's still a long ways left to fall. Certain areas of the US may end up resembling Venezuela or Africa. But it will take a long time to get there as functional people slowly die off to be replaced by non-functional ones.
 
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I think something like the Brezhnev stagnation is a better comparison, this is a managed decline and you've got a population that matches that kind of living situation. It's all getting worse and while most people are aware of that, it's run by insane fossils.

But those insane fossils have an impressive apparatus to work with to keep a lid on things, and it's an apparatus that is still staffed to some extent by brilliant and dedicated people. Collapse? Don't hold your breath, it's got to get a lot worse before it gets better.
 
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Gangstalker #32194 said:
I think something like the Brezhnev stagnation is a better comparison, this is a managed decline and you've got a population that matches that kind of living situation. It's all getting worse and while most people are aware of that, it's run by insane fossils.

But those insane fossils have an impressive apparatus to work with to keep a lid on things, and it's an apparatus that is still staffed to some extent by brilliant and dedicated people. Collapse? Don't hold your breath, it's got to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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And when Brezhnev took over, the USSR didn't even have 30 years left. We can only hope the USA in its current state as the Great Satan has the same limited lifespan.
 
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gorgoroth7134 said:
Define collapsing?
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Yeah this for sure means different things to different readers. Sudden, apocalyptic collapse is the popular prepper-fantasy hollywood version and very unlikely. A gradual decline in living standards as everyone chases a smaller piece of the pie is way more likely, arguably already playing out for a lot of people, and nowhere near as exciting or individually mitigable.
I don't think it's too hard to get most people to agree that the boom times have drawn to a close. Taking a step further and gaining consensus that this is 'collapse' is a big stretch.
And anyway, that's a global trend. Not something specific to the USoA.
 
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Always relevant collapse doompost:
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I agree with the post above though. The rot is setting in everywhere, not much the average person can do about the big picture stuff, try to hang in there and worry about the things you have actual control over.
 
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Why the US only? Every other developed economy is built on the same central banking scheme, with the US dollar being 60% of global reserve currency.


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