ITT We argue about how fatties get fat, why they stay fat, and what they should do instead - It's a mystery! It's an obesity sperging containment thread!

Kiana Docherty on YouTube has a few videos on this that are pretty good.

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There's a difference between fat females and fat men. Fat females are big into shaming. They are addicted to shaming themselves over their own body. That's why they always do stupid nonsensical shit like cleansing rituals and detoxifications. Once they do these things they consider themselves absolved from guilt and then start the binge eating cycle all over again. Males are usually just fat because they overeat or get less active as they get older.
Achieving a normal weight isn't difficult, it's the default state. You have to do nothing to reach it. If you feel like it's difficult to reach your normal weight you are psychologically ill.
The difficult state is to build/gain muscle and retain it. That requires you to do work.
 
I personally found using an app like MyFitnessPal and being 1000% honest with it was key for me to start losing weight. I realized where all my empty calories were coming from using that app, anyway, and was willing to make adjustments to my diet based off that. I used to love soda, but after some time of abstaining from it, I now think it is vile shit:
 
Getting fat is easy in a prosperous country, that's why so many people in prosperous countries are fat.
If you check, the vast majority or countries that have a large percentage of obese people are English speaking countries and Arabic countries with huge oil reserves.
What can you do?
Eat healthy, workout regularly and sleep enough hours at the same time of day - all things which are also easy in a prosperous country but you have to actually put effort into it.
Becoming obese doesn't require any effort, that's why more people are obese than fit.

That being said, it is possible to be obese and fit.
Check this out and tell me this dude isn't fit:
Granted, he probably would be able to do even more without all that excess weight but still, it's possible.
 
Becoming obese doesn't require any effort
I disagree somewhat. Buying more stuff to eat requires effort, so does preparing more meals - hell even going down to the nearest fast food joint multiple times a day requires more effort than just not eating more than necessary.
 
I disagree somewhat. Buying more stuff to eat requires effort, so does preparing more meals - hell even going down to the nearest fast food joint multiple times a day requires more effort than just not eating more than necessary.
Maybe it's just where I live but there are fast food places, both corporate and independent, distributed very liberally where I live.
You never have to walk more than a few minutes to get a burger or a pizza.
Takeaways are more popular than ever since corona, even normal restaurants started doing takeaways, you no longer need to go to a restaurant to eat at a restaurant in a lot of places.
 
Well, thank fuck I'm not her

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I definitely agree with that comment, that people do not realize what amount of exhaustion, mental and physical a person of that size is cause they have never lived it. It is daunting for me at half her weight! Not to power level but

* just to offer some perspective about living as a death fat, I actually get a little jealous when I see her clean her freezer or her vanity table and I know I would have to be resteeeen at least five times in between. When we eat pure shit we are malnourished as far as vitamin deficiencies while carrying a massive load. I am getting help and losing now but it’s taken a long time to get the ball rolling a little bit without it falling back on me every time. What I’m doing differently now is addressing the nutritional deficiencies with the doctor and having muh Prozac and now I’m able to start work on the eating better.

Your body gives you cravings for certain foods when you need nutrition. When your body’s only known source for zinc or selenium or whatever the fuck it needs is in a tiny trace amount in some gigantic death fat crap food, your body will crave that desperately and not leave You alone til you get it cause it needs some fucking zinc already! Your body has to learn other sources of finding more of the zinc, a treasure trove of zinc! And it will start to crave that over time, but it takes time for it to get used to the new systems so you might still crave the old sources of nutrients you still had.

So, When she buys the canned potatoes, it’s cause she knows that she is going to not cook and take the easy way out and get fast food otherwise, because what is a little effort to some is an ordeal for others. A lot of the time it isn’t the actual physical ordeal of doing the work, but the mental work of working yourself up to doing it so if you can make the job as convenient and easy as possible for yourself you are much more able to talk yourself into lifting your massive load and carrying it across the room and standing there with it weighing on you while you do the task. And sometimes you need breaks or a chair.

I’m 39 and my body is maxed out at this weight 385, now 365), she is not going to be able to handle her weight at 39 and she will be bedbound or dead.

And she needs to realise that there is no such thing as tomorrow, if you don’t work on your weight loss today, you have nothing. Tomorrow is just a fantasy, only today is real, if you don’t do it today it’s not going to happen.

Fat people get too much satisfaction out of the planning and that satisfies them enough to not do the doing. They talk about all the big plans, get prepped up, convince themselves, then it becomes tomorrow, or next meal or next whatever and it never happens and obesity is a PROGRESSIVE disease. It doesn’t stay steady. Even if You think you are maintaining your weight for many years at the exact same weight (497.2?), your body composition itself is changing as you age, like it does for everybody and you are getting more fat and less muscle and bone as you become an old fat fuck.

And your nutritional deficiencies and illnesses get worse. Then diabetes or bone and joint pain get you or sleep apnea which fucks up your entire system. My relative made it to 82 at 400 plus pounds. But she kept falling and having to have the fire department called to pick her up, and she got dementia even though It was nowhere else in her family, because dementia is a disease of inflammation and fat causes sooooo much inflammation! Her quality of life was horrific and she had to be taken care of for ten years. She had a do not resuscitate and a heart attack finally got her.

They say all disease are rooted in inflammation ackshualllllly , diabetes, cancer, Dementia, arthritis, all of that nasty shit is just a different outcome of inflammation and obese people are massively inflamed due to the obesity.

And the fast food and junk and soda companies know how to addict your ass. My car broke down for two weeks and now home meals and tea and all the stuff I eat when I’m doing well are tasting good to me again and I’m remembering how nasty fast food is. But when you eat it, you crave it all the time and it builds and builds til you are eating it to the exclusion of everything else if you are a food addict. Same thing if you are addicted to soda and it gets extreme, you start drinking it to the exclusion of water.

All fat people are the fat mouse self administering the drug water bottle constantly and excluding all natural, safe, non poisonous water bottles and food bowls. It’s very simple to see but very hard to break free.

I’ve done it millions of times though lol, and if you can get through just a few days to a week it starts turning around! And repeat til you get it! It will probably take many rounds, but you will learn the pattern if you aren’t mentally ill or stupid.

I think the big thing about diets failing is that people eat healthy and cut calories drastically immediately and freak the fuck out. Why not start with eating as many calories of healthy food as you want in the beginning to wean yourself over and as you are ready; start decreasing portion sizes of the new healthy foods and exercising more as your chronic progressive illness starts to improve a bit.

And then never be an idiot and go back to that McDonald’s or Coca Cola or whatever because you see how your personal body and mind sperg the fuck out to it. Other people can have it here and there, their body doesn’t chimp out at the smell or thought of it! Your body does! You can’t be eating that! Accept it or die.

Sorry for power level a bit and rant but I wanted to share insight from the death fat side of the tracks. *
 
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I definitely agree with that comment, that people do not realize what amount of exhaustion, mental and physical a person of that size is cause they have never lived it. It is daunting for me at half her weight! Not to power level but just to offer some perspective about living as a death fat, I actually get a little jealous when I see her clean her freezer or her vanity table and I know I would have to be resteeeen at least five times in between. When we eat pure shit we are malnourished as far as vitamin deficiencies while carrying a massive load. I am getting help and losing now but it’s taken a long time to get the ball rolling a little bit without it falling back on me every time. What I’m doing differently now is addressing the nutritional deficiencies with the doctor and having muh Prozac and now I’m able to start work on the eating better.

Your body gives you cravings for certain foods when you need nutrition. When your body’s only known source for zinc or selenium or whatever the fuck it needs is in a tiny trace amount in some gigantic death fat crap food, your body will crave that desperately and not leave You alone til you get it cause it needs some fucking zinc already! Your body has to learn other sources of finding more of the zinc, a treasure trove of zinc! And it will start to crave that over time, but it takes time for it to get used to the new systems so you might still crave the old sources of nutrients you still had.

So, When she buys the canned potatoes, it’s cause she knows that she is going to not cook and take the easy way out and get fast food otherwise, because what is a little effort to some is an ordeal for others. A lot of the time it isn’t the actual physical ordeal of doing the work, but the mental work of working yourself up to doing it so if you can make the job as convenient and easy as possible for yourself you are much more able to talk yourself into lifting your massive load and carrying it across the room and standing there with it weighing on you while you do the task. And sometimes you need breaks or a chair.

I’m 39 and my body is maxed out at this weight 385, now 365), she is not going to be able to handle her weight at 39 and she will be bedbound or dead.

And she needs to realise that there is no such thing as tomorrow, if you don’t work on your weight loss today, you have nothing. Tomorrow is just a fantasy, only today is real, if you don’t do it today it’s not going to happen.

Fat people get too much satisfaction out of the planning and that satisfies them enough to not do the doing. They talk about all the big plans, get prepped up, convince themselves, then it becomes tomorrow, or next meal or next whatever and it never happens and obesity is a PROGRESSIVE disease. It doesn’t stay steady. Even if You think you are maintaining your weight for many years at the exact same weight (497.2?), your body composition itself is changing as you age, like it does for everybody and you are getting more fat and less muscle and bone as you become an old fat fuck.

And your nutritional deficiencies and illnesses get worse. Then diabetes or bone and joint pain get you or sleep apnea which fucks up your entire system. My relative made it to 82 at 400 plus pounds. But she kept falling and having to have the fire department called to pick her up, and she got dementia even though It was nowhere else in her family, because dementia is a disease of inflammation and fat causes sooooo much inflammation! Her quality of life was horrific and she had to be taken care of for ten years. She had a do not resuscitate and a heart attack finally got her.

They say all disease are rooted in inflammation ackshualllllly , diabetes, cancer, Dementia, arthritis, all of that nasty shit is just a different outcome of inflammation and obese people are massively inflamed due to the obesity.

And the fast food and junk and soda companies know how to addict your ass. My car broke down for two weeks and now home meals and tea and all the stuff I eat when I’m doing well are tasting good to me again and I’m remembering how nasty fast food is. But when you eat it, you crave it all the time and it builds and builds til you are eating it to the exclusion of everything else if you are a food addict. Same thing if you are addicted to soda and it gets extreme, you start drinking it to the exclusion of water.

All fat people are the fat mouse self administering the drug water bottle constantly and excluding all natural, safe, non poisonous water bottles and food bowls. It’s very simple to see but very hard to break free.

I’ve done it millions of times though lol, and if you can get through just a few days to a week it starts turning around! And repeat til you get it! It will probably take many rounds, but you will learn the pattern if you aren’t mentally ill or stupid.

I think the big thing about diets failing is that people eat healthy and cut calories drastically immediately and freak the fuck out. Why not start with eating as many calories of healthy food as you want in the beginning to wean yourself over and as you are ready; start decreasing portion sizes of the new healthy foods and exercising more as your chronic progressive illness starts to improve a bit.

And then never be an idiot and go back to that McDonald’s or Coca Cola or whatever because you see how your personal body and mind sperg the fuck out to it. Other people can have it here and there, their body doesn’t chimp out at the smell or thought of it! Your body does! You can’t be eating that! Accept it or die.

Sorry for power level a bit and rant but I wanted to share insight from the death fat side of the tracks.
lol you're FAT
 
I definitely agree with that comment, that people do not realize what amount of exhaustion, mental and physical a person of that size is cause they have never lived it. It is daunting for me at half her weight! Not to power level but just to offer some perspective about living as a death fat, I actually get a little jealous when I see her clean her freezer or her vanity table and I know I would have to be resteeeen at least five times in between. When we eat pure shit we are malnourished as far as vitamin deficiencies while carrying a massive load. I am getting help and losing now but it’s taken a long time to get the ball rolling a little bit without it falling back on me every time. What I’m doing differently now is addressing the nutritional deficiencies with the doctor and having muh Prozac and now I’m able to start work on the eating better.

Your body gives you cravings for certain foods when you need nutrition. When your body’s only known source for zinc or selenium or whatever the fuck it needs is in a tiny trace amount in some gigantic death fat crap food, your body will crave that desperately and not leave You alone til you get it cause it needs some fucking zinc already! Your body has to learn other sources of finding more of the zinc, a treasure trove of zinc! And it will start to crave that over time, but it takes time for it to get used to the new systems so you might still crave the old sources of nutrients you still had.

So, When she buys the canned potatoes, it’s cause she knows that she is going to not cook and take the easy way out and get fast food otherwise, because what is a little effort to some is an ordeal for others. A lot of the time it isn’t the actual physical ordeal of doing the work, but the mental work of working yourself up to doing it so if you can make the job as convenient and easy as possible for yourself you are much more able to talk yourself into lifting your massive load and carrying it across the room and standing there with it weighing on you while you do the task. And sometimes you need breaks or a chair.

I’m 39 and my body is maxed out at this weight 385, now 365), she is not going to be able to handle her weight at 39 and she will be bedbound or dead.

And she needs to realise that there is no such thing as tomorrow, if you don’t work on your weight loss today, you have nothing. Tomorrow is just a fantasy, only today is real, if you don’t do it today it’s not going to happen.

Fat people get too much satisfaction out of the planning and that satisfies them enough to not do the doing. They talk about all the big plans, get prepped up, convince themselves, then it becomes tomorrow, or next meal or next whatever and it never happens and obesity is a PROGRESSIVE disease. It doesn’t stay steady. Even if You think you are maintaining your weight for many years at the exact same weight (497.2?), your body composition itself is changing as you age, like it does for everybody and you are getting more fat and less muscle and bone as you become an old fat fuck.

And your nutritional deficiencies and illnesses get worse. Then diabetes or bone and joint pain get you or sleep apnea which fucks up your entire system. My relative made it to 82 at 400 plus pounds. But she kept falling and having to have the fire department called to pick her up, and she got dementia even though It was nowhere else in her family, because dementia is a disease of inflammation and fat causes sooooo much inflammation! Her quality of life was horrific and she had to be taken care of for ten years. She had a do not resuscitate and a heart attack finally got her.

They say all disease are rooted in inflammation ackshualllllly , diabetes, cancer, Dementia, arthritis, all of that nasty shit is just a different outcome of inflammation and obese people are massively inflamed due to the obesity.

And the fast food and junk and soda companies know how to addict your ass. My car broke down for two weeks and now home meals and tea and all the stuff I eat when I’m doing well are tasting good to me again and I’m remembering how nasty fast food is. But when you eat it, you crave it all the time and it builds and builds til you are eating it to the exclusion of everything else if you are a food addict. Same thing if you are addicted to soda and it gets extreme, you start drinking it to the exclusion of water.

All fat people are the fat mouse self administering the drug water bottle constantly and excluding all natural, safe, non poisonous water bottles and food bowls. It’s very simple to see but very hard to break free.

I’ve done it millions of times though lol, and if you can get through just a few days to a week it starts turning around! And repeat til you get it! It will probably take many rounds, but you will learn the pattern if you aren’t mentally ill or stupid.

I think the big thing about diets failing is that people eat healthy and cut calories drastically immediately and freak the fuck out. Why not start with eating as many calories of healthy food as you want in the beginning to wean yourself over and as you are ready; start decreasing portion sizes of the new healthy foods and exercising more as your chronic progressive illness starts to improve a bit.

And then never be an idiot and go back to that McDonald’s or Coca Cola or whatever because you see how your personal body and mind sperg the fuck out to it. Other people can have it here and there, their body doesn’t chimp out at the smell or thought of it! Your body does! You can’t be eating that! Accept it or die.

Sorry for power level a bit and rant but I wanted to share insight from the death fat side of the tracks.
Damn, gorlfriend! Encyclopedia Brittanica shit right der!
 
I think the big thing about diets failing is that people eat healthy and cut calories drastically immediately and freak the fuck out. Why not start with eating as many calories of healthy food as you want in the beginning to wean yourself over and as you are ready; start decreasing portion sizes of the new healthy foods and exercising more as your chronic progressive illness starts to improve a bit.
Or just eat less of the junk you normally eat. The calories are the only thing that matters for weight loss. You can rework your diet for more healthy options as you go.
 
I definitely agree with that comment, that people do not realize what amount of exhaustion, mental and physical a person of that size is cause they have never lived it. It is daunting for me at half her weight! Not to power level but just to offer some perspective about living as a death fat, I actually get a little jealous when I see her clean her freezer or her vanity table and I know I would have to be resteeeen at least five times in between. When we eat pure shit we are malnourished as far as vitamin deficiencies while carrying a massive load. I am getting help and losing now but it’s taken a long time to get the ball rolling a little bit without it falling back on me every time. What I’m doing differently now is addressing the nutritional deficiencies with the doctor and having muh Prozac and now I’m able to start work on the eating better.

Your body gives you cravings for certain foods when you need nutrition. When your body’s only known source for zinc or selenium or whatever the fuck it needs is in a tiny trace amount in some gigantic death fat crap food, your body will crave that desperately and not leave You alone til you get it cause it needs some fucking zinc already! Your body has to learn other sources of finding more of the zinc, a treasure trove of zinc! And it will start to crave that over time, but it takes time for it to get used to the new systems so you might still crave the old sources of nutrients you still had.

So, When she buys the canned potatoes, it’s cause she knows that she is going to not cook and take the easy way out and get fast food otherwise, because what is a little effort to some is an ordeal for others. A lot of the time it isn’t the actual physical ordeal of doing the work, but the mental work of working yourself up to doing it so if you can make the job as convenient and easy as possible for yourself you are much more able to talk yourself into lifting your massive load and carrying it across the room and standing there with it weighing on you while you do the task. And sometimes you need breaks or a chair.

I’m 39 and my body is maxed out at this weight 385, now 365), she is not going to be able to handle her weight at 39 and she will be bedbound or dead.

And she needs to realise that there is no such thing as tomorrow, if you don’t work on your weight loss today, you have nothing. Tomorrow is just a fantasy, only today is real, if you don’t do it today it’s not going to happen.

Fat people get too much satisfaction out of the planning and that satisfies them enough to not do the doing. They talk about all the big plans, get prepped up, convince themselves, then it becomes tomorrow, or next meal or next whatever and it never happens and obesity is a PROGRESSIVE disease. It doesn’t stay steady. Even if You think you are maintaining your weight for many years at the exact same weight (497.2?), your body composition itself is changing as you age, like it does for everybody and you are getting more fat and less muscle and bone as you become an old fat fuck.

And your nutritional deficiencies and illnesses get worse. Then diabetes or bone and joint pain get you or sleep apnea which fucks up your entire system. My relative made it to 82 at 400 plus pounds. But she kept falling and having to have the fire department called to pick her up, and she got dementia even though It was nowhere else in her family, because dementia is a disease of inflammation and fat causes sooooo much inflammation! Her quality of life was horrific and she had to be taken care of for ten years. She had a do not resuscitate and a heart attack finally got her.

They say all disease are rooted in inflammation ackshualllllly , diabetes, cancer, Dementia, arthritis, all of that nasty shit is just a different outcome of inflammation and obese people are massively inflamed due to the obesity.

And the fast food and junk and soda companies know how to addict your ass. My car broke down for two weeks and now home meals and tea and all the stuff I eat when I’m doing well are tasting good to me again and I’m remembering how nasty fast food is. But when you eat it, you crave it all the time and it builds and builds til you are eating it to the exclusion of everything else if you are a food addict. Same thing if you are addicted to soda and it gets extreme, you start drinking it to the exclusion of water.

All fat people are the fat mouse self administering the drug water bottle constantly and excluding all natural, safe, non poisonous water bottles and food bowls. It’s very simple to see but very hard to break free.

I’ve done it millions of times though lol, and if you can get through just a few days to a week it starts turning around! And repeat til you get it! It will probably take many rounds, but you will learn the pattern if you aren’t mentally ill or stupid.

I think the big thing about diets failing is that people eat healthy and cut calories drastically immediately and freak the fuck out. Why not start with eating as many calories of healthy food as you want in the beginning to wean yourself over and as you are ready; start decreasing portion sizes of the new healthy foods and exercising more as your chronic progressive illness starts to improve a bit.

And then never be an idiot and go back to that McDonald’s or Coca Cola or whatever because you see how your personal body and mind sperg the fuck out to it. Other people can have it here and there, their body doesn’t chimp out at the smell or thought of it! Your body does! You can’t be eating that! Accept it or die.

Sorry for power level a bit and rant but I wanted to share insight from the death fat side of the tracks.

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lol you're FAT
Yep and I don’t know how to make a cut for my long posts it sucks

No I don’t! I didn’t even see exactly how long that shit was lol, can any nice mod please help me put it under a cut? I’m sure everybody would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
>fatty doesn't know how to trim the fat from their posts
Imagine my shock.
I reported my own post to ask for help to put a spoiler cause I learned how but it isn’t working, I’ll get it hidden ASAP :)
 
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Or just eat less of the junk you normally eat. The calories are the only thing that matters for weight loss. You can rework your diet for more healthy options as you go.

I’ve done that way too but the problem is you end up getting even less of the vitamins and minerals you are already deficient on and in the end you fuck it up.
Definitely works calorically I’ve done a fast food diet myself but will just end up blowing up into a bigger deathlier fat which even less people would fuck and nastier Laygs.
 
I’ve done that way too but the problem is you end up getting even less of the vitamins and minerals you are already deficient on and in the end you fuck it up.
Yeah, so, just pop one of these and carry on about your day.
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Now that the vitamin and mineral deficiency is taken care of, pick a calorie goal, find foods that fit into that goal. Eat those and only those, watch the pounds fall away.
 
I’ve done that way too but the problem is you end up getting even less of the vitamins and minerals you are already deficient on and in the end you fuck it up.
Definitely works calorically I’ve done a fast food diet myself but will just end up blowing up into a bigger deathlier fat which even less people would fuck and nastier Laygs.
OPS, is that you?
 
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