🐱 It’s Time to Talk About the Biggest Problem With Yuri Anime

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It's not an uncommon story: girl friends who hug or kiss with an abandon that boys would never take for granted because when girls are affectionate with each other, it simply means less. Female friendships are allowed to be more physically and emotionally intimate without accusations of homosexuality. This may offer some a degree of safety, but for others, that casual dismissal of romantic female relationships can also be a dismissal of a hard-accepted identity.

As media plays such a large role in influencing lives--sometimes even introducing people to the concept of LGBTQ+ and other identities--it is now more important than ever for media such as anime to portray those stories with care. As anime continues to handle the topic of women being in romantic relationships, it is a responsibility to be sure that these stories, also known as 'yuri,' are nuanced and varied, and avoid the pitfalls that have emerged in the genre over the decades.

The History and Meaning of Yuri​


Yuri anime and manga is content that includes or focuses on romantic relationships between girls and women, with the literal translation being 'lily.' Yuri content has fluctuated in and out of popularity since all-female boarding schools became common around the turn of the 20th century and it began to appear as the subject in widespread books. As anime and manga such as The Rose of Versailles became popular in the women's movement of the 1970s, characters such as Lady Oscar inspired a whole new wave of interest in yuri content, with more and more fictional women gradually appearing in stories focusing on female relationships.

As with all genres, yuri has its sub-genres, one of which ended up becoming the root of many of the problems with yuri today: shoujo-ai. Shoji-ai originally was used to differentiate works that didn't contain sex, but the term has taken on a new meaning as a sub-genre of yuri that doesn't contain an explicit confirmation of the relationship. It may capture the emotion, but it does nothing to actually prove beyond doubt that this is anything beyond girls being friends, and here is where the issue of 'yuri-baiting' occurs.

The Problem With Yuri-Baiting​

The largest problem with yuri as it stands now is that most yuri is simply not yuri. Many favorite relationships are not real and will never become so. However, shows love to take female characters and make it seem like they have romantic feelings for each other without ever actually pulling through, baiting fans with yuri potential and then dropping the ball. Anime such as Puella Magic Madoka Magica and Sound!Euphonium both make it seem like a particular yuri pairing has the potential to be real LGBTQ+ representation, and will draw official art, sell figures, or simply write the show in a way that makes the girls seem like a couple. This profits off people who are desperate for representation while not planning on ever delivering.

For example, many, if not most, Madoka Magica fans can agree that Akemi Homura's feelings for Kaname Madoka go beyond platonic. Scale figures of Miki Sayaka and Sakura Kyoko will even be sold separately but with interchangeable arm parts to allow them to be joined together--and only with each other--yet without an official declaration of romance, this can be brushed aside as girls being naturally more affectionate. Even an official declaration of feelings sometimes isn't enough. In Sound!Euphonium, the main character offered up a "confession of love," only for them to focus on the other's unrequited crush on a male teacher and end the show as platonic friends.

This can be further seen in official artwork for shows such as Princess Principal, which once again does not actually have two women in a relationship but feels free to capitalize on how the concept of yuri will sell the show. The artwork of the characters Ange le Carré and Princess Charlotte is full of romantic and even sexual undertones and the show contains romantic tension, but without a kiss or romantic acknowledgment, their relationship will never be considered true yuri. This allows the show to maintain the audience who would frown upon LGBTQ+ representation while still baiting an audience who are willing to accept a relationship that won't ever be real.

Other strong offenders of yuri-baiting include Izetta: the Last Witch, Higurashi: When They Cry and many Idol shows that have all the hallmarks of being shoujo-ai without the actual girls' love. Though many of these shows are still completely enjoyable, the fact that they depict what seem to be romantic relationships between girls and women, use that to sell merchandise and attract viewers but then never actually have that relationship come to fruition is cruel towards LGBTQ+ viewers who are searching for stories to connect with.

True Yuri Representation?​

Unfortunately, many shows that are official 'yuri' do not stand up to scrutinization either. Yuru Yurifeatures very young girls where any sexualization comes off as inherently wrong, and the show helps this along by making much of the sexualization further taboo by making it incestuous or simply lecherous. Any feelings these girls have towards each other are, at the end of the day, meant to be light-hearted and not taken seriously as LGBTQ+ representation. Other shows with explicit sexual actions between women might technically be representation, but are clearly meant for the male gaze or are extremely predatory in a way that makes them an ill-fit for representation, such as Citrus.

The sub-genre of Class S occasionally produces a yuri pairing that seems to cement itself as real, but Class S has many of its own issues. Class S shows take place at those all-female boarding schools that began to inspire yuri works in the early 1900s, and the all-female casts lend themselves easily to yuri. However, even in shows such as Strawberry Panic where the characters kiss and seem to make themselves a real pairing, the idea that they will leave the school and thus 'graduate' from their desires towards other women is threaded into the narrative, much in the same way that girls might be expected to 'experiment' with their sexuality in college but ultimately settle down with a man.

Yuri Moving Forward​

Fortunately, for all the negative content out there with yuri representation, there have been strides forward, as well as anime from decades past that continue to set an example. While Revolutionary Girl Utena is set in a Class S scenario, the plot required the heroines to break out of the 'egg' they have been trapped inside in order to find each other and live happily, and they share a passionate kiss in the movie to solidify their romantic attraction. Shows such as Whispered Words explore girls who are learning about their sexualities as they go, and offer true shoujo-ai while still being yuri with characters who identify as being attracted to girls while not including explicit sexual content. More recent works such as Bloom Into You, Kase-san and the Morning Glories and Adachi and Shimamura are yuri anime where the characters are unmistakably queer and, even more importantly, taking that attraction beyond the schoolgirl setting to show that their attraction is valid far past the stage they should have 'grown out of it.'

Like any media representing an oft-oppressed community, yuri has a tumultuous history and is far from perfect today. Sub-genres such as shoujo-ai and Class S have allowed yuri to become bait for people searching for representation. When the two girls or women are truly in a relationship, it is either often littered with abusive elements, created for the male gaze, or destined to be over when the couple leaves the environment of an all-girls school. While yuri-baiting in shows such as Madoka Magica has drawn a large audience, however, there are shows with true yuri couples with promising futures, and as societal acceptance of the LGBTQ+ community increases, the ability to create shows with representation also grows. Yuri is moving in the right direction and will continue to do so as audiences demand fairer representation as society evolves to be more accepting of yuri and queer women in real life who want to exist beyond the scope of fiction.
 
Trans Yuri. :lol:

They don't seem to understand how traps work in anime. Didn't they obsess over that boy in Danganronpa that dressed like a girl? He wasn't trans but trying to sort out his weaknesses or something like that?

Ah yes, groundhogs day but Yuri! Keiichi Maebara is my favorite yuri protagonist! Wait, what's that? Murder? Yakuza dealings? Onikakushi? What?Is that asian BIPOC hate CHUD?!

I am100% convinced people like this HAVE to be some form of fucking skinwalker thatjust reads uploose definitions of what happens in media and slaps labels and identity bullshit onto them.


Never saw it butit's apperently "satoko doesnt like studying and some timeloop bitch gives her the ability todo thetimeloop thing and instead of using it to like better her life, she murders herself, everyone else, and rika on loop in 1983 by doing shit like injecting them with sicko mode drugs for some dumbass reason and this solely exists to have the fucking "twist"of it being a sequel unlike the other much better done and less intrusive "remake but ACTUALLY SEQUEL" twists out there in media like for instance gridman where it's revealed the events of the previous series happened in lore by one of the characters being directly related to one from the older series. Shits infinitely different than the originals much cooler concept of "different outcomes based on paths people take with rika dying being what causes the loop shit"

Also teppei is retconned into a "haha wacky funny moments awkward uncle!" kindaguy instead ofthe absolute monstrous bastard he is in the original.

Teppei talks about how he plans to have sex with Satoko at some point. He also beat her so badly she couldn't go to school and threatens to burn all her brother's possessions if she ever tells on him. He's a complete waste of skin and the character made me truly uncomfortable.

Is Gou supposed to be a parody or is it 100% serious?
 
Teppei talks about how he plans to have sex with Satoko at some point. He also beat her so badly she couldn't go to school and threatens to burn all her brother's possessions if she ever tells on him. He's a complete waste of skin and the character made me truly uncomfortable.

Is Gou supposed to be a parody or is it 100% serious?
It's supposed to be taken seriously. It comes off like a parody because Passione is that incompetent and didn't get tard-wrangled by Ryukishi.

Teppei's "redemption" was supposed to be taken seriously, too, but it doesn't work given the fact he was portrayed as an abusive, selfish, and cruel son of a bitch where the best case scenario to getting him out of the picture was to have him arrested. Satoko still uses him as her pawn in Sotsugou anyway in attempt to get the audience to feel bad for him, which only "worked" because Satoko became worse.

That's bad writing, and Ryukishi is a hack.
 
Christ...Anime is a freaking disease that only leads to more disturbing habits.

I bet like 99% of all the MTF troons started out by watching that Japanese shit. It's their revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a slow moral poison to corrupt America's youth.
Goes back to the mouse, Disney had a heavy inspiration on anime

More like Disney is the disease. Then furries helped to bring anime to American shores. The first anime club was started by the furries.


(If you want to enjoy things, best to stay the fuck away from the fandom and the drama they bring. Fandoms ruin everything and then you get the shippers the ultimate cancer on fun. Like the author of this article)
 
Pretty much. It's worse, since Ryukishi encourages it by retconning Lambdadelta as Satoko. It shouldn't surprise anyone after the whole Yasu thing in Umineko, Ryukishi lives to be transgressive and edgy. But I was one of those people who thought Umineko was a mystery and Shkanon was dumb as a solution and a copout, not one of the people who signed on for metaverse bullshit and genderspecialness.
I will die on the hill that is Rosa-trice.
yasu was a red harring given to people who didnt want to bother thinking about the solution.
 
I will die on the hill that is Rosa-trice.
yasu was a red harring given to people who didnt want to bother thinking about the solution.
Without BT there to help, I don't think he knew how to convincingly end it, so Metaworld shit and things to keep the tumblr crowd happy, fuck the mystery fans. The problem with Yasu and Shkanon is that you don't need either for the mystery to work. There's no reason for Yasu's genderspecialness, because it's never a motivation for anything in the series. Make Yasu a normal girl and nothing changes. Shit, some of the other character's motivations fit better, but no it wouldn't be Ryukishi if shit was normal. Have to cater to the kind of fans who would wonder about the sexuality of ten year olds in a series that literally tortures one of them to death.

At least you Rosa-trice fans made rational arguments. As a Shannon-trice fan, I could respect that.
 
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LOL TRANS YURI

Transcels always and I mean ALWAYS have to invade every lesbian space they can find.

Also I hate to be an ACKSHUALLY but futanari isn't trans, futanari is biological/mythical women with penises.

Trans Yuri would be more like Trap x Girl. Like Astolfo x a girl in that stupid series. Trap isn't trans either but it is closer to trans than futanari is. Both are degenerate though.
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....What? Where do these degenerates come up with this stuff? Yeah, some girls can be a bit huggy when they're in a hyper mood or something, but even then, it's not like a long, cuddle hug. We're talking quick hugs or shoulder squeezing, nothing lingering.

And then there's this bit about girlfriends kissing. Wtf? I can only think of a couple of instances in my life where my girlfriends "kissed" me, and both times involved alcohol and it was a silly drunk peck on the cheek. Like one lady was drunk and "kissed" me because I gave her pizza to eat. She saw the pizza, she then screamed "OOhh my GOSH PIZZA?!?! I LOVE YOOOOU!!", clearly silly drunkenness and no one would consider it an actual kiss.

Even though women can get away with showing more emotion and being more touchy feely, that doesn't mean they can cuddle, hug, or kiss their girlfriends and no one will care. You will 100% come off as a lesbian if you try that crap, and you'll be booted from the group if you keep trying.
It’s the “all women are bisexual” meme. Lol no we are not.

Idk. I feel really bad for girls who are actually sexually attracted to other girls because they may be given the mistaken impression that their lesbian shit is actually ok with other girls. It is not, even if those other girls just *adore* their gay male friends. Only fake bi is accepted, everyone knows they’re in no danger from each other. Must be particularly bad for the autistic lesbians, getting confusing signals saying “acceptance” on the one hand and “but not if you’re actually genuinely sexually attracted to females” on the other. No wonder they troon out on the regular.
 
Imagine knowing so little about Japanese pop culture you actually write an article whining there is a lack of lesbian school girls and dickgirls. This is someone who watched a filler episode of Naruto and thinks this makes them a hardcore geek.
To be fair, most of the Filler Arcs were better than the last third of the actual story.
 
I thought people actually liked the ending of Naruto? Or was that solely for the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight?
Only Narutards who were coping, casual fans lost interest during the war (because holy fuck the pacing was shit), and anyone smart stopped taking the entire series seriously the moment it was reveled that "The Sharingan turns people evil because it makes them LOVE to much."

Everything after that was pure Autism that is only surpassed by Attack on Titan.

Edit : PS, Shippers should kill themselves Kthanksbai
 
PS, Shippers should kill themselves Kthanksbai
You're right, but it sounds like there's a personal trauma behind this.

Only thing I know about shipping in the Naruto fandom is that the most popular ship was Naruto/Sasuke because of ONE accidental kiss, and NaruHina becoming canon made 774 want to become a better man (and draw vanilla doujins, then make more tame one of his non-H works for serialization in a shounen magazine, which I'm pretty sure popularized both the... "sadodere" archetype, as well as (maybe) the gyaru/otaku premise).
 
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Other shows with explicit sexual actions between women might technically be representation, but are clearly meant for the male gaze or are extremely predatory in a way that makes them an ill-fit for representation, such as Citrus.
Fortunately, for all the negative content out there with yuri representation, there have been strides forward, as well as anime from decades past that continue to set an example. While Revolutionary Girl Utena is set in a Class S scenario, the plot required the heroines to break out of the 'egg' they have been trapped inside in order to find each other and live happily, and they share a passionate kiss in the movie to solidify their romantic attraction. Shows such as Whispered Words explore girls who are learning about their sexualities as they go, and offer true shoujo-ai while still being yuri with characters who identify as being attracted to girls while not including explicit sexual content. More recent works such as Bloom Into You, Kase-san and the Morning Glories and Adachi and Shimamura are yuri anime where the characters are unmistakably queer and, even more importantly, taking that attraction beyond the schoolgirl setting to show that their attraction is valid far past the stage they should have 'grown out of it.'
So Citrus is the "wrong" kind of yuri because it's more explicitly erotic, therefore making it "clearly meant for the male gaze"? Why can't lesbians like seeing girls getting raunchy?

Furthermore, isn't it rather the case that all of these yuri stories approved by the CBR writer are targeted towards the male demographic ("male gaze") rather than lesbians? You know, similar to how BL/yaoi is targeted towards straight women.
 
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Yuri anime isn't made for lesbians, it's made for neckbeard incels and troons (redundant I know). And it's kept vague so people can ship their favourite character pairings to draw fapfiction of and tell themselves it's canon

Yaoi on the other hand is made for women, albeit weird fat and or autistic weirdo women to fap to

is the author a troon? they're ugly but I didn't see an adams apple or troon smirk

Christ...Anime is a freaking disease that only leads to more disturbing habits.

I bet like 99% of all the MTF troons started out by watching that Japanese shit. It's their revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a slow moral poison to corrupt America's youth.

It's not even anime at large, it's a specific couple of genres that were marketed to Japan's massive population of lonely men with either no jobs, or jobs they work 100+ hours a week at leaving no time for human connection
in Japan it helped fuel hikkikomori because they don't have an SJW culture really. In the west it merged with tumblr culture and created a plague of AGP troons
 
Oh fuck off. I’ve been perfectly content with the subtle yuri in Madoka for ten years now. The light touch makes it more secretive, which is a key element in yuri.
I've always found subtle gay relationships more interesting, story-wise.

These kind of people want everything uncloseted and out in the open, no stigma or shame, yet they create characters whose soul character trait is being gay. Therefore, they need rampant homophobia to be a theme so that there's conflict. Most people in real life don't care, but stupid SJWs get off on imagined oppression. They wouldn't be happy if they didn't have to write these articles anymore, because they're unhappy people.
 
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