🐱 It’s Time to Talk About the Biggest Problem With Yuri Anime

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It's not an uncommon story: girl friends who hug or kiss with an abandon that boys would never take for granted because when girls are affectionate with each other, it simply means less. Female friendships are allowed to be more physically and emotionally intimate without accusations of homosexuality. This may offer some a degree of safety, but for others, that casual dismissal of romantic female relationships can also be a dismissal of a hard-accepted identity.

As media plays such a large role in influencing lives--sometimes even introducing people to the concept of LGBTQ+ and other identities--it is now more important than ever for media such as anime to portray those stories with care. As anime continues to handle the topic of women being in romantic relationships, it is a responsibility to be sure that these stories, also known as 'yuri,' are nuanced and varied, and avoid the pitfalls that have emerged in the genre over the decades.

The History and Meaning of Yuri​


Yuri anime and manga is content that includes or focuses on romantic relationships between girls and women, with the literal translation being 'lily.' Yuri content has fluctuated in and out of popularity since all-female boarding schools became common around the turn of the 20th century and it began to appear as the subject in widespread books. As anime and manga such as The Rose of Versailles became popular in the women's movement of the 1970s, characters such as Lady Oscar inspired a whole new wave of interest in yuri content, with more and more fictional women gradually appearing in stories focusing on female relationships.

As with all genres, yuri has its sub-genres, one of which ended up becoming the root of many of the problems with yuri today: shoujo-ai. Shoji-ai originally was used to differentiate works that didn't contain sex, but the term has taken on a new meaning as a sub-genre of yuri that doesn't contain an explicit confirmation of the relationship. It may capture the emotion, but it does nothing to actually prove beyond doubt that this is anything beyond girls being friends, and here is where the issue of 'yuri-baiting' occurs.

The Problem With Yuri-Baiting​

The largest problem with yuri as it stands now is that most yuri is simply not yuri. Many favorite relationships are not real and will never become so. However, shows love to take female characters and make it seem like they have romantic feelings for each other without ever actually pulling through, baiting fans with yuri potential and then dropping the ball. Anime such as Puella Magic Madoka Magica and Sound!Euphonium both make it seem like a particular yuri pairing has the potential to be real LGBTQ+ representation, and will draw official art, sell figures, or simply write the show in a way that makes the girls seem like a couple. This profits off people who are desperate for representation while not planning on ever delivering.

For example, many, if not most, Madoka Magica fans can agree that Akemi Homura's feelings for Kaname Madoka go beyond platonic. Scale figures of Miki Sayaka and Sakura Kyoko will even be sold separately but with interchangeable arm parts to allow them to be joined together--and only with each other--yet without an official declaration of romance, this can be brushed aside as girls being naturally more affectionate. Even an official declaration of feelings sometimes isn't enough. In Sound!Euphonium, the main character offered up a "confession of love," only for them to focus on the other's unrequited crush on a male teacher and end the show as platonic friends.

This can be further seen in official artwork for shows such as Princess Principal, which once again does not actually have two women in a relationship but feels free to capitalize on how the concept of yuri will sell the show. The artwork of the characters Ange le Carré and Princess Charlotte is full of romantic and even sexual undertones and the show contains romantic tension, but without a kiss or romantic acknowledgment, their relationship will never be considered true yuri. This allows the show to maintain the audience who would frown upon LGBTQ+ representation while still baiting an audience who are willing to accept a relationship that won't ever be real.

Other strong offenders of yuri-baiting include Izetta: the Last Witch, Higurashi: When They Cry and many Idol shows that have all the hallmarks of being shoujo-ai without the actual girls' love. Though many of these shows are still completely enjoyable, the fact that they depict what seem to be romantic relationships between girls and women, use that to sell merchandise and attract viewers but then never actually have that relationship come to fruition is cruel towards LGBTQ+ viewers who are searching for stories to connect with.

True Yuri Representation?​

Unfortunately, many shows that are official 'yuri' do not stand up to scrutinization either. Yuru Yurifeatures very young girls where any sexualization comes off as inherently wrong, and the show helps this along by making much of the sexualization further taboo by making it incestuous or simply lecherous. Any feelings these girls have towards each other are, at the end of the day, meant to be light-hearted and not taken seriously as LGBTQ+ representation. Other shows with explicit sexual actions between women might technically be representation, but are clearly meant for the male gaze or are extremely predatory in a way that makes them an ill-fit for representation, such as Citrus.

The sub-genre of Class S occasionally produces a yuri pairing that seems to cement itself as real, but Class S has many of its own issues. Class S shows take place at those all-female boarding schools that began to inspire yuri works in the early 1900s, and the all-female casts lend themselves easily to yuri. However, even in shows such as Strawberry Panic where the characters kiss and seem to make themselves a real pairing, the idea that they will leave the school and thus 'graduate' from their desires towards other women is threaded into the narrative, much in the same way that girls might be expected to 'experiment' with their sexuality in college but ultimately settle down with a man.

Yuri Moving Forward​

Fortunately, for all the negative content out there with yuri representation, there have been strides forward, as well as anime from decades past that continue to set an example. While Revolutionary Girl Utena is set in a Class S scenario, the plot required the heroines to break out of the 'egg' they have been trapped inside in order to find each other and live happily, and they share a passionate kiss in the movie to solidify their romantic attraction. Shows such as Whispered Words explore girls who are learning about their sexualities as they go, and offer true shoujo-ai while still being yuri with characters who identify as being attracted to girls while not including explicit sexual content. More recent works such as Bloom Into You, Kase-san and the Morning Glories and Adachi and Shimamura are yuri anime where the characters are unmistakably queer and, even more importantly, taking that attraction beyond the schoolgirl setting to show that their attraction is valid far past the stage they should have 'grown out of it.'

Like any media representing an oft-oppressed community, yuri has a tumultuous history and is far from perfect today. Sub-genres such as shoujo-ai and Class S have allowed yuri to become bait for people searching for representation. When the two girls or women are truly in a relationship, it is either often littered with abusive elements, created for the male gaze, or destined to be over when the couple leaves the environment of an all-girls school. While yuri-baiting in shows such as Madoka Magica has drawn a large audience, however, there are shows with true yuri couples with promising futures, and as societal acceptance of the LGBTQ+ community increases, the ability to create shows with representation also grows. Yuri is moving in the right direction and will continue to do so as audiences demand fairer representation as society evolves to be more accepting of yuri and queer women in real life who want to exist beyond the scope of fiction.
 
since Ryukishi encourages it by retconning Lambdadelta as Satoko.
That's not a retcon at all, though. Lambdadelta was referencing Satoko from her very first appearance.
Hell, her very first line in all of Umineko was a hearty "HOHOHOHOHOH", just to make it completely obvious.
Sure, Lambdadelta also clearly referenced Takano at the same time, but many of her physical and personality traits were clearly inspired by Satoko, ranging from the laugh, the single fang, the pumpkin, the tsundere attitude... Bernkastel even mentions to Beatrice how Lambda gets lonely easily, which paraphrases one of the first things Rika says about Satoko in Onikakushi.
As Umineko progressed, Lambda only got more Satoko references, such as her liking traps or outright referencing the pie puzzle Keiichi tricked Satoko with, while the Takano aspects were diminished, with Featherine being made responsible for Bern's hell, instead of it being considered to be Lambda's game. In a 2008 interview, Ryukishi even denies any physical similarities between Lambda and Miyoko.
She was always a character clearly inspired by both Takano and Satoko, but the only real question surrounding her was whether or not she was supposed to actually be a Higurashi character, like how Bernkastel was obviously Rika, or if she was just supposed to be a reference to them, without any deeper meaning.

More to the topic at hand, is anyone even surprised at this point that a bunch of coombrains look at a pair of characters who clearly have a strongly co-dependent relationship that came out of their individual traumas (which was already obvious in the original Higurashi), and decide that they obviously must be lesbians? I guess you could argue that Rika may be legitimately attracted to Satoko given her "jokes" in the VN, but that was obviously never something to be taken seriously, and not didn't reflect their actual relationship.
Granted, marketing materials and parts of the show clearly tried to yuribait the hell out of it, but that's just one of the many failures of the anime, and Gou/Meguri pulling back on it is subsequently one of the reasons why it's a much better adaptation of the whole story.
 
That's not a retcon at all, though. Lambdadelta was referencing Satoko from her very first appearance.
Hell, her very first line in all of Umineko was a hearty "HOHOHOHOHOH", just to make it completely obvious.
Sure, Lambdadelta also clearly referenced Takano at the same time, but many of her physical and personality traits were clearly inspired by Satoko, ranging from the laugh, the single fang, the pumpkin, the tsundere attitude... Bernkastel even mentions to Beatrice how Lambda gets lonely easily, which paraphrases one of the first things Rika says about Satoko in Onikakushi.
As Umineko progressed, Lambda only got more Satoko references, such as her liking traps or outright referencing the pie puzzle Keiichi tricked Satoko with, while the Takano aspects were diminished, with Featherine being made responsible for Bern's hell, instead of it being considered to be Lambda's game. In a 2008 interview, Ryukishi even denies any physical similarities between Lambda and Miyoko.
She was always a character clearly inspired by both Takano and Satoko, but the only real question surrounding her was whether or not she was supposed to actually be a Higurashi character, like how Bernkastel was obviously Rika, or if she was just supposed to be a reference to them, without any deeper meaning.
No, Bern is a witch created from Rika's suffering, not actually Rika. That came straight from Higurashi. Lambda is to Takano what Bern is to Rika.

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Add that to the numbers in the name thing, Takano/Lambda being antagonistic towards Rika/Bern and I can't imagine why the Umineko community compared the two until Ryukishi started retconning things years later. Just like Satoko and Rika being gay for each other. Here's another when they cry character whose name also has 3 and 4 in it like Takano and Lambda.
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Ryukishi is a disingenuous ass, he knows exactly why people were comparing Takano and Lambda in that interview.
 
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In umineko LD was 100% written as either takano or as sponsoring her. Likewise Featherine was written as hanyuu. iirc its episode 6 where its specifically pointed out that character names being similar is significant.

Gou was a mistake, should of made the deenless umineko anime smh.
 
Yuri is bait for horny dudes just like Yaoi is bait for horny ladies.

It isn't meant to be empowering or representation or diverse or other buzzword.

Its meant to trigger your lizard brain and want to buy a statue of the main characters in a swimsuit.
 
No, Bern is a witch created from Rika's suffering, not actually Rika. That came straight from Higurashi. Lambda is to Takano what Bern is to Rika.


Add that to the numbers in the name thing, Takano/Lambda being antagonistic towards Rika/Bern and I can't imagine why the Umineko community compared the two until Ryukishi started retconning things years later. Just like Satoko and Rika being gay for each other. Here's another when they cry character whose name also has 3 and 4 in it like Takano and Lambda.

Ryukishi is a disingenuous ass, he knows exactly why people were comparing Takano and Lambda in that interview.
Bern and Lambda bring up their past existence as humans on multiple occasions; from their perspective, at least, their current existence is a continuation of their lives as human beings. As such, it is not unreasonable to treat Bernkastel as once having been Rika, since it's clearly how she views herself.
I'm not disputing that Lambdadelta references Takano in several ways, the name being the most obvious; all I'm saying here is that she also referenced Satoko from the very beginning, instead of it being a connection that was only retconned in with Gou.
I even believe that at one point, Ryukishi may have intended to have Lambdadelta be more about Takano than Satoko, since he's well known for major changes to the script while writing his stories (Irie at one point being intended as the main villain of Higurashi comes to mind), but even if that's true, it would definitely be something he moved away from very quickly.

In Memoirs of the ΛΔ, which was released not long after Banquet, Lambdadelta recounts some of the wishes she granted to people in her past. One of which is heavily implied to be Takano, who wanted to become a god through her own efforts. Lambda thinks she's kind of a pussy, but does grant her wish, and though she considers the girl herself a failure in the end, unable to achieve the depths Lambda wanted her to reach, she does note that the girl ended up creating a new witch regardless, which obviously carries the implication of it being Bernkastel.
This story does create plot holes no matter how you try to interpret it, since it would require some bizarro time shenanigans, but it also shows that while Ryukishi wanted Lambda and Takano to be similar in their methods, he also wanted them to be separate from each other, with Takano not being able to reach Lambda's level.
This makes sense when you consider how Takano in Higurashi never had an actual chance of achieving her goal of having Hifumi's parasite theories recognized and respected. After Koizumi's death, which was her once again rolling a 1 on the die despite all her efforts to ensure sixes, everything was over for her. Afterwards, she just turned into a pawn for Nomura and her employers, and the most she could accomplish was forcing a bunch of politicians to momentarily consider Hifumi's research before it would all be buried forever, after causing a genocide for the sole purpose of shifting the power balance within Tokyo away from the remaining Koizumi faction. Takano herself was obviously not going to walk away either, since she's just a liability at that point.

Takano never had much of a relationship with Rika, either. She just saw Rika as a test subject, and later a tool to set up the Hinamizawan genocide. To Rika, Takano may have been the person to trap her in an eternal hell, but to Takano, Rika was just someone she needed to kill. Even in Matsuribayashi, the conflict is set up more between Takano and Hanyuu than Takano and Rika.

Gou trying to tie Vier to Satoko is very silly, yes, but it would hardly be the first time Ryukishi tries to conflate Takano with Satoko. Rose Guns Days' Meryl has Takano's name, but her design takes more from Satoko, and she even explicitly hates pumpkin, just to drive it in further. Miotsukushi, though it wasn't written by Ryukishi, also involves Satoko actively sympathizing with Takano, and viewing her as someone she could've become if she didn't have her friends. It's clear that, for whatever reason, Ryukishi has wanted to connect Satoko and Takano for a very long time.
It's not even hard to argue that Satoko's conviction is much stronger than that of Takano's, since Takano constantly doubted herself throughout Matsuribayashi, and largely tries to follow through with her plot mostly due to her sense of obligation towards Hifumi, but Satoko's will in Meakashi was strong enough that she wouldn't relent even while bleeding to death (which is also when she drops three "zettai"s in a single line). Takano's ending in Matsuri even involves her letting go of the adopted "Takano Miyo" identity and return to her existence as "Tanashi Miyoko", which was the right thing to do, but it's also very unlike Lambda.

While there are definite parallels between Lambda and Takano, it never felt to me like it had anything resembling the connection between Rika and Bernkastel, who could easily be seen as a really cynical version of the alcoholic meeper, much in line with how Rika treated Rena in Tsumihoroboshi. Lambda was just meant to embody the concept of "certainty" Takano tried and failed to achieve, while taking on aspects of Satoko's character to pair her up with Bernkastel better. I don't think Lambda was originally conceived as being a witch form of any particular Higurashi character, and it is only when Umineko progressed and the witches became more prominent than they were originally intended, that Lambda slowly became tied to the human Satoko, and we got things like Lambda liking traps in Whose Tea Party, and her referencing Onikakushi's pie puzzle in Twilight, whereupon Bern comments that it was a puzzle Lambda herself fell for in the past, which was a blatant reference to Keiichi tricking Satoko with it. Either way, Lambda has always been connected to Satoko, and while Ryukishi probably hadn't intended for her to actually become Lambdadelta when he conceived of her character, it's something he has been working towards for a very long time.

It's interesting to note Lambdadelta could've been a very different character, but Ryukishi was so enamoured with the "super paper" he came up with for her in Turn, that he decided to make that the main guideline for her character from then onwards. She was initially going to be a much more cruel person, in which case she probably would've become more of a Takano-like character, but since Ryukishi decided to go with a more comical approach, the Satoko-like traits won out in the end.
 
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What’s interesting is the author fails to mention shows that would meet her standards and then some. Simoun, for example, is a fantasy war melodrama where all characters are born female. All of them. I’m actually somewhat thankful troons never found out about it, but it just goes to show that these SJWs don’t watch anything but what pops up in the top ten of MAL.
The fact they never mention it is really surprisingly honestly. It was advertised everywhere.
I don't believe for one second that there's any kind of degenerate fetish in existance that hasn't been covered byt the jap drawn porn
There isn't.

Heck, a staggering amount of artist get their start drawing porn.
 
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Reply bug and all, but fair enough, I just wasn't aware of anyone in any of the circles I rolled in at the time associating Lambda with Satoko, and this was back during the 3rd or 4th episode of Umineko. Ryukishi being a disingenuous fuck and changing shit after the fact really isn't a surprise, the entire Umineko manga is basically there to justify Shkanon as his ending choice. But as I said, I was in it when it was a mystery and the last episode very clearly told us mystery fags to fuck off with our logic and shit so the tumblr fans could have their fantasy of Battler with a eunuch. I have no good will left for Ryukishi, he can take his yuri baiting, and good ending ruining, retcons and fuck off.
 
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The fact they never mention it is really surprisingly honestly. It was advertised everywhere.

There isn't.

Heck, a staggering amount of artist get their straw drawing porn.
Don't underestimate the Germans. It is the race to the bottom between them on the degeneracy front
 
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