ITT We argue about how fatties get fat, why they stay fat, and what they should do instead - It's a mystery! It's an obesity sperging containment thread!

[DanishDelight]

No shit sherlock. Just the fact that we're still having to make these studies makes me fume

I agree that it’s a waste of time and money but contrary to the HAES and FA movements, which are decidedly pseudoscientific (and growing) real science needs time to actually conduct the research and go through peer review. It’s the first time in recent medical history that we see so many people trying to peddle the “fat but healthy” myth and I’m guessing this paper is the first of many that will unequivocally prove that there is no such thing. Science for the win (again)!

 

[AbraCadaver]

Surprise, Surprise....lay off the croissants and 'fiber bread
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Turns out carrying around large amounts of excess fat on your body isn’t good for you. Who could have possibly foreseen this result.

 

[Captain Ahab]

Metabolism is largely dependent on your lifestyle, you fat mongoloid. How do you think professional athletes can eat six thousand or ten thousand calories a day and be shredded as a motherfucker? They move.

When idiots like you say metabolism what they actually mean is total energy expenditure throughout the day aka TDEE. The common formula for TDEE is:

TDEE = BMR + TEF + NEAT + TEA

BMR is your basal metabolic rate. It’s what your body needs as a bare minimum to survive, to keep your organs alive, etc. It’s proportional to your size and varies for different age groups and genders. A tiny elderly woman will have a significantly smaller BMR than a 7ft-tall young man regardless of what they do throughout the day. The latter can eat 3,000 kcal and stay thin, whereas the former will get fat on 1,500 kcal. So, yes, in a way, it’s true that some people can eat like you and be thin. But girl... You’re 5ft2 in boots. Do you seriously expect to be able to eat like some Russian Neanderthal who rips trees out of the ground for fun? Get real, you dumb bitch.

However! BMR is only a part of the equation. The rest is entirely dependent on your dietary habits and lifestyle. How much you move around, walk, exercise. Also what you eat. Your body spends energy digesting food. Some foods are more readily digestible than others. Protein is expensive to process. Simple carbs and fats are not.

By changing your diet and lifestyle, you can significantly impact your so-called metabolism. You can literally double it. The granny who could only eat 1,500 kcal could theoretically eat 3,000 kcal and not gain a pound.

In short, you’re a lazy cunt who eats shitty food, and your slow metabolism is physical evidence thereof.

 

[RMQualtrough]

"Points" lol.

Lol @ these laughable weight loss schemes.

 

[Cataloons]

See, the thing is that "intuitive eating" can work, provided that you're the kind of person who can stick to a diet. When done right it helps you make better food choices. As in, do you *really* need those fries, or can you sub something that has salt but less fat? It's based on the theory that when you crave something, it's because your body is missing some kind of nutrient or whatever. You crave bananas because your body needs a hit of potassium and magnesium. When a vegetarian is having a weird craving for steak, it's probably because they are iron deficient.

But it's not an excuse to eat ALL the food at all times. That's the part that Chantal is missing.

 

[PetrifiedTom]

Some warthog hit me on Tinder and her bio was like:

I don't have the body of fashion model and I am slightly overweight but that's because I am severly ill

You may ask what was she dealling with. Diabetes. *Severly**ill* diabetic. There's simply nothing she could do looking like Amberlynn Reid. Maybe the gyms are closed for last year but that didn't happened over night and she woke up some day astonished with weight of 500lbs.

Fuck fatties blaimg *genes* or some illness caused by throwing to their mouth everything within reach of their hands.

 

[RMQualtrough]

See, the thing is that "intuitive eating" can work, provided that you're the kind of person who can stick to a diet. When done right it helps you make better food choices. As in, do you *really* need those fries, or can you sub something that has salt but less fat? It's based on the theory that when you crave something, it's because your body is missing some kind of nutrient or whatever. You crave bananas because your body needs a hit of potassium and magnesium. When a vegetarian is having a weird craving for steak, it's probably because they are iron deficient.

But it's not an excuse to eat ALL the food at all times. That's the part that Chantal is missing.

It doesn't work, you can get obese on "healthy" foods easily. You have to substitute stuff AND calorie count to lose weight if you're prone to overeating.

Intuitive eating works for people who have normal appetites etc. who will literally never get obese unless they actively tried very hard, and then would lose it super fast because it's unnatural for them. If you're naturally prone to being fat then your intuition is trying to make you fat.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

Some warthog hit me on Tinder and her bio was like:


You may ask what was she dealling with. Diabetes. *Severly**ill* diabetic. There's simply nothing she could do looking like Amberlynn Reid. Maybe the gyms are closed for last year but that didn't happened over night and she woke up some day astonished with weight of 500lbs.

Fuck fatties blaimg *genes* or some illness caused by throwing to their mouth everything within reach of their hands.

Ah yes, just what a person looking for love or sex wants to take on- a morbidly obese, chronically ill sow

 

[Myra]

I don't have the body of fashion model and I am slightly overweight but that's because I am severly ill

I don't for a minute believe this person is only "slightly" fat.

 

[Stanley_Buttkiss]

She's feeling ill after eating all that Timmies because - she's diabetic and just consumed a fuck ton of carbs and sugar. Carbs that convert to sugar when broken down. Two things her system can't process normally. Dumb-ass.

 

[Captain Ahab]

Lots of deathfats seem to be under the impression of weight loss = looking amazing without realizing that their body will become one giant flabby stretch mark.

It’s a common deathfat delusion that a better life is just around the corner, that one day something will click in their brain and all of their problems will be gone.

The reality is that most people will never lose weight, just as most drunks will never go sober or most losers won’t suddenly wake up and turn into overachieving workaholics. The odds of permanent weight loss are terrible. The vast majority of people regain all of the weight relatively quickly. Many gain more than what they weighed before their weight loss.

There are many reasons for this. Besides the most obvious ones, I think a big issue is that weight loss just doesn’t live up to their expectations. People like Chantal expect big things to happen after they lose weight. They think the haters will shit themselves from jealousy, that men will throw themselves at their feet, that all of their problems will be gone. It’s not gonna happen. You’ll be just another normal person. The average thin person isn’t attractive or successful or even happy. There is no reason why an ex-fatty would be those things solely because they managed to shed some lard. All of their mental issues and insecurities will still be there. They’ll still be lazy and just as stupid. All that changes is their body composition.

Physically, weight loss won’t be a magic pill. Sure, it’s easier to be active with less lard to carry around, but it won’t suddenly make you fit. You have to work your ass off for that just like everyone else. Many of the health issues caused by obesity can’t really be fixed. Weight loss is more about stopping the damage instead of fixing it.

At the end of the mythical weight loss journey, you’re just gonna be the same person you were before, just as unpopular, awkward, and dumb. All that’s gonna change is that you’ll have lose skin instead of fat. And you still won’t be able to run a marathon or probably even a 5K. You’ll embark on a fitness journey, a s plastic surgery journey. At the end of them all, you’ll just be another regular Joe and the world won’t give a single shit about you or your journeys.

You’ll go back to eating your existential pain away and gain everything back.

 

[SkinnylegendChantal]

It’s a common deathfat delusion that a better life is just around the corner, that one day something will click in their brain and all of their problems will be gone.

The reality is that most people will never lose weight, just as most drunks will never go sober or most losers won’t suddenly wake up and turn into overachieving workaholics. The odds of permanent weight loss are terrible. The vast majority of people regain all of the weight relatively quickly. Many gain more than what they weighed before their weight loss.

There are many reasons for this. Besides the most obvious ones, I think a big issue is that weight loss just doesn’t live up to their expectations. People like Chantal expect big things to happen after they lose weight. They think the haters will shit themselves from jealousy, that men will throw themselves at their feet, that all of their problems will be gone. It’s not gonna happen. You’ll be just another normal person. The average thin person isn’t attractive or successful or even happy. There is no reason why an ex-fatty would be those things solely because they managed to shed some lard. All of their mental issues and insecurities will still be there. They’ll still be lazy and just as stupid. All that changes is their body composition.

Physically, weight loss won’t be a magic pill. Sure, it’s easier to be active with less lard to carry around, but it won’t suddenly make you fit. You have to work your ass off for that just like everyone else. Many of the health issues caused by obesity can’t really be fixed. Weight loss is more about stopping the damage instead of fixing it.

At the end of the mythical weight loss journey, you’re just gonna be the same person you were before, just as unpopular, awkward, and dumb. All that’s gonna change is that you’ll have lose skin instead of fat. And you still won’t be able to run a marathon or probably even a 5K. You’ll embark on a fitness journey, a s plastic surgery journey. At the end of them all, you’ll just be another regular Joe and the world won’t give a single shit about you or your journeys.

You’ll go back to eating your existential pain away and gain everything back.

Agreed, with one caveat. I tend to think it is possible to lose weight if you go about it as a form of self-improvement, when eating better is because you not only want to shed the pounds, but be healthier/in better shape/take up a hobby etc. Where people often go wrong, is focusing only on shedding the pounds as quickly as possible, thereby going on a miserable fad diet. This leads to people thinking that if they just manage a horrible diet for x amount of time then they can go back to their previous habits, which leads to gaining it all back. This is of course where Chinny fails miserably, she doesn't understand that thin people who eat sweets, fatty foods etc always compensate for it somehow. That's how people eat without counting calories- eating healthy 90% of the time and being somewhat physically active.

edit to add: portion control is an obvious factor of successful weightloss/staying thin

 

[mikey347]

Agreed, with one caveat. I tend to think it is possible to lose weight if you go about it as a form of self-improvement, when eating better is because you not only want to shed the pounds, but be healthier/in better shape/take up a hobby etc. Where people often go wrong, is focusing only on shedding the pounds as quickly as possible, thereby going on a miserable fad diet. This leads to people thinking that if they just manage a horrible diet for x amount of time then they can go back to their previous habits, which leads to gaining it all back. This is of course where Chinny fails miserably, she doesn't understand that thin people who eat sweets, fatty foods etc always compensate for it somehow. That's how people eat without counting calories- eating healthy 90% of the time and being somewhat physically active.

edit to add: portion control is an obvious factor of successful weightloss/staying thin

I’m glad you added this. I mostly agree that most people won’t sustain weight loss. They may lose weight, but often they just pack it back on. And that’s because long term healthy sustained weight loss requires a fundamental change in literally everything they are. That’s why people preach “lifestyle change” instead of diet. Like, they aren’t kidding. You actually have to change your life and adopt an entirely different way of living to lose weight which mostly includes giving a shit about stuff. And we all Chantal will never give a shit about anything except herself. So you kiwis on your own lifestyle change - keep at it homies. It’s worth it.

 

[AbraCadaver]

I'll bet Bibi still falls to his knees on occasion, thanking God that he's free of that toxic behemoth..

You ever wonder what it would be like for an obese person if, just for an hour, you magically lifted all the excess weight off their bodies all at once, like removing 200-250lbs of sandbags from them that they’d been carrying for years? How light would they feel? Would they be dizzy from how fast and easily they can move? How much breathing comes naturally now? Would they be overjoyed they could now run and jump and twirl? Would they feel practically superhuman from the difference, like they could almost fly?

I bet Bibi feels like that a lot lately. Someone lifted 400+ lbs of sandbags off him and now he can finally breathe.

"One of everything with everything on it. And a diet soda. gotta keep my girlish figure." --rocko's modern life

Chantal walks into a restaurant and says “I’ll have what I’m having.” Whatever it is, bring two of it.

It’s a common deathfat delusion that a better life is just around the corner, that one day something will click in their brain and all of their problems will be gone.

The reality is that most people will never lose weight, just as most drunks will never go sober or most losers won’t suddenly wake up and turn into overachieving workaholics. The odds of permanent weight loss are terrible. The vast majority of people regain all of the weight relatively quickly. Many gain more than what they weighed before their weight loss.

There are many reasons for this. Besides the most obvious ones, I think a big issue is that weight loss just doesn’t live up to their expectations. People like Chantal expect big things to happen after they lose weight. They think the haters will shit themselves from jealousy, that men will throw themselves at their feet, that all of their problems will be gone. It’s not gonna happen. You’ll be just another normal person. The average thin person isn’t attractive or successful or even happy. There is no reason why an ex-fatty would be those things solely because they managed to shed some lard. All of their mental issues and insecurities will still be there. They’ll still be lazy and just as stupid. All that changes is their body composition.

Physically, weight loss won’t be a magic pill. Sure, it’s easier to be active with less lard to carry around, but it won’t suddenly make you fit. You have to work your ass off for that just like everyone else. Many of the health issues caused by obesity can’t really be fixed. Weight loss is more about stopping the damage instead of fixing it.

At the end of the mythical weight loss journey, you’re just gonna be the same person you were before, just as unpopular, awkward, and dumb. All that’s gonna change is that you’ll have lose skin instead of fat. And you still won’t be able to run a marathon or probably even a 5K. You’ll embark on a fitness journey, a s plastic surgery journey. At the end of them all, you’ll just be another regular Joe and the world won’t give a single shit about you or your journeys.

You’ll go back to eating your existential pain away and gain everything back.

Yeah, the key lies in asking an obese person, “why do you want to lose weight?”

If the answer is “to be skinnier and more attractive, to fit into X size dress finally, to get more dates...and uh I guess be healthier or whatever,” they will likely fail to either lose or keep the weight off.

If the answer is, “because my current lifestyle is unsustainable, it’s killing me, I feel tired and in pain a lot and I want to live a healthier, more active life and live longer,” they will have a far better chance of taking the weight off and keeping it off, because they’re planning to make a change to their life, not just their dress/suit size.

It’s like asking an alcoholic why they want to get sober. If they answer “because my life is a wreck and I’m killing myself and I need to change,” that’s a good indicator of potential success. Not guarantees, but potential.

If they answer “because I need to pass a sobriety test to get this job,” well fuck. They aren’t staying sober a minute longer than they have to be.

That’s what the diet industry is like. People try to get sober for a month, doing mad things like drinking no liquids at all, or only drinking celery juice, or drinking alcohol-free vodka-flavoured substitutes....or they do sober up proper, but then expect to go back to drinking themselves under the table every night and still stay sober.

Then they conclude that getting sober just doesn’t work and some people were just naturally meant to be alcoholics.

 

[boxybum]

Agreed, with one caveat. I tend to think it is possible to lose weight if you go about it as a form of self-improvement, when eating better is because you not only want to shed the pounds, but be healthier/in better shape/take up a hobby etc. Where people often go wrong, is focusing only on shedding the pounds as quickly as possible, thereby going on a miserable fad diet. This leads to people thinking that if they just manage a horrible diet for x amount of time then they can go back to their previous habits, which leads to gaining it all back. This is of course where Chinny fails miserably, she doesn't understand that thin people who eat sweets, fatty foods etc always compensate for it somehow. That's how people eat without counting calories- eating healthy 90% of the time and being somewhat physically active.

edit to add: portion control is an obvious factor of successful weightloss/staying thin

Not only that but people who are "naturally thin" still eat shitty foods. They just don't eat a family sized portion. Maybe one hamburger and a medium fries. Or 2 slices of pizza. She doesn't seem to understand that she can eat all that shitty junk food, she just needs to eat less of it.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Not only that but people who are "naturally thin" still eat shitty foods. They just don't eat a family sized portion. Maybe one hamburger and a medium fries. Or 2 slices of pizza. She doesn't seem to understand that she can eat all that shitty junk food, she just needs to eat less of it.

Yeah, people who are “naturally thin” are also getting takeaway maybe once a week, or more likely, once every two weeks. Maybe they order a pizza once every other week. They don’t hop on grubhub or ubereats or doordash every single day.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

Deathfats like Chantal who have waddled for years have to relearn how to walk normally if they lose the weight. I recall seeing that on MSHPL somewhere.

 

[Edith Puthy]

It’s a common deathfat delusion that a better life is just around the corner, that one day something will click in their brain and all of their problems will be gone.

The reality is that most people will never lose weight, just as most drunks will never go sober or most losers won’t suddenly wake up and turn into overachieving workaholics. The odds of permanent weight loss are terrible. The vast majority of people regain all of the weight relatively quickly. Many gain more than what they weighed before their weight loss.

There are many reasons for this. Besides the most obvious ones, I think a big issue is that weight loss just doesn’t live up to their expectations. People like Chantal expect big things to happen after they lose weight. They think the haters will shit themselves from jealousy, that men will throw themselves at their feet, that all of their problems will be gone. It’s not gonna happen. You’ll be just another normal person. The average thin person isn’t attractive or successful or even happy. There is no reason why an ex-fatty would be those things solely because they managed to shed some lard. All of their mental issues and insecurities will still be there. They’ll still be lazy and just as stupid. All that changes is their body composition.

Physically, weight loss won’t be a magic pill. Sure, it’s easier to be active with less lard to carry around, but it won’t suddenly make you fit. You have to work your ass off for that just like everyone else. Many of the health issues caused by obesity can’t really be fixed. Weight loss is more about stopping the damage instead of fixing it.

At the end of the mythical weight loss journey, you’re just gonna be the same person you were before, just as unpopular, awkward, and dumb. All that’s gonna change is that you’ll have lose skin instead of fat. And you still won’t be able to run a marathon or probably even a 5K. You’ll embark on a fitness journey, a s plastic surgery journey. At the end of them all, you’ll just be another regular Joe and the world won’t give a single shit about you or your journeys.

You’ll go back to eating your existential pain away and gain everything back.

Actually, many of the health concerns caused or exacerbated by obesity can be reduced or reversed by weight loss. That's why it's so insane that they refuse to lose even enough weight to, say, stop being at imminent risk of stroke or heart attack.

 

[clusterfuckk]

Deathfats like Chantal who have waddled for years have to relearn how to walk normally if they lose the weight. I recall seeing that on MSHPL somewhere.

I won’t pl to explain how I know this is true but it is absolutely true along with recognizing yourself in a mirror or whatever after losing weight. It’s not just a matter of the pounds being gone. It’s a mindfuck for the people who are successful. Many people began to feel a dissociation of themselves because it is legitimately like someone lifted a 100 pound sandbag off you and you move differently, breathe easier and like I mentioned you may not recognize yourself. Your mind has to change it’s focus from food to other things. Of course this applies more to people who are successful and doing it for the right reasons.

 

[TrainWreckSpotter]

I won’t pl to explain how I know this is true but it is absolutely true along with recognizing yourself in a mirror or whatever after losing weight. It’s not just a matter of the pounds being gone. It’s a mindfuck for the people who are successful. Many people began to feel a dissociation of themselves because it is legitimately like someone lifted a 100 pound sandbag off you and you move differently, breathe easier and like I mentioned you may not recognize yourself. Your mind has to change it’s focus from food to other things. Of course this applies more to people who are successful and doing it for the right reasons.

BUT, as we all know, Chantal is too lazy and completely without self-awareness. She keeps eye-fucking herself and complaining about her hair. Girl, what your hair looks like is the LEAST of your problems. For a start, have you ever noticed them three chins and the fact that you can't walk and breathe at the same time?

Also, the constant mantra of hers: "You can eat what you want and still lose weight." OK, Bitch, PROVE IT!!!