James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

The reviews aren’t giving me much hope that it’s going to be much better than the first movie
The score is going down, 83% now on RT. His best hope is it ends up like JW Dominion and makes a shitload even with bad reviews and word of mouth.
 
If this movie bombs it’s going to be a spectacular bombing; especially with how cocky James Cameron has been acting lately.

But on the other hand, I’ll only feel a bit bad because this is clearly his passion project. I feel that Pandora would’ve worked great as an open world MMO backdrop with several space races/factions fighting over resources (or something like that anyway).

The reviews aren’t giving me much hope that it’s going to be much better than the first movie

Edit: I accidentally triple posted due to ghetto internet connection over here. RIP
 
I hope the movie will not live up to the first one, audience interest turns out to be lukewarm and Cameron's ego takes a massive hit. His screeching would be music to my ears.
It already doesn't look good. Jimmy boy couldn't attend the LA premier, cause the coof got him. The reviews aren't all 11/10, there are surprising amount of unfavorable ones. Sure 83% is not bad, but you just know Cameron expects nothing less than 100% asskissing. I know this is purely anecdotal, but I haven't heard anyone talk about Avatar since the first one. There is no buzz surrounding the sequel. I just checked the local cinema still has plenty of free space left for the weekend.
 
But on the other hand, I’ll only feel a bit bad because this is clearly his passion project.
I know in my earlier posts I come off as someone who has a chip on his shoulder, but I agree with you to some extent.
To clarify. I do think James Cameron has talent and made great movies, some of which are my favorites. On the other hand, he is a narcissistic asshole who has become terribly self-important, due to his success. He could use a reality check.
Avatar is a pet peeve of mine, because it made me feel like the world is irredeemebly fucked. I didn't understand the hype surrounding the movie, despite the great visuals, the na'vi looked unappealing in my opinion. It was evident, that the story is just an extra preachy Dances with Wolves/Pocahontas rip-off, with an environmentalist, "humanz are ebul" take. The movie was mediocre at best, yet people lapped it up. Then came the articles, about how people got depressed after the movie, because they had to return to their harmful human lives. Everyone seemingly turned into a misanthropic furfag overnight, who sought to throw away their humanity to bone some blue gypsy catwoman. Fortunately, it passed. I was hoping it was just a fluke and it felt like that for a short while. Then came the endless hordes of mindless consumers and lunatics in all of their crazy forms. Bronies, SJWs, danger hair feminists and the fucking trannies.
I am not saying Avatar was responsible for all this, but the reaction to the movie certainly was a red flag for me. A bad omen.
 
3 hours long
I have no idea how such a flimsy plot can be stretched out to 3 hours. Hell, sitting through any movie that is 3 hours long is daunting, even if it's exciting and, or interesting. I expect there will be a bunch of scenes, where the blue cats are aimlessly frolicking and molesting alien wildlife.
I personally do not plan to watch this movie at all, not even morbid curiosity can convince me this time.
 
I have no idea how such a flimsy plot can be stretched out to 3 hours. Hell, sitting through any movie that is 3 hours long is daunting, even if it's exciting and, or interesting. I expect there will be a bunch of scenes, where the blue cats are aimlessly frolicking and molesting alien wildlife.
I personally do not plan to watch this movie at all, not even morbid curiosity can convince me this time.
They're all saying the first 2 hours are a boring slog with a worse story than the first one and the last hour is action packed. I'm real curious to see from people on this thread have to say.
 
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But on the other hand, I’ll only feel a bit bad because this is clearly his passion project.
Hollywood passion projects are routinely shit. The worst ones are actor based projects, but with directors it's a lot of time a book they try to force into a film. Avatar... Would have been a terrible book by how lazy, uninspired and fetishistic it is, cutting it down to 2.5 hours at least had an eye candy and a sane length, but it very well have been the herald of Hollywood culture dying for the past decade+
 
The main thing what I always found repulsive about Avatar, is its message, which says, it's A-OK to throw away your humanity and completely betray your own species. I am not sure if it was intentional, a precursor of progressive lunacy, or just a colossal fuck up of the "white man falls in love with savage princess" trope. The trope only works, if the protagonist realizes the difference between him and the savages is purely superficial and ideological, everyone involved is human, so fighting is just a pointless waste of life. But in Avatar the savages are weird, alien, cat prople and humans can only interact with them, if they become creepy skinwalkers. Humanity is also on the verge of extinction, to survive, they need that unobtainium (real subtle James). Jake Sully's task is to find a peaceful way to obtain it, but he does fuck all to achieve this goal. He just falls in love with the blue chick, turns on humanity on a dime, essentially dooming it and IIRC manages to transfer his mind into his artificial na'vi body, killing his human self.
It promotes the dystopian nightmare the elites wish to achieve. You should inherently feel bad for existing, you should force yourself to live in a pod and escape into an artificial happy place, where you can be anything, but yourself. If you still cannot cope with your filthy existence, the state gladly euthonazis you. All this, to protect the holy environment.
 
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How was it?
I won't rant on too long, because I am not a good writer, and I am certain I am going to be a lot more lenient than some of you Kiwi's that are also going to see it.

20 PERCENT MOVIE + 80 PERCENT JAMES CAMERON'S AUTISTIC SPECIAL INTEREST

This movie legitimately could be wrapped up with in 40-60 minutes if you took out every scene that did not advance the plot.

What I liked:
- Visually the environments and creatures were stunning, to no ones surprise.
- The setting lent it self well to the more water based theme, the water Navi honestly look a lot better than the forest ones (imo) and the water creatures look alien but are still grounded enough that they don't look completely retarded like the animals from the first film. I actually could suspend my disbelief that these creatures would exist this time around.
- There's always a bigger fish scene. (Idk I just like seeing big monsters fight)
- Jemaine Clement

What I disliked:
- Navi still look shit, even if I think the water ones look better overall. When you put them next to a human it just completely takes you out because it becomes obvious how fake they are.
- THIS MOVIE IS LONG AND IT MAKES YOU FEEL ITS LENGTH.
- The finale was a total gay ass pull and I completely believe all the characters were competent enough to get themselves out of each of their individual situations so it was entirely unnecessary.
- This movie did not need to be made, it tread no new ground from the first movie, honestly, it just felt exactly the same as the first movie but the plot condensed.

I give it 3/10. It looked lovely, thats about it. James Cameron's world is beautiful, he should just make a video game or something at this point instead of making the same boring movie 4 times.
 
To be perfectly honest, besides James Cameron did anyone truly want a sequel to Avatar? Was there like a fandom waiting all this time?
 
The main thing what I always found repulsive about Avatar, is its message, which says, it's A-OK to throw away your humanity and completely betray your own species. I am not sure if it was intentional, a precursor of progressive lunacy, or just a colossal fuck up of the "white man falls in love with savage princess" trope. The trope only works, if the protagonist realizes the difference between him and the savages is purely superficial and ideological, everyone involved is human, so fighting is just a pointless waste of life. But in Avatar the savages are weird, alien, cat prople and humans can only interact with them, if they become creepy skinwalkers. Humanity is also on the verge of extinction, to survive, they need that unobtainium (real subtle James). Jake Sully's task is to find a peaceful way to obtain it, but he does fuck all to achieve this goal. He just falls in love with the blue chick, turns on humanity on a dime, essentially dooming it and IIRC manages to transfer his mind into his artificial na'vi body, killing his human self.
It promotes the dystopian nightmare the elites wish to achieve. You should inherently feel bad for existing, you should force yourself to live in a pod and escape into an artificial happy place, where you can be anything, but yourself. If you still cannot cope with your filthy existence, the state gladly euthonazis you. All this, to protect the holy environment.

Seriously, I dunno who's more obnoxious people who cry about "muh nature" like a bad broken record or retarded numbnuts like you. It's just a pompous movie with a bad plot and flat characters, stop trying to pretend "It's all a conspiracy maaan! Dis is wut dem elites wanna do about us maaan!" like holy fucking shit dude, get a life.
 
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