‘It now feels as though I am on my own’ - Trans-man discovers being a man is more difficult than she imagined

‘It now feels as though I am on my own’​

Zander Keig, 52, San Diego

Coast Guard veteran. Works at Naval Medical Center San Diego as a clinical social work case manager. Editor of anthologies about transgender men. Started transition in 2005.

Prior to my transition, I was an outspoken radical feminist. I spoke up often, loudly and with confidence. I was encouraged to speak up. I was given awards for my efforts, literally — it was like, “Oh, yeah, speak up, speak out.” When I speak up now, I am often given the direct or indirect message that I am “mansplaining,” “taking up too much space” or “asserting my white male heterosexual privilege.” Never mind that I am a first-generation Mexican American, a transsexual man, and married to the same woman I was with prior to my transition.

I find the assertion that I am now unable to speak out on issues I find important offensive and I refuse to allow anyone to silence me. My ability to empathize has grown exponentially, because I now factor men into my thinking and feeling about situations. Prior to my transition, I rarely considered how men experienced life or what they thought, wanted or liked about their lives. I have learned so much about the lives of men through my friendships with men, reading books and articles by and for men and through the men I serve as a licensed clinical social worker.

Social work is generally considered to be “female dominated,” with women making up about 80 percent of the profession in the United States. Currently I work exclusively with clinical nurse case managers, but in my previous position, as a medical social worker working with chronically homeless military veterans — mostly male — who were grappling with substance use disorder and severe mental illness, I was one of a few men among dozens of women.

Zander Keig, a Coast Guard veteran and a board member for the Transgender American Veterans Association, attends its meeting in Washington.
Plenty of research shows that life events, medical conditions and family circumstances impact men and women differently. But when I would suggest that patient behavioral issues like anger or violence may be a symptom of trauma or depression, it would often get dismissed or outright challenged. The overarching theme was “men are violent” and there was “no excuse” for their actions.

I do notice that some women do expect me to acquiesce or concede to them more now: Let them speak first, let them board the bus first, let them sit down first, and so on. I also notice that in public spaces men are more collegial with me, which they express through verbal and nonverbal messages: head lifting when passing me on the sidewalk and using terms like “brother” and “boss man” to acknowledge me. As a former lesbian feminist, I was put off by the way that some women want to be treated by me, now that I am a man, because it violates a foundational belief I carry, which is that women are fully capable human beings who do not need men to acquiesce or concede to them.


What continues to strike me is the significant reduction in friendliness and kindness now extended to me in public spaces. It now feels as though I am on my own: No one, outside of family and close friends, is paying any attention to my well-being.

I can recall a moment where this difference hit home. A couple of years into my medical gender transition, I was traveling on a public bus early one weekend morning. There were six people on the bus, including me. One was a woman. She was talking on a mobile phone very loudly and remarked that “men are such a–holes.” I immediately looked up at her and then around at the other men. Not one had lifted his head to look at the woman or anyone else. The woman saw me look at her and then commented to the person she was speaking with about “some a–hole on the bus right now looking at me.” I was stunned, because I recall being in similar situations, but in the reverse, many times: A man would say or do something deemed obnoxious or offensive, and I would find solidarity with the women around me as we made eye contact, rolled our eyes and maybe even commented out loud on the situation. I’m not sure I understand why the men did not respond, but it made a lasting impression on me.


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women cut hands for attention. why are men jumping from the roofs?

*crimes committed by men

it's called prison

factually false. and is the working father gonna take care or work

in wars started by men

not true in the current economy. and the main earner becomes the shotcaller of the major decisions of the family unit. do men agree to be subservient?

everyone deals with their shit on own. what else do you expect? license to do mass shootings?
and if someone's entire personality is being the short fat man, people are gonna notice that first.... learn some skills or get a goddamn face tattoo
You are so out of touch, it’s mind-boggling. Feminism is one hell of a drug.
 
women cut hands for attention. why are men jumping from the roofs?

*crimes committed by men

it's called prison

factually false. and is the working father gonna take care or work

in wars started by men

not true in the current economy. and the main earner becomes the shotcaller of the major decisions of the family unit. do men agree to be subservient?

everyone deals with their shit on own. what else do you expect? license to do mass shootings?
and if someone's entire personality is being the short fat man, people are gonna notice that first.... learn some skills or get a goddamn face tattoo
You can tell it's a woman or PHD level larper by the way every single male issue has to either be ignored, mocked, minimized or deflected back around to remind everyone that women really really have it much worse in every possible way, in fact women are the only ones with any struggles of note period.
 
This part really cracked me up. What exactly did she think was going on here? Men don't care about some dumb bitch yapping on their phone. Why didn't the men show 'solidarity'? Why didn't the men 'respond'? How, exactly? Should they all have gotten up, come to where this weirdo was sitting, and hugged her while saying, you are valid, you are loved? She has no idea how men live, how they feel, how they respond to the world. 'He' might have a few outward trappings of masculinity, like the beard, but it's just a costume.
Another on the list of reasons beards are gay and for manlets without jawlines.
bruh all women don't yearn for sugar daddies & shopping. that's like saying neets represent all men
there are countless problems exclusive to being a woman. for example can't sit in peace for a moment without some fella asking your name in an attempt to hit on you
Shit men create shit women. It’s a cycle that perpetuates farther with time. Shit women create shit men too so don’t think you are without the blame if you are a woman.

It starts at home. The world has become much worse since divorce rates have skyrocketed because people don’t know what a functional relationship looks like. Boys see their dads cheat on their moms and girls see their moms divorce rape their dads and the cycle continues.
 
While I hope this is something that you don't think yourself, this is a lie that must be debunked. Men are not disposable, not now, not before, not ever. They are, in fact the most important factor for a functioning society, rural or urban, settled or nomadic, agriculturalist or pastoralist. They are responsible for food procurement, for defense, for the arts, trade ventures, sciences and even language was started by men.

This diminishing sense of brotherhood, of hatred towards males, I'm not sure exactly how it started, I don't doubt it always existed, but the current sentiment and outright disgust towards men are something that have never existed prior to our days.

Men are not disposable, expendable, replaceable - to think otherwise is anti-male garbage and absolute misandry.
I didn't take Secret Asshole's comment to mean all men are disposable, I took it to mean that... how do I put this? Men have historically gone through a much tighter bottleneck than women have.

I have wondered before if humans aren't "naturally" polygynous, where a rich man might have 5 wives, a middle class man might have 1 wife, and a poor man is SOL. Even in non-polygynous societies, male primogeniture meant that if you're the third son of a third son, you may as well join the army or become a priest because you're not going to have the resources to support a family, at least not as a young man.

Even the most butt-ugly woman can find some man somewhere who is willing to give her a place to live in exchange for nutting in her occasionally, but the inverse is not true.
 
in wars started by men

Have you heard of Sherman's March to the Sea? One of the main motivators was Sherman understood that Southern honor culture was built on the approval of women, and that a man would rather march to certain death than be called a coward by a woman. The Southern woman was at home, in comfort, while the Southern man was off rotting in a ditch somewhere. Thus, he realized that if he brought the suffering to women, that if the southern gentlewoman had her manor burned, her slaves run off, and her larder looted, her opinion on the war would turn quickly, and the War Between the States would end.

Of course, he was correct.
 
I didn't take Secret Asshole's comment to mean all men are disposable, I took it to mean that... how do I put this? Men have historically gone through a much tighter bottleneck than women have.

I have wondered before if humans aren't "naturally" polygynous, where a rich man might have 5 wives, a middle class man might have 1 wife, and a poor man is SOL. Even in non-polygynous societies, male primogeniture meant that if you're the third son of a third son, you may as well join the army or become a priest because you're not going to have the resources to support a family, at least not as a young man.

Even the most butt-ugly woman can find some man somewhere who is willing to give her a place to live in exchange for nutting in her occasionally, but the inverse is not true.
Inheritance depended on the kind of society you were in. We just naturally ended up going first son gets everything because the more resources you have, the more resources you tend to acquire and retain in place of splitting it up.

Polygamy is a clusterfuck disaster waiting to happen, tribal or not. Just look at what the Ottomans did to stop the constant succession wars.
 
I have wondered before if humans aren't "naturally" polygynous, where a rich man might have 5 wives, a middle class man might have 1 wife, and a poor man is SOL. Even in non-polygynous societies, male primogeniture meant that if you're the third son of a third son, you may as well join the army or become a priest because you're not going to have the resources to support a family, at least not as a young man.
There's a reason why Christianity emphasizes the whole "one man, one woman, one flesh" thing. Sure, one dude with a harem of five women could rotate keeping a bun in the oven, but poor guys have a drive to pass on their genes too. And there's always more poor men than rich men. So if enough poor men have enough issues with the local lord, Lord Faffington IVth and his harem AND all the children AND the servants will all get lovely new hemp neckties. Women work as stabilizers for men same as men work as stabilizers for women, it's just in different ways. Thus, society continues and we don't have hordes of incels with Giga Chad proportions pillaging the countryside while women let their out of control emotions drive them insane.

By the way, if you want an example of what happens to women without men in their lives, just check Tiktok.
 
Have you heard of Sherman's March to the Sea? One of the main motivators was Sherman understood that Southern honor culture was built on the approval of women, and that a man would rather march to certain death than be called a coward by a woman. The Southern woman was at home, in comfort, while the Southern man was off rotting in a ditch somewhere. Thus, he realized that if he brought the suffering to women, that if the southern gentlewoman had her manor burned, her slaves run off, and her larder looted, her opinion on the war would turn quickly, and the War Between the States would end.

Of course, he was correct.
That reminds me of the white feathers.

I almost forgot that women instigate wars, too.
 
Women can be good or they can be bad but mostly women are just hanging out not changing anything, just keeping on.

Men are either improving your life or they are making problems. That's why it's so barren and unpleasant to be male among strangers. Men need to prove that they're not a problem to be accepted as human, women just have to show up.
 
You have half a many male ancestors than female ancestors, roughly.

Up until pretty recent human history, it was common for a conquering tribe/nation to slaughter most of the surviving men not in trades and force the women into marriage.
War as an affair with rules is such a stupidly modern way of thinking about things. I think a lot of people think of war and about the rules of engagement, but those go right out the window when you are actually in combat I would imagine. This is the natural way, the strong slaughter the weak.

This is why you should fight to the last man. This is why Ukraine was trying to keep all the men within their borders and why any man that fled Ukraine should be savagely mocked for not living up to the standards laid down by his ancestors. I say this as a man - I would expect relentless mocking too if my country was invaded by a hostile foreign power and I ran away.

There is a natural order to things and there are reasons our ancestors did things the way they did. There is a reason for "gender roles and norms" and there is a reason that women have never been subjected to a draft. The problem with gender relations is the breakdown in expectations for women and men. Men expect to be able to get married and have kids so they stop when they find out it is not in the cards for them due to things like dating apps putting them in the absolute bottom of the barrel.

Most people are too weak to go out and meet people the old fashioned way too, so I put that failure as much on men as it is on women. However, a lot of women have an inflated opinion of themselves due to weak men putting them on a pedestal. All this girlboss shit wouldn't mean a thing if there wasn't a man to put them on a pedestal and worship the ground they walk on.
 
Meanwhile, I show up at a jobsite and I can feel the dynamic change because I am there. I can dress like a man, banter like a man, but I will never be a man, and that's how shit is.
IME, whenever a whamen shows up on the jobsite, most of us routinely ignore them because they’re usually there as an engie/architect, point of contact with the client, or they work for Sunbelt and they’re trying to get us to rent equipment (lol good luck). All of that means they usually are there to interact with the Contractor Lords, and the rest of us Minions have nothing to do with that stuff unless someone on the office side of things fucked up on engineering the job or on the take-off sheet (many such cases! Sad!)

/PL
 
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