James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

[Gar For Archer]

I think all the titles came out.

And does anyone even really care about these films anymore?

Yeah, this movie came like 10 years too late. It could’ve been a franchise if it was capitalized on earlier, but who the fuck cares about an Avatar sequel (much less four) in current year+6?

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Hollywood has shat on all of the other sci-fi franchises. This is the only one that currently isn't a flaming dumpster fire, although it wouldn't need much of a push to go in that direction. It was pretty progressive to begin with.

 

[tehpope]

And does anyone even really care about these films anymore?

I'm not interested in the film itself. More so how it'll do since it has a lot riding on it.

I wonder if Jim was forced to shove SJW bs into it or if he had enough sway to tell disney to fuck off and "take it or leave it".

 

[ZehnBoat]

I wonder if Jim was forced to shove SJW bs into it

i can fucking see it
main character is a black man
sides with aliens because "AS A BLACK MAN I KNOW THE FEELINGS OF BEING OPPRESSED EVEN THOUGHT I LIVE ON AN EARTH WHERE IM NOT OPPRESSED BUT GENERATIONAL TRAUMA AND SHIT" and the aliens start singing about fucking africa or something

 

[MCLOS Horthy]

I just want to see space marines in powered exoskeletons massacre natives with 30mm autocannons

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I’m stealing this joke from a podcast, but in image format.

 

[Cantercoin]

after more than a decade the movie is finally coming out this december (maybe)

 

[Gar For Archer]

Hollywood has shat on all of the other sci-fi franchises. This is the only one that currently isn't a flaming dumpster fire, although it wouldn't need much of a push to go in that direction. It was pretty progressive to begin with.

It’s not a flaming dumpster fire because it never got the chance to become one. Until now, that is.

 

[Polyboros2]

It’s not a flaming dumpster fire because it never got the chance to become one. Until now, that is.

Does anyone care about Avatar enough to get mad if these movies are bad?

They were pretty, but the story is simple and recycled. The amusement park attraction is probably the most beloved part of this one movie "franchise".

 

[Raging Capybara]

10 years later and it still looks fake as fuck.

Also, the CGI looks substantially worse. I think Disney cut the budget of this film in half.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Does anyone care about Avatar enough to get mad if these movies are bad?

……nope.

Again, like, the time to capitalize on the first movie’s momentum has long past. Avatar isn’t exactly remembered as a much-beloved classic nowadays, but as a way-overhyped tech demo for 3DCG.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

Is this going to be about a water tree this time or like... whales?

Why did they show a pregernant blue cat person? I didn't need to see that.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Honestly, at the risk of coming of like an idiot, I'm actually excited to see this movie. Even though the first film wasn't exactly amazing aside from the visuals (it is pretty much another sort of story we've seen countless times in other movies), I enjoyed it fine as a popcorn flick. Plus, the visuals only really met their full potential when viewing it on a huge screen, so I'm reserving my judgement on the visuals (even though I actually think they don't look all that bad currently).

Plus, Cameron is best known for creating really amazing sequels (Aliens and Terminator 2), so hopefully, this one, while not being a classic like those two, will at least improve on what was already there.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

I haven't thought of Avatar in over 10 years. The only thing I remember about it is my friends mom dragging me to it when she found out I hadn't seen it and getting super butthurt when we walked out and I thought it was "just okay" and said I was kind of rooting for the bad guy because the film was so preachy.

 

[Narcotics]

I unironically hope the humans get some sort of win this time, it would be retarded if they applied the same "god come help us pls" thing they did in the first one.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Eh, I still found it entertaining enough. Though I agree that the bad guy was one of the highlights, so it's no wonder they brought him back.

The long wait for this film to come out really did not do it any favors huh? Again, I'll just hope that this is Cameron doing for this film something similar to what he did for the sequels to Terminator and Alien, even if not to those levels of quality (cause frankly, almost nothing can match those two classics).

 

[Lensherr]

Honestly, at the risk of coming of like an idiot, I'm actually excited to see this movie. Even though the first film wasn't exactly amazing aside from the visuals (it is pretty much another sort of story we've seen countless times in other movies), I enjoyed it fine as a popcorn flick. Plus, the visuals only really met their full potential when viewing it on a huge screen, so I'm reserving my judgement on the visuals (even though I actually think they don't look all that bad currently).

Plus, Cameron is best known for creating really amazing sequels (Aliens and Terminator 2), so hopefully, this one, while not being a classic like those two, will at least improve on what was already there.

I'm in the same boat honestly. For me, it's because we've been so starved of big-budget auteur blockbusters, that another movie from the king of that particular type of movie seems like a breath of fresh air, even if it ends up sucking. Seems like a good film to see stoned on the biggest screen possible.

Hollywood has shat on all of the other sci-fi franchises. This is the only one that currently isn't a flaming dumpster fire, although it wouldn't need much of a push to go in that direction. It was pretty progressive to begin with.

I'd say Planet Of The Apes and Dune are also both doing alright.

EDIT: Blade Runner too.

 

[El Goblina]

Honestly, at the risk of coming of like an idiot, I'm actually excited to see this movie. Even though the first film wasn't exactly amazing aside from the visuals (it is pretty much another sort of story we've seen countless times in other movies), I enjoyed it fine as a popcorn flick. Plus, the visuals only really met their full potential when viewing it on a huge screen, so I'm reserving my judgement on the visuals (even though I actually think they don't look all that bad currently).

Plus, Cameron is best known for creating really amazing sequels (Aliens and Terminator 2), so hopefully, this one, while not being a classic like those two, will at least improve on what was already there.

This is roughly my take, too. I was fortunate enough to live in Toronto when the first one came out, and I saw it twice. Both times, I did almost exactly the same thing: Go to Vapor Central on Yonge, vaporize a gram of good cannabis, then stumble to the IMAX for the visuals. I'm nowhere near the pothead now that I was then, but I expect the next one's going to be roughly comparable.

 

[Weeb_Killer]

I've been watching the terminator films a lot recently (of which there are only two BTW), along with their counterpart making of's and the practical effects still hold up, especially in the sequel. They use so many techniques, each involving their own distinct craft, and the final scene in T2 is like a grand celebration of analog movie magic. Within a 5 minute time-frame you get see the use of stop-motion, rear screen projection, huge explosions, advanced prosthetics and make up, miniatures, image overlays, puppetry, CGI, and last but not least, the mind-bending shit that stunt pilot was doing in the helicopter, flying up and under fly-overs at high-speed like a complete maniac. It's fucking wonderful spectacle to behold and the array of disciplines really blend in and merge to the point of complete immersion. If that film was made today it'd allllll be in CGI, and it'd be a more generic, bland and lesser film overall as a consequence.

That's the problem with the CGI slosh you see whizzing around on the screen now. You mind knows when it's being played, and the CGI, even after all this time, is still detectable. Unless used correct and not overdone (see any Marvel film for reference), it takes me right out of the film. I know none of what I'm seeing is real, even basic structures or background imagery, and all I'm looking at is a roided up bloke in spandex play-acting with a toy hammer in front of a green screen.

Take a look at the final scene of the original Terminator, where it's just an janky exo-skelton chasing Sarah and Kyle. The fact that it's low-budget stop motion adds to the tension and sheer terror (which is what all good sci-fi should do. Provoke a sense of awe as well as terror simultaneously). If it was done in CGI nowadays they'd be making it do cartwheels and backflips and all sorts of stupid, unnecessary shit.

The best CGI is subtle background enhancement, like the crowd-scenes in Gladiator. That's when it's utilised best because you don't notice it. As much as a genius I think James Cameron is, I think his over-reliance on CGI will cost him, making these films just seem like another generic, run-of-the-mill movie.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

It’s not a flaming dumpster fire because it never got the chance to become one. Until now, that is.

I mean could it really be a flaming dumpster fire if the first film wasn't good

cause outside of the special effects and being a glorified tech demo, Avatar was the most generic and bland environmentalism storytelling that was very pretentious. The only cool part is the Colonel but he's carried more by his actor.