Off-Topic It's about ethics in paypiggery and a-logging! - And animated pink rabbit png files.

[The First Fag]

I am no fan of Ralph, but skanks like Alice can't get raped, no different than any other whoreish chick. If your blacking out around characters like ralph and ip2, and then getting double teamed by strangers, your just a whore. YOU CAN NOT RAPE WHORES.

I don't know about the rest of you bitchass faggots but this one here is a case of retardation that puts me to shame. Rape can happen to literally anyone. You, me, your mom (who is probably disappointed in you), your neighbor, the homeless crackhead sifting through my trash, anyone. Whether or not you are a whore has literally nothing to do with your capability to get raped. Literally none. I'm personally surprised you aren't a Ralph fan considering you two sound so alike it's jarring.

I have never once asked for consent. Its always just assumed in the situation, by that I mean we both knew what the situation was going to lead to. Back in the long long ago when people could effectively communicate without everything being some e drama trash. To the point of serial killer killing sluts, who cares? maybe don't be a slut. If women can't understand that prostitution and general skankery is in fact dangerous, its not my problem. I don't want serial killers or whores around my community.

This take is so retarded I can feel my DNA devolving the longer I look at this. This is like saying that if you don't want to be robbed you shouldn't carry any money or that if you don't want Uncle Jerry to molest your daughter you shouldn't put her in a dress. It's a belittling and moronic way of shifting the blame to the victim. Now sure, it would help if maybe they would stop sucking cock at any given opportunity, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't punish actual wrongdoers. The point I'm attempting to make is that if they wanna rape or kill you, they're gonna do it. You are attempting to fix the problem by addressing a small manifestation or facet of the problem. It's the same shit I say to gun-control activists.

In regards to why people should care if Becky the hooker gets killed in the streets, we should care because:

1. Becky the hooker is still a human being
2. It is generally frowned upon to kill someone for no reason

You're trying to minimalize the issue by dehumanizing the victim. It's the same sort of shit the pro-abortion activists do when they try to justify why they should be able to kill developing children and it is just as retarded when you do it as it is when they do it. The fact that I, a retarded faggot on a site for retarded faggots, feels the urge to explain something as common-sense as this should tell you something. I don't want serial killers or whores in my community either but this is not the way of going about it. You retard.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I am no fan of Ralph, but skanks like Alice can't get raped, no different than any other whoreish chick. If your blacking out around characters like ralph and ip2, and then getting double teamed by strangers, your just a whore. YOU CAN NOT RAPE WHORES.

This is definitely how Ralph thinks as he has made clear. I’m inclined to think there was half a gram of coke involved in addition to her wishlist, given his ranting. He thinks the fact he spent money on her and she drank with him meant she owed him sex. He wasn’t strong enough to stick a rag in her mouth and hold her down to rape her so he had to pull a Bill Cosby and wait until she passed out to do it.

People tend to forget how angry the Gunt was that Alice repeatedly made it very clear in her texts that she was not interested in fucking him.

Serial killers and other predators like to choose whores because they are easy prey. They are less likely to be believed. The perfect prey is someone with no credibility. No one is looking out for them, people only abuse them.

Whore or not consent still has to be given. No consent = rape. I am surprised you’re not a fan of Ralph considering you both share the same philosophy.

Ironically Alice thought she was safe around the Gunt because of Pantsu. She thought if she was friends with Pantsu the Gunt would back off. Quite a few serial killers used their girlfriends to help their victims get in the car or come over. Their victims felt a false sense of safety due to the other woman being there.

Gunt definitely used Pantsu as a way to get Alice to put down her guard. Poor girl actually believed they were a normal couple starting a family so “hanging out” was okay and not just Ralph trying to fuck her.

It also demonstrates that Gunt thinks Rozy is leverage that gives Pantsu no choice but to put up with his rank shit.

Pantsu was very proud of Digi paying her way in that pedo procurement ad. It’s just funny a woman who’s goal was for a man to support her ends up living worse than a single mom on welfare. The ghetto standard of living between Pantsu and welfare mom might be similar but the single welfare mom doesn’t have to be humiliated or raged at by Gunt to have a mattress to sleep on.

 

[NahtzeeSmurf]

If I went into a black neighborhood wearing a white hood screaming, "Nigger, nigger, nigger," at the top of my lungs, I'd probably get beaten to death.

Who's at fault?

Well, me, for being a fucking retard trying to an hero myself. But, the fellows who took the bait and have my blood on their hands? They could have turned the other cheek and walked away. They are just as at fault.

This is basically the "slut shaming," idea put in a different context. Alice puts herself in these bullshit situations, where something bad is inevitably going to happen. Drink yourself passed out drunk in front of a guy like Ethan Ralph? What do you expect to happen? Same thing when the "slut shaming," meme became a thing, some cop just pointed out that if women are going to dress in a provocative manner in public and get blind drunk, shits going to happen.

The best term might be "double guilt," the victim for creating a situation, and the culprit for taking the bait and debasing themselves.

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

If I went into a black neighborhood wearing a white hood screaming, "Nigger, nigger, nigger," at the top of my lungs, I'd probably get beaten to death.

Who's at fault?

Well, me, for being a fucking retard trying to an hero myself. But, the fellows who took the bait and have my blood on their hands? They could have turned the other cheek and walked away. They are just as at fault.

This is basically the "slut shaming," idea put in a different context. Alice puts herself in these bullshit situations, where something bad is inevitably going to happen. Drink yourself passed out drunk in front of a guy like Ethan Ralph? What do you expect to happen? Same thing when the "slut shaming," meme became a thing, some cop just pointed out that if women are going to dress in a provocative manner in public and get blind drunk, shits going to happen.

The best term might be "double guilt," the victim for creating a situation, and the culprit for taking the bait and debasing themselves.

Going into a black neighborhood and yelling nigger is completely different than telling someone and his girlfriend you don't want to fuck them, but you want to be friends and stream together only to get mouth raped.

 

[High Tea]

If I went into a black neighborhood wearing a white hood screaming, "Nigger, nigger, nigger," at the top of my lungs, I'd probably get beaten to death.

Who's at fault?

Well, me, for being a fucking retard trying to an hero myself. But, the fellows who took the bait and have my blood on their hands? They could have turned the other cheek and walked away. They are just as at fault.

This is basically the "slut shaming," idea put in a different context. Alice puts herself in these bullshit situations, where something bad is inevitably going to happen. Drink yourself passed out drunk in front of a guy like Ethan Ralph? What do you expect to happen? Same thing when the "slut shaming," meme became a thing, some cop just pointed out that if women are going to dress in a provocative manner in public and get blind drunk, shits going to happen.

The best term might be "double guilt," the victim for creating a situation, and the culprit for taking the bait and debasing themselves.

Ethan Ralph, out of the kindness of his heart, spent hundreds of dollars on a girl known for sleeping with virtually anyone but won't spend a dollar on his own flesh and blood. She shouldn't be raped, but should have anticipated he would ask for an exchange. She went to Las Vegas and something happened with her, Ralph and Dax. The dm implication was sex and acid. If she visited Ralph's home, why would Pantsu protect her when she assisted with Faith's treatment? What Ralph did was unforgivable. She judges men terribly.

 

[NahtzeeSmurf]

Going into a black neighborhood and yelling nigger is completely different than telling someone and his girlfriend you don't want to fuck them, but you want to be friends and stream together only to get mouth raped.

Well yeah, it's like it's completely different to give your life savings to someone shady for a bitcoin investment as opposed to drinking a pint of bourbon at a bar ten miles from home before getting behind the wheel.

 

[The First Fag]

If I went into a black neighborhood wearing a white hood screaming, "Nigger, nigger, nigger," at the top of my lungs, I'd probably get beaten to death.

Who's at fault?

Well, me, for being a fucking retard trying to an hero myself. But, the fellows who took the bait and have my blood on their hands? They could have turned the other cheek and walked away. They are just as at fault.

This is basically the "slut shaming," idea put in a different context. Alice puts herself in these bullshit situations, where something bad is inevitably going to happen. Drink yourself passed out drunk in front of a guy like Ethan Ralph? What do you expect to happen? Same thing when the "slut shaming," meme became a thing, some cop just pointed out that if women are going to dress in a provocative manner in public and get blind drunk, shits going to happen.

The best term might be "double guilt," the victim for creating a situation, and the culprit for taking the bait and debasing themselves.

This. I think the big point of contention I have now is "who is more guilty" or "who is more to blame" and the true warrior in me thinks the answer here is Ralph. For those who give enough of a shit, I will explain.

Is Alice a thot? Yes. Does she put herself in situations that lead to her being victimized and abused? Yes. Should she get a little bit of shit for her poor decisions? Yes. Does she deserve to be victimized and abused? No. Yes, whoring yourself around like this is not a good lifestyle decision. I don't think I need to or should have to tell you that. But the only person that whoring yourself around hurts is you (STDs or STIs notwithstanding). By contrast, taking advantage of someone who is in a vulnerable position and is unable to fight back hurts the other motherfucker a hell of a lot more than it hurts you. If these allegations are to be believed (and I don't see much a reason to believe there is no kernel of truth to them), Ralph has hurt someone in a manner far worse than he had before with Adrienne Blair and Gator and nearly everyone else he has associated himself with. Even Faith with the sextape isn't as bad (arguably) as this shit.

A big point of contention that I had with @Arealsomalipirate and his genetically deficient take is that you're pinning too much blame on one party and not enough on the other. In his case, Alice. The same goes for people who pin the blame solely on Ralph and fail to take into consideration that Alice put herself in a vulnerable position with someone who is well know for abusing people (i.e. Ralph). In this case, Alice shares some of blame here for putting herself in that position and not taking precautions to protect herself. Not a whole lot of blame since she didn't want to believe Ralph would go that far (and I don't blame her I was in the same boat), but still some.

Do I want to see Ralph get what he deserves for doing this shit (assuming the allegations are wholly or mostly true)? Absolutely. Do I realistically think it's gonna happen? No. Do I want it to be this way? Fuck no. A big problem in this #MeToo era is that now it is a lot harder to take any credible allegation of sexual misconduct seriously because there are so many bullshit ones floating around. And Alice's case here is no different. She has a history of whoring around and mental illness, which means that her testimony by itself is worth even less than a normal woman her age.

I dunno bros. I guess the only thing that I can say conclusively is that this situation is beyond fucked and that it is sad that nothing is really gonna come from it that will be worth the effort. The only thing that I can realistically hope for here is that Alice drops more evidence that at least confirms that Ralph did this beyond a reasonable doubt and that Ralph doesn't do this shit again. But the true warriors on this site know that neither of those are realistically gonna happen. Which saddens and frightens me and should sadden/frighten you as well.

 

[GayestFurryTrash]

Dude, it’s absolute bullshit that reporting a rape will boomerang on you if you’re telling the truth.

It’s to the point that hookers call the cops when Johns don’t pay, and the hooker has legal shelter from self incrimination.

Nobody would care if she was high as shit, was holding, etc.. You don’t get strip searched for filing a complaint. That’s some kind of lefty brain rot you have there

I didn't say it would boomerang on her if she reported, her status as a drug addicted retard is part of the reason why. She's likely not the biggest fan of the police to begin with, and more to the point the IP2 retards she associates with will not want her too and will pressure her not to. To add to that, in the rest of the post you didn't read she has only her word that this happened, Ralph's creepy texts and his hilariously sad simping. So if she goes to the police what the fuck are they going to do? It's not like Alice's word and Ralph being a creepy loser are enough for a search warrant and even if they got one unless Ralph filmed himself facefucking her what else could they find.

I'm in the same camp as you wanting her to report it anyway because it would be hilarious.

Never did I say she would face any consequence for reporting what happened, I was just saying if she did it wouldn't go anywhere and it's unlikely she will because she's an idiot and her degenerate IP2 friends will convince her not to.

 

[Sam Losco]

Stupid fucking debates again. Thread locked. If there is actually new information concerning this topic, DM myself or @AltisticRight to unlock it, ask in the Senate thread, or make a post in Talk to Staff.

 

[AltisticRight]

I'll just broom all the gay bickering to that morality sperging dumpster later.
Reminder that your post might have ended up there because it was a response, doesn't mean you've done something wrong or whatever.

 

[Arealsomalipirate]

If I went into a black neighborhood wearing a white hood screaming, "Nigger, nigger, nigger," at the top of my lungs, I'd probably get beaten to death.

Who's at fault?

Well, me, for being a fucking retard trying to an hero myself. But, the fellows who took the bait and have my blood on their hands? They could have turned the other cheek and walked away. They are just as at fault.

This is basically the "slut shaming," idea put in a different context. Alice puts herself in these bullshit situations, where something bad is inevitably going to happen. Drink yourself passed out drunk in front of a guy like Ethan Ralph? What do you expect to happen? Same thing when the "slut shaming," meme became a thing, some cop just pointed out that if women are going to dress in a provocative manner in public and get blind drunk, shits going to happen.

The best term might be "double guilt," the victim for creating a situation, and the culprit for taking the bait and debasing themselves.

This was exactly my initial point, stupid games stupid prizes. in specific Alice knew like everyone else that Ralph and pantsu were bad news. The same thing she did with her "totally raped " my the junkie and mulatto. She only came out after for the simpathy. she sucked the memphis micro for some shitty coke, end of story.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

Ralph confirmed in the Chrissie Mayr stream that "it isn't simping if you get something in return". Confirming they had some form of relations...

Why was this post moved from the Alice rape claim thread?

 

[Kinochet]

Why was this post moved from the Alice rape claim thread?

collateral damage in ahoggin' gone wrong

 

[MeltyTW]

Ralph confirmed in the Chrissie Mayr stream that "it isn't simping if you get something in return". Confirming they had some form of relations...

some form of nonconsensual relations

This was exactly my initial point, stupid games stupid prizes. in specific Alice knew like everyone else that Ralph and pantsu were bad news. The same thing she did with her "totally raped " my the junkie and mulatto. She only came out after for the simpathy. she sucked the memphis micro for some shitty coke, end of story.

more accurately phrased she put herself in a situation where ralph could do something to her to grift him and the audience and ralph happened to choose to rape her.
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The best term might be "double guilt," the victim for creating a situation, and the culprit for taking the bait and debasing themselves.

if it were a normal guy id say it was wrong to scam him and lead him on but i think ralph just deserves it and should have accepted his place as a beta paypig cuck and not as a rapist

 

[Arealsomalipirate]

Serial killers and other predators like to choose whores because they are easy prey. They are less likely to be believed. The perfect prey is someone with no credibility. No one is looking out for them, people only abuse them.

Whore or not consent still has to be given. No consent = rape. I am surprised you’re not a fan of Ralph considering you both share the same philosophy.

The consent was a gram of shitty coke. Stop simping for a litersl egirl. The amount of assmad to my statements is unreal. a 13yr old being violently raped is not the same as this nonsense. keep throwing hats and negative shit, it doesn't change the fact. If you put yourself in a bad spot no sympathy.

 

[MeltyTW]

The consent was a gram of shitty coke.

.... thats not how consent works.

Stop simping for a litersl egirl. The amount of assmad to my statements is unreal.

all he did was just lay out objective facts. the only contentious statement was him stating that he thinks its rape. otherwise its just all objectively true. people who want to bypass informed consent (or whatever word youd use, trying to catch women off guard to be more neutral?) by chasing people who will not be believed by people like you and you are alot closer to ralphs philosophy if you think thats okay.

If you put yourself in a bad spot no sympathy.

youre the one saying ethan ralph is innocent which is far less a sympathetic point no matter how you slice it

 

[AltisticRight]

Why was this post moved from the Alice rape claim thread?

Alright, moved it back with some modification to the original quoted post.

 

[Begemot]

I have never once asked for consent. Its always just assumed in the situation, by that I mean we both knew what the situation was going to lead to. Back in the long long ago when people could effectively communicate without everything being some e drama trash. To the point of serial killer killing sluts, who cares? maybe don't be a slut. If women can't understand that prostitution and general skankery is in fact dangerous, its not my problem. I don't want serial killers or whores around my community.

This is good bait.

 

[The First Fag]

The consent was a gram of shitty coke. Stop simping for a litersl egirl. The amount of assmad to my statements is unreal. a 13yr old being violently raped is not the same as this nonsense. keep throwing hats and negative shit, it doesn't change the fact. If you put yourself in a bad spot no sympathy.

I thought the first moggings were enough but I am apparently wrong. I don't know what ass-backwards fucktarded planet you come from but the trade of drugs is not nor should it ever be enough for consent for sex. You fucking faggot. The demographics of the victim don't matter much in cases like these because someone is being victimized when they can't fight back. We should still feel at least some modicum of sympathy here because she could have been your family member, your kid, your friend. I'm guessing you never had those or had any friends you'd give a shit about if this your outlook.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I am no fan of Ralph, but skanks like Alice can't get raped, no different than any other whoreish chick. If your blacking out around characters like ralph and ip2, and then getting double teamed by strangers, your just a whore. YOU CAN NOT RAPE WHORES.

Bruh.
You're saying the quiet bit out loud.
I get what you're trying to say (I think) but jfc bro theres a better way to put it than that.

Is Alice a thot? Yes. Does she put herself in situations that lead to her being victimized and abused? Yes. Should she get a little bit of shit for her poor decisions? Yes. Does she deserve to be victimized and abused? No.

Well put.