'It’s helping save lives' | Vehicles will soon have built-in sensors to prevent drunk driving


INDIANAPOLIS — Researchers say they've figured out a way to practically eliminate drunk driving. They have developed alcohol detection sensors that will be soon be launched on American roads for the first time. And within a few years, the technology could be ready to install in the vehicles of millions of American drivers.

But are American drivers ready for the technology?

The question is now taking on new urgency as program developers prepare to license the sensors and Congress considers legislation that could make alcohol prevention technology mandatory in all new cars and trucks.

The potential impact of these sensors would be dramatic, with thousands of lives and billions of dollars at stake.

Out of the laboratory. Onto the highway.​

13News was among the first media outlets in the nation allowed inside the Boston-area lab where scientists are developing the Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety, better known as DADSS. It’s where researchers have been teaching cars how to detect if a driver is legally drunk by using embedded sensors that measure a driver’s blood alcohol level. If that level is above a certain threshold, the car won’t start.

DADSS engineers are developing two different types of technology. The first captures your breath and pulls it into a sensor, where a beam of infrared light then calculates your precise blood alcohol concentration.

The second technology features a touch-based system built into a car's ignition button or gear shift. It uses tiny lasers to shine a beam of light onto your finger, and that special light reads the alcohol level below your skin's surface.

Unlike an ignition interlock system, which some courts mandate for convicted drunk drivers, the DADSS system does not require a driver to take specific actions. The system is designed to quietly and unobtrusively collect measurements.

“The challenge that we have is to measure alcohol content or blood alcohol concentration very accurately, very precisely and very fast,” explained Bud Zaouk, a DADSS program manager who gave 13News a behind-the-scenes tour of the research lab in 2015. “You have to do the measurement, the reading, and decision whether this person can move the vehicle or not move the vehicle very quickly. Our goal is less than half a second, 325 milliseconds to be specific -- less than the blink of an eye. The idea here is we do not want to inconvenience the driver.”

The above video is a promotional video from Automotive Coalition for Traffic Safety demonstrates how the DADSS system works.

Since WTHR’s visit six years ago, researchers have been making the sensors smaller and more accurate. The technology, which has been in development for more than a decade, has now advanced to the point where it can soon be licensed for installation into commercial fleet vehicles. Later this year, trucking, bus and taxi companies will be able to use DADSS sensors in their vehicles to ensure their drivers are alcohol-free on the job.

“It’s a big deal because it’s the final corner we need to round towards ultimately being able to offer this technology to all consumers,” explained Rob Strassburger, president of the Automotive Coalition for Traffic Safety (ACTS), a non-profit group that’s been developing the system along with the auto industry.
He said the group’s ultimate goal is to get the alcohol sensors into passenger cars within the next three years – and eventually into every vehicle produced to hopefully eliminate drunk driving deaths within our lifetime.

“That’s our biggest traffic safety problem and it’s eminently preventable,” Strassburger told 13News. “Our mission is to see the DADSS technology deployed as widely as possible as quickly as possible.”

Life-changing impact​


Pam Kelshaw holds a photo of her daughter, Silina, who was killed 19 years ago by a drunk driver.
The Automotive Coalition for Traffic Safety has a large backing of supporters for its alcohol sensors. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has already spent about $50 million to help fund DADSS research, with 16 of the world’s largest automakers (including GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda, BMW and others) contributing another $50 million.

The type of technology developed by the DADSS program has also garnered support from many victims of drunk driving, who’ve expressed optimism that the alcohol sensors will significantly reduce the number of drunk driving fatalities that still plague communities every day. The United States records approximately 10,000 drunk driving deaths every year.

“It changes your life forever. It’s like waking up every day to your worst nightmare,” said Pam Kelshaw, who still vividly remembers the phone call she received 19 years ago to inform her that her family had been in a terrible crash.

Kelshaw’s family was returning from a shopping trip when another driver ran a stop sign near Noblesville High School. That driver, who was zooming through a school zone at more than 100 mph, crashed into the back of the family’s minivan. Kelshaw’s husband and son survived, but her 17-year-old daughter, Silina, died from massive injuries. Police discovered the speeding driver had also been drinking.

“When the police got him out of his car and told him he had to go to the hospital, he wanted to know what was going to happen to his beer. All he wanted to know: ‘what’s going to happen to my beer?’” Kelshaw said, recalling her conversations with investigators.

Kelshaw, who serves as the Indiana state director for Mothers Against Drunk Driving, believes more needs to be done to prevent these types of crashes and fatalities. MADD’s national president says technological advancements to reduce impaired driving are long overdue, and she hopes the federal government will mandate some type of technology in the near future.

“The lives it would save, the lives it would keep from changing irrevocably, that’s huge,” said MADD president Alex Otte. “I wish someone had put this in cars and put this in vehicles before so many victims and families came to our organization.”

Strassburger says ACTS has already been in contact with several companies that plan to license DADSS sensors in their fleet vehicles by the end of 2021.

Walking “a very fine line”​


The Automotive Coalition for Traffic Safety (ACTS) shared a photo of their Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety sensor.

But not everyone seems excited about mandated alcohol sensors in vehicles. Trade associations that represent trucking and rental car companies, two of the industries that can begin installing DADSS sensors later this year, told 13News they have heard little feedback from their members about the possibility of installing the new technology.

“A lot of our companies walk a very fine line about Big Brother watching [their drivers],” said Barbara Smithers, vice president of the Indiana Motor Truck Association, which advocates for the state’s trucking companies. “It would be hard for me to imagine a carrier would want to install this in all of their vehicles proactively, especially if they haven’t had any issues with their drivers.”
When contacted by WTHR, the American Car Rental Association did not have any comment on alcohol sensors in rental cars, although a spokesman did say “anything that makes renting a car safer for ACRA’s renters and the other motorists on the road is a good development.”

Some trade groups, such as the American Beverage Institute, have been outspoken critics of the DADSS program.

ABI, which promotes itself as a restaurant trade association dedicated to the protection of responsible on-premise consumption of adult beverages, says DADSS sensors are “unlikely to work perfectly,” resulting in drunk drivers still operating vehicles and sober drivers getting stranded. The organization questions whether alcohol detection sensors will be programmed to prohibit drinkers from operating a vehicle even when they are not legally intoxicated with a .08 blood alcohol concentration, “making it hard for most drivers to have a single drink before driving,” according to the ABI website.

Pam Kelshaw doesn’t buy that. The drunk driver who crashed into her family and killed her daughter had a BAC under the .08% legal limit.

“If you’re not drinking and driving, you don’t have a problem,” Kelshaw said. “It’s not an inconvenience. It’s helping save lives. We have to do something to stop this.”

Should alcohol sensors be mandatory in all vehicles?​


DADSS developers envision a steady progression that will make alcohol detection sensors more widely available over the coming decade. Providing the technology to companies that are eager to install the sensors into their fleets is the next step in that progression.

After that, DADSS sensors could be an optional piece of safety equipment offered by automakers looking to appeal to safety-conscious consumers. Appealing to parents who’d like a vehicle that won’t start if their teenage driver is under the influence of alcohol could be an attractive marketing pitch.
But some lawmakers believe the technology is too important to be considered optional.

Congress is considering two separate bills – the RIDE Act and HALT Act – that would both promote further development of advanced alcohol and impaired driving detection technology and mandate automakers to install that technology in new vehicles. Both have attracted bi-partisan support but face uphill battles in an increasingly partisan and divided Congress.

Supporters of the bills say utilizing technology to prevent drunk driving deaths is no different than mandating seat belts or airbags. And the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety released a 2020 study that found drunk driving prevention technologies could prevent more than 9,400 drunk driving deaths annually if made standard on all new vehicles.

“It is heartbreaking that we have lost so many to the irresponsible actions of drunk drivers, and it’s time to take real, significant action to prevent any further loss,” Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) said earlier this year when he re-introduced the RIDE Act in the Senate.
Otte agrees.

“We support any kind of technological advancements that will lead to an end to drunk driving,” she told 13News. “It is 100% preventable and 100% avoidable.”
 
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Just limit car speeds with a gps to 20 miles per hour inside cities.
 
interesting in theory... In practice this won't stop someone smart enough... And perhaps just be yet another thing that will malfunction and fuck with people. And also fuck with your privacy in some way too.
I wouldn't be surprised if they make this thing start auto reporting to drivers insurance companies, so that they can then massively upcharge insurance rates.
 
How soon til we jail break cars?

Depends on how standardized things are, cars are also a nightmare for these kinds of things by design.

For example, android jailbreaking and OS alternatives are largely held back by the sheer amount of devices and drivers that all need to be set up from the initial install, even when you try to make a shortlist of the popular devices, that list can change before you finish adding support for anything.

Teslas would be easy for the same reason iPhones are, otherwise, like androids, you would have to seek out and buy a specific car that has that support, not simply buy your preferred car and expect support.

I'm sure that finger based one works really well if you have some ethanol based hand sanitizer left on your hands.

Plus, this won't stop people from driving drunk, they will just find new substances to get drunk on (and they do exist).

Hand sanitizer being fairly common now that we're living with corona for the foreseeable future.

This will also either not be effective when wearing gloves (if the check just halts startup), or your car simply won't work while wearing gloves (if the check is a requirement for startup), which wouldn't be fun in a proper winter after you de-ice your car in the morning.
 
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From here on out, anyone decrying the way America grew and embraces the automobile instead of goats, donkeys, and faggoty mass transportation will be looked at the same as a Communist.
You already weren't? Man, and here I had respect for the wisdom of my elders for a brief, short moment.
 
I think the next car grab will one, happen in the next 4-8 years and two, will be mandatory. They'll find some "cannot be back-ported to older cars" technology to mandate, and you'll simply have no choice. Look, you get $10k for your "clunker" (even if it's a 2019 porsche 911 turbo that's worth in excess of $80k)...and deal with it. $10k won't buy you a new car and you can't get the financing to buy one outright? dRiViNg Is A PrIvIleGe NoT a RiGhT, subject!

I'm friends with a couple of gear-heads who built their own speed shop on their property, and talking to them and friends of theirs, performance guys, from classic muscle car enthusiasts (but especially those guys), all the way to the twinks who buy new Hondas and "perf tune" them so they go 160mph, have dinner plate sized tires, and sound like a tomy toy machine gun, they're all afraid of the shit that's coming down. It's gonna kill what they love. And if the Ds are still in power, I'm sure they'll have people reporting violators in for big rewards. "Uh yes, hello? I saw someone with a <whispers> gas powered car that looked really old on their property! And they had the hood open! And were working on it!"

Or maybe I'm just being paranoid.
The quickest way to get a civil revolt in the rural hinterlands, where auto ownership isn't just a right, but a life-or-death necessity. Can't tell your subjects to "BOARD THE BUS, BIGOT" in places even Greyhound doesn't service.
 
NTSB wants all new vehicles to check drivers for alcohol use
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By Tom Krisher
2022-09-20 21:26:41GMT

DETROIT (AP) — The National Transportation Safety Board is recommending that all new vehicles in the U.S. be equipped with blood alcohol monitoring systems that can stop an intoxicated person from driving.

The recommendation, if enacted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, could reduce the number of alcohol-related crashes, one of the biggest causes of highway deaths in the U.S.

The new push to make roads safer was included in a report released Tuesday about a horrific crash last year in which a drunk driver collided head-on with another vehicle near Fresno, California, killing both adult drivers and seven children.

NHTSA said this week that roadway deaths in the U.S. are at crisis levels. Nearly 43,000 people were killed last year, the greatest number in 16 years, as Americans returned to roads after pandemic stay-at-home orders.

Early estimates show fatalities rising again through the first half of this year, but they declined from April through June, which authorities are hoping is a trend.

The NTSB, which has no regulatory authority and can only ask other agencies to act, said the recommendation is designed to put pressure on NHTSA to move. It could be effective as early as three years from now.

“We need NHTSA to act. We see the numbers,” NTSB Chairman Jennifer Homendy said. “We need to make sure that we’re doing all we can to save lives.”

The NTSB, she said, has been pushing NHTSA to explore alcohol monitoring technology since 2012. “The faster the technology is implemented the more lives that will be saved,” she said.

The recommendation also calls for systems to monitor a driver’s behavior, making sure they’re alert. She said many cars now have cameras pointed at the driver, which have the potential to limit impaired driving.

But Homendy says she also understands that perfecting the alcohol tests will take time. “We also know that it’s going to take time for NHTSA to evaluate what technologies are available and how to develop a standard.”

A message was left Tuesday seeking comment from NHTSA.

The agency and a group of 16 automakers have been jointly funding research on alcohol monitoring since 2008, forming a group called Driver Alcohol Detection System for Safety.

The group has hired a Swedish company to research technology that would automatically test a driver’s breath for alcohol and stop a vehicle from moving if the driver is impaired, said Jake McCook, spokesman for the group. The driver wouldn’t have to blow into a tube, and a sensor would check the driver’s breath, McCook said.

Another company is working on light technology that could test for blood alcohol in a person’s finger, he said. Breath technology could be ready by the end of 2024, while the touch technology would come about a year later.

It could take one or two more model years after automakers get the technology for it to be in new vehicles, McCook said.

Once the technology is ready, it will take years for it to be in most of the roughly 280 million vehicles on U.S. roads.

Under last year’s bipartisan infrastructure law, Congress required NHTSA to make automakers install alcohol monitoring systems within three years. The agency can seek an extension. In the past it has been slow to enact such requirements.

The legislation doesn’t specify the technology, only that it must “passively monitor” a driver to determine if they are impaired.

In 2020, the most recent figures available, 11,654 people died in alcohol-related crashes, according to NHTSA data. That’s about 30% of all U.S. traffic deaths, and a 14% increase over 2019 figures, the last full year before the coronavirus pandemic, the NTSB said.

In the fatal crash included in the report, a 28-year-old driver of an SUV was headed home from a 2021 New Year’s Day party where he had been drinking. The SUV went off the right side of State Route 33, crossed the center line and hit a Ford F-150 pickup truck head-on near Avenal, California.

The pickup was carrying 34-year-old Gabriela Pulido and seven children ages 6 to 15 home after a trip to Pismo Beach. The truck quickly caught fire and bystanders couldn’t save the passengers, the NTSB said.

The SUV driver’s blood alcohol level was 0.21%, nearly three times California’s legal limit. He also had marijuana in his system, but the agency said the alcohol was more than enough to severely impair his driving. The SUV was traveling 88-to-98 miles per hour (142 to 158 kilometers per hour), the report said.

The crash happened less than a second from when the Journey re-entered the road, giving Pulido no time to avoid the collision, the NTSB said.

Juan Pulido, 37, whose wife and four children were killed in the crash, said he’s happy the NTSB is pushing for alcohol monitoring because it could stop another person from losing loved ones. “It’s something that their families have to live with,” he said. “It doesn’t go away tomorrow.”

Pulido’s lawyer, Paul Kiesel, says driver monitoring systems also could stop crashes caused by medical problems or drowsiness, saving anguish and billions in hospital treatment costs.
 
Ok retards whats stopping someone from just buying an older car? Are you going to make all of those illegal too? Sounds accelerationist to me if all the poor people that require a car to get to their jobs all of a sudden have to lose those cars, their jobs, and get even poorer. Cash for clunkers? Yeah unless you plan on giving everyone 30k+ for their 2004 fagwagon you can forget about it.
The EPA could easily blacklist older cars by using stricter pollution standards. Have CARB do enact the new plan and it'll affect the rest of the country.
 
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Drunk driving is one of the most overblown things in American criminal justice system. The vast majority of adults who drink have at some point gotten behind the wheel when they shouldn't have and most have nothing happen. The ones who get caught are disproportionately punished because the cunts at MADD have demonized it to the point no one is going to say "hey maybe we are going overboard here" because everyone buys into the narrative that driving drunk puts a huge magnet in your car that locks onto new borns or newlyweds.

Its a stupid thing to do but you can't force people to reduce their quality of life just to target something like impaired driving.

Also this will absolutely fuck over all the wetbacks here illegally.
 
yknow there are probably better and cheaper ways to do this than forcing every car to be manufactured with more dumb shit
like living near a bar thats in walking distance instead of needing to drive to one. or letting me turn my house into a bar so i can make maximum profits off drunks
 
Drunk driving is one of the most overblown things in American criminal justice system. The vast majority of adults who drink have at some point gotten behind the wheel when they shouldn't have and most have nothing happen. The ones who get caught are disproportionately punished because the cunts at MADD have demonized it to the point no one is going to say "hey maybe we are going overboard here" because everyone buys into the narrative that driving drunk puts a huge magnet in your car that locks onto new borns or newlyweds.

Its a stupid thing to do but you can't force people to reduce their quality of life just to target something like impaired driving.

Also this will absolutely fuck over all the wetbacks here illegally.
Gotta make that money for the State from all those DUIs. I bet secretly local governments hate the idea of anti-drunk driving tech in cars because it will lead to less revenue.

Each DUI costs like what 20k now?
 
Yeah, and then all the usual suspects will howl about how terrible it is that Jose can't drive to work after drinking half of a bottle of his namesake in less than an hour.
Like with most laws, the illegals will be exempt to combat racism. I hear it's always a good sign when the citizens of the country are treated like niggers.
 
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