James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

I'm more interested in whether or not they decided to reverse course on a decision made for the first film; there was much time and effort put into making a truly alien sounding musical score/instruments for greater contrast of human versus Pandora musical themes. They succeeded, perhaps a little too well, so the score became mostly generic fantasy epic instead. I'm just curious to see if they decided to stay the course or be a little bit braver this time around, though I know my parents are going to be overjoyed to learn that this movie is coming soon.
 
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Why did they show a pregernant blue cat person? I didn't need to see that.
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To get you thinking about those frames where her primitive bead-bra doesn't cover her pregnant milk-filled veiny blue titties. I'm totally coombrained about this news. Can't wait for some "actress" like Alexandria Daddario play a 7-foot blue alien mommy goddess. Acting? Plot? Character development? Who cares give me spectacle and blue tits. MILKY MILKY YOU STUPID NA'VI UNTIL I GET IT I WON'T BE HAPPY.

In all seriousness I and half the world only watched the first one to see how "top dollar CGI spectacle" would look on my TV but boy oh boy is that played out now. I hope for a big flop but know it will smash records because the public is starved for something different.
 
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Honestly, removed from all the hype and the like, while I don't think the first Avatar is a masterpiece, it is at the very least entertaining and is clearly a work made by someone extremely passionate about his craft, which puts it above being bad, even if the end result is pretty much average.

It'll be interesting to see where he does for this film, and if he took any of the criticism to heart. Hopefully, it will at the very least still be enjoyable as a popcorn flick.
 
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I'm torn, I actually liked the first one, so I want to see more giant blue cat people, but at the same time I want it to flop just to witness the epic seething coming from James Cameron since he's supposedly filmed all the sequels back to back, so will he show them all regardless or lock them away forever in some vault? In the hypothetical case that it flops of course
 
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I’ll only see if it they bomb the blue injuns to hell with nukes and use biological weapons to turn Pandora into a dead world. That would make the film actually watchable.
 
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I'm more interested in whether or not they decided to reverse course on a decision made for the first film; there was much time and effort put into making a truly alien sounding musical score/instruments for greater contrast of human versus Pandora musical themes. They succeeded, perhaps a little too well, so the score became mostly generic fantasy epic instead. I'm just curious to see if they decided to stay the course or be a little bit braver this time around, though I know my parents are going to be overjoyed to learn that this movie is coming soon.
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Kinda sucks that Simon Franglen’s big break happened because James Hornet’s plane crashed
 
Part of the problem with the Na'vi is well...they are too pure. They are the noble savage trope in space, but even the "savage" part is downplayed to pretty much nothing. They are totally benevolent-at least within the confines of their own world (wasn't they're one that was jealous or something? maybe not).

Point is, purge the xenos meming aside-the Na'vi aren't a fully fleshed out fictional species or culture-they are a soap box for James Cameron to make a political statement about how harming the environment is bad, corporations and capitalism are evil, and humanity/western society have materialistic hence short-sighted values leading to their demise/being booted from Pandora.

Fine...he believes that and those aren't uncommon beliefs. The issue is he makes a spectacle movie to sermonize on a message everyone has heard of, it's pointless.
 
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Oh so the blue cat people get reincarnated when they die, presumeably via the Glowing Tentacle Tree.
 
The clear environmental message of these film is a bit too on the nose of me but whatever but I really can't stand how the message is betrayed by the story. The problem for me is that the Navi live in a environment without any real worry because the stupid planet supercomputer makes sure that the biosphere remains in balance. Humans don't have something so convent but it's even worse than that. We developed civilization as a way to survive in a harsh world where death is around every corner, overconsumption is just an unintended consequence of successes.

You can contrast the Navi with Humanity but presenting the Navi's way of life as superior is completely retarded unless Cameron thinks we should go back to living like savages. Someone should remind him that we don't a planet god or USB hair if he thinks that's a good idea. What Avatar needed was more balanced, not everything about our way of life is bad. Sure, we may have driven the mammoth to extinction and are addicted to oil but those infant mortality rates are looking pretty good, people don't die because of a cut and we can feed millions of people.

I read some spoilers for the franchise that may or may not be true. The Navi aren't savages, they are actually super advanced and the whole planet is their creation. They've just been larping as stone age hunter gatherers. Fantastic, the message now is that science can solve all your problems but science doesn't exist in a vacuum. Civilization and infrastructure are vital to progresses and the film straight up tell us how important the mining is the the future of Humanity.
 
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