J.K. Rowling needs to stop messing with Harry Potter - A general STFU J.K. Rowling MegaThread <3

[Adolf Von Merkel]

To be fair, you had to be wanting to find that hole that fits your peg to think anything in those books had anything to do with Dumbldore's sexuality.

@Splendid Meat Sticks is right, tho. The grindelwald/dumbledore relation in the last book can be seeing as a romance or a friendship.Is not that hard to understand.
People cry about forced diversity and SJW, but you aren't better than those snowflake if you are still salty by "dumbledore is gay" and need to treat people who disagree with you as faggot.

 

[Adamska]

I'll just note that what Rowling does is pretty much what I call 'ex cathedra', or from the chair. Essentially all she's doing is abusing the Word of God and declaring shit from her literary throne about the world she made to try and desperately stay relevant. Ex cathedra is often just an excuse for the writer to pretend to still have some form of control over their work when they can't be arsed to actually take it back by producing a work. These sorts of statements often covers stuff that's not in the material itself, or is used to cover whenever the author wants to push an agenda but is afraid it'd hurt sales or is cynically designed to get the stupids to buy it who hear of the statements. They can also be used as asspulls to forgive low quality work or to force something to change that has been established for years and across media as well. Lastly, it's often a scummy ploy by creators get the tribalists who hover around it to do the apologia for the author's own lacking product.

I'm of the mind that whenever an author does this shit, you can safely disregard the statement and can readily apply discontinuity. This is mostly since if the creator or corporate don't care enough to put it in their work in the first place and just want to tell a story or ram home a political message and damn the previous word building or details, then it is to be dismissed and ignored by the autistic nerd equivalent of precedent.

tl;dr I have type 13 Autism, but Rowling has type 15 Desperate Hack-Fraud Disorder and you can just ignore her shrieking.

 

[Kulee Baba]

What a lovely little bed of autism that entire post is. Reminds me of Moviebob and his infamous “What would Mario and Link think of Gamergate?” pondering.

Harry Potter is a great series that helped millions of children find a love for reading. At the end of the day Rowling’s work is a giant net positive. But losing sleep over whether Harry Potter would want to boycott the State of Israel is some straight up lunacy. Speaking of Jews major laughs at the author then whining over the lack of Jewish representation, as if it was her way of saying “Hey I might not like how Arabs are treated in Israel but I definitely don’t hate Jews... some of my best friends are Jews!”

You read fantasy to encourage daydreaming which is a very healthy thing to do. When you seriously start applying fantasy to everyday life and worry about the characters well you’re really getting fucked in the head.

Star Wars is my Harry Potter, a series made for children that I’m greatly attached to. I love to shit on Disney Wars and yet I do not lose sleep over them, and I really don’t care that I don’t agree with any of George Lucas’s very left wing politics.

 

[Zaryiu]

You know what?



I'll agree with this. Fuck it, I read Harry Pottery (in high school, granted, but they were quick and fun reads, so why not?), and I've seen the movies. It wasn't the Best Thing Ever or nothing, but it was a fun work. Why the fuck Rowling herself needs to keep fucking with it, I dunno... I thought she was already a frooptillionaire from them.

Just let the damned books be books. They were fun. Both Rowling and Millennials need to take a step back. Rowling needs to.get her head out her ass. Millennials need to stop trying to replace religion with Harry Potter. The world would be a better place for both things.

 

[MW 002]

Finally an article from Kotaku I agree with.

People need to stop treating Harry Potter like as though it’s more than what it actually is and Rowling needs to move on.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Oh goddamn it you reminded me this song exists now its stuck in my head once again

Fucking hell imma have to listen to a bunch of animeee music to get this shit out of my skull

Yeah that takes me back, don't wanna sidetrack but that early 80's children's cartoon scene really had some good funk bass music in them see Unico:

 

[Luthien]

Long story short, J.K. Rowling is the exact proof of how it's better sometimes to just fade into obscurity and simply remain a cherished memory in some people's minds.

 

[Andrew Neiman]

Dumbledore being gay never struck me as gratuitous. It seemed somehow consistent with his character, and it's not like the HP universe (as established in the books, not the Twitterverse) was full of sex, so it seemed plausible that a character's being gay wouldn't make it back to the reader explicitly. It doesn't strike me as gratuitous in the way that Harry being a Zionist and the Hufflepuff common room orgies or whatever do.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Dumbledore being gay never struck me as gratuitous. It seemed somehow consistent with his character, and it's not like the HP universe (as established in the books, not the Twitterverse) was full of sex, so it seemed plausible that a character's being gay wouldn't make it back to the reader explicitly. It doesn't strike me as gratuitous in the way that Harry being a Zionist and the Hufflepuff common room orgies or whatever do.

If Dumbledore being gay had anything to do with the stories, it would have been in the stories. But it didn't, so it wasn't. The stupid thing is altering, or defining a character like this outside the stories themselves.

So in my viewpoint "Dumbledore is gay" is equally as stupid as "Dumbledore is straight" or "Dumbledore likes jacking off to scat porn". But then saying he's gay also scores you points with the woke crowd, so most people sensibly assume that's why she did it. Pandering is lame.

I wonder if the complainers and the people who complain about the complainers would reverse if Rowling had come out and said "Nope all your fanfic is wrong Dumbledore is straight as an arrow". Because I bet accusations of homophobia would have come out immediately.

 

[Adamska]

Dumbledore being gay never struck me as gratuitous. It seemed somehow consistent with his character, and it's not like the HP universe (as established in the books, not the Twitterverse) was full of sex, so it seemed plausible that a character's being gay wouldn't make it back to the reader explicitly. It doesn't strike me as gratuitous in the way that Harry being a Zionist and the Hufflepuff common room orgies or whatever do.

It's not really gratuitous; it's just pointless and a sign of authors being allowed to be lazy when it comes to the setting they created. Why write when you can declare like the Pope how your shitty world works, all while ignoring the bulk of your actual work in the process?

 

[Mrs Paul]

I'll confess that I'm a big HP fan -- in fact, I'm rereading it right now. THAT SAID, I like it because I find it an entertaining series. It's NOT profound literature, it's not Tolstoy, or Shakespeare. Sometimes you know, you want to read something that's just not really all that deep. And because I like to read more than one book at a time, and I'm reading some non-fiction, I need something light as well.


People need to stop taking this shit to seriously. Harry Potter is supposed to be fun. The whole, "Dumbledore was gay, and she didn't portray him as gay!!!" Well, she didn't portray the other teachers as straight either. We didn't really hear about their love lives, unless you count Lupin.

It's like, you can enjoy a book, or a movie, or whatever. Fine. I like a lot of dorky shit. But I don't take it seriously, or see Dumbledore as Gandhi or anything like that. Nor do I harass authors because I don't like the way the story turns out. Because, you know, I can separate fact from fiction and I have a life.

They wanted to know more about the background of the story, but apparently, they're pissed because it's not what THEY wanted to hear. Boo fucking hoo.

(Plus she's right about Corbyn. The guy's an anti-semitic jackass)

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

We didn't really hear about their love lives, unless you count Lupin.

The irony is one of the very few contemporary on-screen/in-text romances we're given is canon is almost universally subverted in the fandom in favor of Remus X Sirius pairings.

Because he's a werewolf, which certain LGBT folks deiced can only belong to queers.

Listen, my fellow faggots... Just because Bisclavret can be read as a homosexual allegory doesn't mean all werewolf stories everywhere are.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

apparently even Lupin's actor thought he was gay when he first read the PoA script (IIRC Cuaron also thought Sirius and Lupin were meant to be gay)

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Maybe Rowling should stop messing with Harry Potter, but I think it's more likely that her readers need to move on to books for grown-ups. That pretentious crusty old fuck Harold Bloom once said that Harry Potter books were so bad that they didn't encourage readers to graduate to more challenging material. At the time, I thought he was just being his pretentious crusty old fuck self. Turns out he was right.

 

[WeDrinkRitalin]

Everything about this is correct. I understand wanting to add to your own stories and continue them, I have played games that have done the same. It can create a beautiful timelime as long as you do not break your original story.

Jk is just full of bs now and she is a people pleaser. Nobody likes a people pleaser because it is not genuine. As someone who obsessed about the series for almost 10 years, not every type of character can be front and center but she does like to backtrack.

I will always feel that Hermoine was a white girl, there was all the signs that she was. When the book covers were art, she could have chose a black girl for the art but she didn't and when the movies came out she was so anal about the people fitting descriptions. She intended her to be white and that will always piss me off that she tried to shake down her audience by negating things she wrote.

Almost everything this person wrote is so true. Why not write stuff for the American School? I would jump on that in a second.

apparently even Lupin's actor thought he was gay when he first read the PoA script (IIRC Cuaron also thought Sirius and Lupin were meant to be gay)

Eh, everyone makes out that the brotherly hug was confirmation of gay, lol.

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

I honestly never had a problem with the idea that Dumbledore was gay. I also never gave a shit because it didn't matter to the story being told and I never gave it an ounce of though before JK decided to make a big deal out of it.
Granted it does explain a few things, like his utter devotion to a despotic psychopath like Grindelwald and his occasional flamboyancy (Purple velvet suit being a prime example), but at the end of the day it's just a character trait that was never explored and people are now trying to treat it like some progressive masterpiece when it fucking isn't.

 

[Faggot Gift]

A lot of the reviews of the new HP movie say that basically Rowling (who didn't write the original films but are writing these new ones) went crazy adding maximalist plot elements and characters and no one had the guts to stand up to her and tell her to stop. Wow a narcissistic author with no one to stop her attempting to write a screenplay not realizing movies aren't books, that's never happened before

 

[Xerxes IX]

I saw an explanation that it wasn't a big deal in the books because they're written from Harry's point of view even if it's in third person, and why would Harry care about what kind of people his grandpa figure wants to fuck? That makes perfect sense to me, but I guess this means Harry is a homophobe and people need to move on to other books in that case.

 

[Ruin]

She was a working class mother when she wrote the first two books which turned out alright but hanging out with Hollywood woketards and socialites has broken her brain.

 

[Zaryiu]

It's almost like Dumbledore being gay wasn't in anything before JK spergout because it didn't exist then and even then had nothing to do with anything in the story, almost like JK pulled a retcon to get attention