Is this what Barb wanted?

[The Dude]

She has also threatened suicide to manipulate Bob and Chris. Definitely not stable behavior.

 

[CatParty]

She has also threatened suicide to manipulate Bob and Chris. Definitely not stable behavior.

she must've worked real hard on that spaghetti

 

[rocket]

She has also threatened suicide to manipulate Bob and Chris. Definitely not stable behavior.

she must've worked real hard on that spaghetti

didn't he do a spaghetti-makin' video at some point? is spaghetti the official currency of casa de chandler

edit: man it isn't even good spaghetti:

[youtube]HcKUD2Z30YI[/youtube]

 

[CatParty]

She has also threatened suicide to manipulate Bob and Chris. Definitely not stable behavior.

she must've worked real hard on that spaghetti

didn't he do a spaghetti-makin' video at some point? is spaghetti the official currency of casa de chandler

he pantomimed it. it may have been a sore subject still for him to try and cook it with her in the house

*edited to remove video haha

 

[CalmMyTits]

I would absolutely love to know more about this spaghetti incident that apparently caused Barb to stop cooking for her family.

 

[drmccoy]

I would absolutely love to know more about this spaghetti incident that apparently caused Barb to stop cooking for her family.

From what we know I can see Bob and Chris moving stuff back from Richmond, getting home later and having grabbed dinner on the way back. Barb has some spaghetti when they get home and Bob says something like "We ate already, I'm sorry" and she goes off, they get into it and she shrills that she'll never cook for this house again.

In other words, something entirely trivial that she still gets pissed over 13 years later.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I think that's all it was. They were in the middle of moving back to The Big Ruck, Barb cooked spaghetti, and for whatever reason Bob and Chris didn't want any. And McDonalds' stock price rose a nickel on that fateful day.

 

[CalmMyTits]

If barb is so willing to hold such a grudge for one incident, then this is clear that the crazy started long before the hoard.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Well, Barb wanted to grow old in peace and quiet, with no one to disturb her.

True, no one disturbs her, but no one calls on her, either.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

If barb is so willing to hold such a grudge for one incident, then this is clear that the crazy started long before the hoard.

It sounds like a grudge mixed in with an excuse. I've seen moms make meals for their visiting children who are all grown up just because it makes them feel more like a mom again. "Oh? You just ate? That doesn't sound like a proper dinner. Let me make you something!"

I wouldn't be surprised if Barb fed Cole nothing but frozen TV dinners as a kid then one day he ate over at a friends house and realized his family wasn't quite like the others. Imagine Cole's teenage years being filled with moments like that. He's probably spent all of his adult life trying way too hard to never feel that way again. So now he's a hipster douche.

The End.

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

If barb is so willing to hold such a grudge for one incident, then this is clear that the crazy started long before the hoard.

It sounds like a grudge mixed in with an excuse. I've seen moms make meals for their visiting children who are all grown up just because it makes them feel more like a mom again. "Oh? You just ate? That doesn't sound like a proper dinner. Let me make you something!"

I wouldn't be surprised if Barb fed Cole nothing but frozen TV dinners as a kid then one day he ate over at a friends house and realized his family wasn't quite like the others. Imagine Cole's teenage years being filled with moments like that. He's probably spent all of his adult life trying way too hard to never feel that way again. So now he's a hipster douche.

The End.

Hmmm, sounds about right. My Mom is a bit of a hoarder herself and I spent most of my childhood just thinking that it was normal, and it really wasn't until I started dating that the pieces snapped together and I realized how much of a dysfunctional behavior it really is.

Now I can't stand clutter and I'll almost literally follow my kids around the house with a broom and dustpan.

 

[BurtyDrappedCreifs]

I'm of the opinion that with Burb's laziness that she never really had much of a plan for him.

It's also what Chris' plans are: bang out Crystal and then.......zilch. All that matters was the procreation. Anything afterward is irrelevant (unless Crystal grows up to give him money and stuff when he's old).

 

[BALLZ-BROKEN]

If barb is so willing to hold such a grudge for one incident, then this is clear that the crazy started long before the hoard.

I've posted this before, but in [cwc]Kacey_Call_15[/cwc] Barb goes on a long-winded rant about moving back when she was trying to get Chris to clean up more. I've edited out some of Chris' and Barb's mumblings for brevity.

Barbara: [long pause] Sometimes you just like have to [muffle] let me tell you what. [muffle] I have worked for a lot in my life. Y'know a LOT, okay? And my role was [muffle] secretaries, administration [muffle] I've worked for cops, companies, publishers, um, I've [muffle] All kinds of departments and management, etc. And I've worked in different types of business. [muffle] The way they operate [muffle] and sell [muffle] an animate object or inanimate object. So I've had quite a lot of experience with serving, okay. For the total benefit of the company, in all kinds of situations. So even when you want something it gives you a sense of humility if you put yourself in a [something] role of serving. You're serving [something] issue. But it shows humility and caring that, y'know, this will help. [muffle] But there's a lot and you know what, you don't know all the stuff they do. I tell you a lot of [muffle] And each section of your life that you go through is different. Say every seven years your perspective has changed. [muffle] And you learn all you can, talk to all the people you can, uhhh. Y'know you, you learn to uh, do small work at home, um medium, house-work, outside work. It's just for your creative mind. And it makes things [muffle] Okay, and that helps you live the way you live. Like [unclear] the kitchen for instance. I'm sorry that I got sick and I've been sick for so long. Because I enjoy all the hard work you and I did bringing stuff in here. Especially the part in which [something] and then putting it back together. And who did we think about first? You and your father. First we moved your stuff and then we moved your dad's stuff. What you all use, you got that? And we all [muffle] did everything to keep what you thought you weren't gonna need any more but you left in the end of the day, until the last trip. And I'm here to tell you that I almost killed myself at least twice accidentally. I mean it was just a hairline thing that kept me from killing myself after that. One was that big chair of dad's out there [drunken slur talk] and I fell with it, going down the back steps over there. And then picking it up on the hill in the wagon, aaand it- it fell off- it fell off the wagon twice. I fell down the steps with one part of it. And it was like four or five steps. That was the worst time. Scared me, [something] me...But we allowed you to go to your gay-game. [muffle] Your father took me to that last park bench and I was there by myself, and I had all the stuff, of your father's and yours. And then mine came last. And that was one [muffle], day and night. And I was so fatigued and then I had to drive and drive and drive, to find gas 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock in the morning. Your father [muffle] out in the truck.

...

Barbara: Yeah. And then we [muffle]. Yeah we drive the [muffle] We had a hard time finding gas/dad. [muffle] He went back to get...Although we went to get the truck initially. Or when you went back to get the thing that you [muffle]. Um, he should have remembered gas but [muffle] the truck.

...

Barbara: Then I had to drive all the way home. And I was so tired [the transcriber is fucking tired.] I'm surprised that I made it. That you made it [or “then he made it”] and the next day I was trying to get some rest and your father yelled at me to get out of bed and unload that truck! Cause we had to take the truck back. [muffled, slurred] He should have told me the day before that we would have to take the truck back. [22 seconds of incomprehensible white-trash gibberish. Swear Chris said some shit about red elbows or what?] I haven't had an opportunity [gibberish] aaand I've never had an opportunity to really do the things I wanted to do, okay. We've been back nine years, I still haven't done the things I wanted to do.[Chris tries to talk] Now wait a minute, I've tried to do what I can do for most I have [skip] every day. Because of my health and because of another thing [?] I only have three hours of energy at the most. [Chris says something] Now today I did one thing that totally put me down [?] That was I brought the new wagon [?] So we can hang up in this out here and [unclear] wagon in the trash cans and and take it up to be [?]. And on top of that, another thing that upsets me is [unclear] banging away with your father yelling at me, and I was asleep. Instead of coming in and being nice and being like [unclear] It's abusive. The way he screams at me. So I won't help ya [unclear] When I tried to recharge that battery the last time I spent a long time out there.

Barbara: And!-and he was determined- he didn't want to help me. Okay? He wasn't interested.He is only interested in making things look like he did it [sounded like sheep diddle] it was his idea and I really didn't have anything to do with it. Even when I help him. I get no credit for anything. He never gives me credit to my face. Or if[?] he's talking to anybody else. Just like he tells you sometimes “well I don't get no help from your moma huuur.” No it's his own[?] attitude to- which is wrong, which is absolutely wrong.

Chris: I give you credit.

Barbara: I need you to start looking around and doing what you can do because there's a lot you could do. You are healthy and young. And you get so involved with these other things that you've been involved in- [Chris: Yeah but-] I've let you ride. I've let you ride. And now it's time that I'm going to crack down on you, and I'm going to demand that you help me everyday whether I ask you to, or not. I'm expecting you to help improve the indoors of the house and the at-

Chris: I don't know what er whya-why d-you want me to do!

Barbara: ANYTHING.

...

Barbara: Come here and look. What is it that you can clean up, straighten up, in-in your room? There's a lot you could do.

...

Barbara: Downstairs right now there's vacuuming that needs to be done, there's carpet that needs to be cleaned and there are things to be...[Chris sighs] And there are looooot of things that gotta go upstairs, or go to Good Will. [Chris sighs again]

...

Chris: Yeah but I mean where do you expect me to put- where do you expect me to put them in here, in my room?

Barbara: I didn't say put them in your room. There's a chest in that closet, there's a chest at the end of the kitchen. What- all you do is stack up stuff in the kitchen like you do in here and...We gotta, yeah neatly put things in the kitchen. But it takes two. And I have to feel like doing it. And I- I don't feel like-

Chris: B-b-buh-yut mum it's just a closet, I mean you put in the-er-whu- I already had a bunch of my stuff in there. I mean where am I gonna put that stuff downstairs? I don't know where else to put it. Especially that love doll.

Barbara: [unintelligible]

Chris: [sigh] Then it would- it- it gets hot- it gets hot in there and then it'll just [sound of Chris hitting Julay]

Barbara: Right, we need...we need to clean the tiles of the shower.

Chris: Yeah.

Barbara: In the bathroom.

Chris: Yeah we've got a lot to do, I know but-

Barbara: And re-grouting putting-the uh- removing the grout between the uh, tiles then re-grouting.

Edit: I like how when Chris brings up the love doll, even ol' spoony McMeewaw feetie rubs gets uncomfortable and tries to change the subject.

 

[Count groudon]

If barb is so willing to hold such a grudge for one incident, then this is clear that the crazy started long before the hoard.

I've posted this before, but in [cwc]Kacey_Call_15[/cwc] Barb goes on a long-winded rant about moving back when she was trying to get Chris to clean up more. I've edited out some of Chris' and Barb's mumblings for brevity.

Barbara: [long pause] Sometimes you just like have to [muffle] let me tell you what. [muffle] I have worked for a lot in my life. Y'know a LOT, okay? And my role was [muffle] secretaries, administration [muffle] I've worked for cops, companies, publishers, um, I've [muffle] All kinds of departments and management, etc. And I've worked in different types of business. [muffle] The way they operate [muffle] and sell [muffle] an animate object or inanimate object. So I've had quite a lot of experience with serving, okay. For the total benefit of the company, in all kinds of situations. So even when you want something it gives you a sense of humility if you put yourself in a [something] role of serving. You're serving [something] issue. But it shows humility and caring that, y'know, this will help. [muffle] But there's a lot and you know what, you don't know all the stuff they do. I tell you a lot of [muffle] And each section of your life that you go through is different. Say every seven years your perspective has changed. [muffle] And you learn all you can, talk to all the people you can, uhhh. Y'know you, you learn to uh, do small work at home, um medium, house-work, outside work. It's just for your creative mind. And it makes things [muffle] Okay, and that helps you live the way you live. Like [unclear] the kitchen for instance. I'm sorry that I got sick and I've been sick for so long. Because I enjoy all the hard work you and I did bringing stuff in here. Especially the part in which [something] and then putting it back together. And who did we think about first? You and your father. First we moved your stuff and then we moved your dad's stuff. What you all use, you got that? And we all [muffle] did everything to keep what you thought you weren't gonna need any more but you left in the end of the day, until the last trip. And I'm here to tell you that I almost killed myself at least twice accidentally. I mean it was just a hairline thing that kept me from killing myself after that. One was that big chair of dad's out there [drunken slur talk] and I fell with it, going down the back steps over there. And then picking it up on the hill in the wagon, aaand it- it fell off- it fell off the wagon twice. I fell down the steps with one part of it. And it was like four or five steps. That was the worst time. Scared me, [something] me...But we allowed you to go to your gay-game. [muffle] Your father took me to that last park bench and I was there by myself, and I had all the stuff, of your father's and yours. And then mine came last. And that was one [muffle], day and night. And I was so fatigued and then I had to drive and drive and drive, to find gas 2 o'clock or 3 o'clock in the morning. Your father [muffle] out in the truck.

...

Barbara: Yeah. And then we [muffle]. Yeah we drive the [muffle] We had a hard time finding gas/dad. [muffle] He went back to get...Although we went to get the truck initially. Or when you went back to get the thing that you [muffle]. Um, he should have remembered gas but [muffle] the truck.

...

Barbara: Then I had to drive all the way home. And I was so tired [the transcriber is fucking tired.] I'm surprised that I made it. That you made it [or “then he made it”] and the next day I was trying to get some rest and your father yelled at me to get out of bed and unload that truck! Cause we had to take the truck back. [muffled, slurred] He should have told me the day before that we would have to take the truck back. [22 seconds of incomprehensible white-trash gibberish. Swear Chris said some shit about red elbows or what?] I haven't had an opportunity [gibberish] aaand I've never had an opportunity to really do the things I wanted to do, okay. We've been back nine years, I still haven't done the things I wanted to do.[Chris tries to talk] Now wait a minute, I've tried to do what I can do for most I have [skip] every day. Because of my health and because of another thing [?] I only have three hours of energy at the most. [Chris says something] Now today I did one thing that totally put me down [?] That was I brought the new wagon [?] So we can hang up in this out here and [unclear] wagon in the trash cans and and take it up to be [?]. And on top of that, another thing that upsets me is [unclear] banging away with your father yelling at me, and I was asleep. Instead of coming in and being nice and being like [unclear] It's abusive. The way he screams at me. So I won't help ya [unclear] When I tried to recharge that battery the last time I spent a long time out there.

Barbara: And!-and he was determined- he didn't want to help me. Okay? He wasn't interested.He is only interested in making things look like he did it [sounded like sheep diddle] it was his idea and I really didn't have anything to do with it. Even when I help him. I get no credit for anything. He never gives me credit to my face. Or if[?] he's talking to anybody else. Just like he tells you sometimes “well I don't get no help from your moma huuur.” No it's his own[?] attitude to- which is wrong, which is absolutely wrong.

Chris: I give you credit.

Barbara: I need you to start looking around and doing what you can do because there's a lot you could do. You are healthy and young. And you get so involved with these other things that you've been involved in- [Chris: Yeah but-] I've let you ride. I've let you ride. And now it's time that I'm going to crack down on you, and I'm going to demand that you help me everyday whether I ask you to, or not. I'm expecting you to help improve the indoors of the house and the at-

Chris: I don't know what er whya-why d-you want me to do!

Barbara: ANYTHING.

...

Barbara: Come here and look. What is it that you can clean up, straighten up, in-in your room? There's a lot you could do.

...

Barbara: Downstairs right now there's vacuuming that needs to be done, there's carpet that needs to be cleaned and there are things to be...[Chris sighs] And there are looooot of things that gotta go upstairs, or go to Good Will. [Chris sighs again]

...

Chris: Yeah but I mean where do you expect me to put- where do you expect me to put them in here, in my room?

Barbara: I didn't say put them in your room. There's a chest in that closet, there's a chest at the end of the kitchen. What- all you do is stack up stuff in the kitchen like you do in here and...We gotta, yeah neatly put things in the kitchen. But it takes two. And I have to feel like doing it. And I- I don't feel like-

Chris: B-b-buh-yut mum it's just a closet, I mean you put in the-er-whu- I already had a bunch of my stuff in there. I mean where am I gonna put that stuff downstairs? I don't know where else to put it. Especially that love doll.

Barbara: [unintelligible]

Chris: [sigh] Then it would- it- it gets hot- it gets hot in there and then it'll just [sound of Chris hitting Julay]

Barbara: Right, we need...we need to clean the tiles of the shower.

Chris: Yeah.

Barbara: In the bathroom.

Chris: Yeah we've got a lot to do, I know but-

Barbara: And re-grouting putting-the uh- removing the grout between the uh, tiles then re-grouting.

Edit: I like how when Chris brings up the love doll, even ol' spoony McMeewaw feetie rubs gets uncomfortable and tries to change the subject.

God daaaaamn, barb sounds like a demented whiney bitch! Pardon my A-logging

 

[CalmMyTits]

I have to say that this gives me a slightly better opinion of Barb. Not much, though, given her tendencies to rewrite history, such as what happened with Roach, but if there is any inkling of truth in how much work she claimed she did and how Bob was mean to her, I CAN feel sorry for her just a tiny little bit.

It's kind of funny how she bitches at Chris about cleaning but then refused to let Bob or Chris clean the hoard.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

I particularly enjoyed this:

"I didn't say put them in your room. There's a chest in that closet, there's a chest at the end of the kitchen. What- all you do is stack up stuff in the kitchen like you do in here and...We gotta, yeah neatly put things in the kitchen. But it takes two. And I have to feel like doing it. And I- I don't feel like-"

She's all like "You do it. I'd help, but I'm...don't want to."

 

[PickleTron7000]

To her credit, she is very old. She likely doesn't have the energy to even begin to undo what has been done in that house, and I think that her whole point was that this able bodied young man regularly contributes to the mess.

But then, I remember who I'm talking about here, and.. Yeah.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Barb's words basically amount to her pleading with Chris to contribute some goddamn help around the house and earn his keep. Chris basically makes it clear that he finds such a request unreasonable.

Maybe Barb went insane from years of Chris being so absurdly selfish, and part of her warped mind said "let's let the house turn into a hoarding hell hole so that my idiot son can suffer the consequences of his selfishness".

 

[sparklemilhouse]

I think this is the most confusing part of her rant:

>>.But we allowed you to go to your gay-game. [muffle] Your father took me to that last park bench and I was there by myself, and I had all the stuff, of your father's and yours.<<

What game? What park bench? What a strange place to stay.

 

[drmccoy]

Was she drunk during this? Christ, she's near incomprehensible.