James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

[Michael Wade]

If it turns out that Our Guy was actually a Navi living in a human Avatar on earth, that’ll make my sides roll because that would imply that there are more Navi out there that are far more advance than the ones we’ve seen so far.

It would also feed into the conspiracy theory of the Navi not even being native to Pandora in the first place

I like that idea, but I think it's even dumber. I remember reading something about how the world tree thing they hook up to their brains brought him back to life as a blue person.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

James Cameron Says 'Avatar 2' Will Make the Haters ‘Shut the F*** Up’

The 'Way of Water' director is sick and tired of jokes about his multi-million dollar franchise having no cultural impact.

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James Cameron Says Avatar 2 Will Make Haters ‘Shut the F*** Up’

archived 2 Dec 2022 02:32:36 UTC

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James Cameron has revealed that his long-awaited “Avatar” sequel is rooted in his personal issues.

“I thought, ‘I’m going to work out a lot of my stuff, artistically, that I’ve gone through as a parent of five kids,’ ” Cameron, 68, told the Hollywood Reporter. “The overarching idea is, the family is the fortress. It’s our greatest weakness and our greatest strength. I thought, ‘I can write the hell out of this. I know what it is to be the a–hole dad.’ ”

Cameron’s wife, Suzy Amis Cameron, 60, is his fifth. The pair have three teen daughters, and they adopted a fourth in 2020 after she became tight with their girls and her parents were “increasingly unable to care” for her, court documents stated. Cameron also has a 29-year-old daughter with his ex-wife Linda Hamilton.

The “Titanic” and “Terminator” director hasn’t released a film since 2009, when the first “Avatar” came out. That film became the highest-grossing movie of all time, earning $2.92 billion worldwide, and it raked in nine Oscar nominations. The sequel cost more than $350 million to make.

James Cameron on making ‘Titanic’ and ‘Avatar’: I was ‘a wild, testosterone-poisoned young man’

The director opened up about his long career and hit movies.

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James Cameron opens up about clashes over 'Titanic' and 'Avatar'

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James Cameron's long-awaited return to Pandora, Avatar: The Way of Water, comes out in just two weeks, and the director is using the press tour for the movie to address the claims made by some critics and movie fans that his 2009 smash left no lasting mark on the cultural landscape.
"The trolls will have it that nobody gives a shit and they can’t remember the characters' names or one damn thing that happened in the movie," he said in an interview with Empire. "Then they see the movie again and go, 'Oh, okay, excuse me, let me just shut the fuck up right now.' So I’m not worried about that."
Cameron spoke more diplomatically—and went a little deeper—on the Avatar haters in his recent cover story with The Hollywood Reporter, stating that despite the 13-year lead time on The Way of Water, the Avatar franchise is still very much in its infancy with multiple films on the way, and can't be fairly compared to other huge series like the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
"There’s skepticism in the marketplace around, 'Oh, did it ever make any real cultural impact?'" he said. "Can anybody even remember the characters’ names?'... When you have extraordinary success, you come back within the next three years. That’s just how the industry works. You come back to the well, and you build that cultural impact over time. Marvel had maybe 26 movies to build out a universe, with the characters cross-pollinating. So it’s an irrelevant argument. We’ll see what happens after this film."
Reflecting back on his career, which includes highly publicized clashes with studio execs, Cameron said, “A lot of things I did earlier, I wouldn’t do — career-wise and just risks that you take as a wild, testosterone-poisoned young man. I always think of [testosterone] as a toxin that you have to slowly work out of your system.”

The first “Avatar” movie followed Jake Sully (Sam Worthington), a paralyzed former Marine who falls in love with a Na’vi woman, Neytiri (Zoe Saldana), in her lush world of Pandora, which humans are colonizing. The sequel follows Jake and Neytiri, now a family, as they fight to keep each other safe when an old threat returns.
One of their teen kids, Kiri, is played by Sigourney Weaver, 73, even though her scientist character, Grace, died in the first movie. Kate Winslet has also joined the cast.

“The idea for Kiri came from, ‘Well, is Grace really dead?’” Cameron explained. “I thought, ‘Hang on, there’s this avatar. What could I do with the idea of bringing Sigourney back, playing a kid?’ It was just a fun idea. I couldn’t get it out of my head.”

Cameron has already shot a third “Avatar” film, expected in 2024, and has planned two more, which together will be total more than $1 billion on production costs.

Since it’s been so long since the first movie came out, Cameron said he understands if audiences are hesitant.

“There’s skepticism in the marketplace around, ‘Oh, did it ever make any real cultural impact?’ ” he said. “‘Can anybody even remember the characters’ names?’ … When you have extraordinary success, you come back within the next three years. That’s just how the industry works.”
The “Avatar” movies also have a strong environmentalist bent, since the villains in the first film were plundering Pandora’s natural resources.

“You can’t hit environmental messaging over the head,” Cameron said. “People are angsty enough. We’ll be injecting this film into a marketplace in a different time. And maybe things that were over the horizon in 2009 are upon us now. Maybe it’s not entertainment anymore.”

James by not keeping his mouth shut has killed any enthusiasm I had for Avatar 2.

 

[TVB]

We all make mistakes in the heat of passion, Jimbo Cameron.

 

[Catgirls are Love]

Well...shit. There goes any possibility of it being a decent movie. Here's hoping they didn't fuck up the soundtrack too.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

As we all know, the principle sign of not being mad is to give profanity-laced interviews with major publications about how Not Mad you are.

Also, I think the Fast & Furious franchise has ruined the idea of being "about family" for at least the next decade.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

seriously I enjoyed paying money to see Avatar at a movie theater a couple of times but yeah nah fuck you, asshole, go amazingly discover that Battle Angel wasn't just the OVAs after somebody spoonfeeds you after you've been claiming to give a shit for a decade, dumbfuck

 

[Quijibo69]

Seeing this movie in theaters for Christmas because two normies want to see it. This is going to bomb big or be the top movie of all time. No in-between.

 

[TheHarbinger]

James Cameron literally slept with actresses on every film he ever did. Even marrying at least two of them. Linda Hamtilon knew so much damaging information about Cameron that he gave her $50million to be silent after the divorce. His concept of family should be hilarious if he truly puts it into the Avatar films. Will the main character bang every woman in sight then have some messy public divorces?

 

[Ita Mori]

I'm missing a Battle Angel sequel (not amazing but still not bad either as far as adaptions go) for this indigenous smurf shit?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I hated the first one. - Boring, preachy, and to top it off, Sam Worthlesston.
So, four films I look forward to never watching.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It's classic passion project creator being assmad when he realizes no one gives a shit, only enhanced by the project not failing miserably and the creator trying to delude itself into thinking it was popular for other reasons besides the tech team and degenerates.

Also I wish the MCU never existed, it really is a blight on popular culture.

 

[TVB]

James Cameron literally slept with actresses on every film he ever did. Even marrying at least two of them. Linda Hamtilon knew so much damaging information about Cameron that he gave her $50million to be silent after the divorce. His concept of family should be hilarious if he truly puts it into the Avatar films. Will the main character bang every woman in sight then have some messy public divorces?

And yet, he hasn't been #MeToo'd by the public consciousness.

 

[BrunoMattei]

@Rome's rightful successor Cannot quote because reasons but yeah, Cameron has always been a little "raw" in interviews and commentaries. He likes to tell it how it is. Not unless he's promoting another Terminator movie for Arnie's sake.

"Reflecting back on his career, which includes highly publicized clashes with studio execs, Cameron said, “A lot of things I did earlier, I wouldn’t do — career-wise and just risks that you take as a wild, testosterone-poisoned young man. I always think of [testosterone] as a toxin that you have to slowly work out of your system.”

That is a weird ass statement. I think it's just stress and he knows there's a very good chance it will bomb and it will be the first career bomb since The Abyss for him. IMHO, The Abyss is just okay. It's overlong and extremely preachy at the end.

“You can’t hit environmental messaging over the head,” Cameron said. “People are angsty enough. We’ll be injecting this film into a marketplace in a different time. And maybe things that were over the horizon in 2009 are upon us now. Maybe it’s not entertainment anymore.”

I wonder if this got greenlit for 12 sequels or whatever because of the environmental message? Were they made just to get a better ESG score?

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

"Reflecting back on his career, which includes highly publicized clashes with studio execs, Cameron said, “A lot of things I did earlier, I wouldn’t do — career-wise and just risks that you take as a wild, testosterone-poisoned young man. I always think of [testosterone] as a toxin that you have to slowly work out of your system.”

That is a weird ass statement. I think it's just stress and he knows there's a very good chance it will bomb and it will be the first career bomb since The Abyss for him. IMHO, The Abyss is just okay. It's overlong and extremely preachy at the end.

That sounds more like a self own that has a ton of unfortunate implications, primarily that female directors would just do what execs tell them without argument and that's somehow a good thing.

I hope it flops, yest another pro environmental film that merely compiling its cgi wasted more energy than what a small town expands in a year, and starring the director's fantasy waifu and daughter.

 

[TVB]

@Rome's rightful successor Cannot quote because reasons but yeah, Cameron has always been a little "raw" in interviews and commentaries. He likes to tell it how it is. Not unless he's promoting another Terminator movie for Arnie's sake.

"Reflecting back on his career, which includes highly publicized clashes with studio execs, Cameron said, “A lot of things I did earlier, I wouldn’t do — career-wise and just risks that you take as a wild, testosterone-poisoned young man. I always think of [testosterone] as a toxin that you have to slowly work out of your system.”

That is a weird ass statement. I think it's just stress and he knows there's a very good chance it will bomb and it will be the first career bomb since The Abyss for him. IMHO, The Abyss is just okay. It's overlong and extremely preachy at the end.

“You can’t hit environmental messaging over the head,” Cameron said. “People are angsty enough. We’ll be injecting this film into a marketplace in a different time. And maybe things that were over the horizon in 2009 are upon us now. Maybe it’s not entertainment anymore.”

I wonder if this got greenlit for 12 sequels or whatever because of the environmental message? Were they made just to get a better ESG score?

Not defending James here, but it seems pretty ironic for Fox to say otherwise considering the company also released more environmental friendly movies as well. Especially animated properties like Ice Age or (to a lesser extent) Ferngully. What's so different about Avatar in terms of its environmental message?

 

[tehpope]

Well...shit. There goes any possibility of it being a decent movie. Here's hoping they didn't fuck up the soundtrack too.

Probably. James Horner died in a personal aircraft crash years ago.

 

[TheHarbinger]

And yet, he hasn't been #MeToo'd by the public consciousness.

Yeah because he never raped anyone you absolute moron. He just had a ton of affairs and got involved with his costars or leads or whatever. Huge difference between that and some kike like Harvey Weinstein gatekeeping entire careers by making women have sex with him. Or Ian McKellan and Bryan Singer raping a bunch of boys.

Cameron would cast women normally then work around them for hours to the point where they would get a connection going then get intimate. He had an affair with Suzy Amis because they became close working on Titanic. Not because he gave her a part in exchange for sleeping with her. The point is that Cameron was willing to break up his families and marriages repeatedly over the next hot woman who gave him the time of day. Not that Cameron is some Roman Polanski wannabe.

#MeToo is not about stars having affairs and consensual relationships that turn into marriages.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Yeah because he never raped anyone you absolute moron. He just had a ton of affairs and got involved with his costars or leads or whatever. Huge difference between that and some kike like Harvey Weinstein gatekeeping entire careers by making women have sex with him. Or Ian McKellan and Bryan Singer raping a bunch of boys.

Cameron would cast women normally then work around them for hours to the point where they would get a connection going then get intimate. He had an affair with Suzy Amis because they became close working on Titanic. Not because he gave her a part in exchange for sleeping with her. The point is that Cameron was willing to break up his families and marriages repeatedly over the next hot woman who gave him the time of day. Not that Cameron is some Roman Polanski wannabe.

#MeToo is not about stars having affairs and consensual relationships that turn into marriages.

I refuse to believe there is a single famous person in Hollywood that is not a sexual creep, and I don't mean in the Harvey Weinstein casting couch whores as actresses, but legit criminals. Plus you need to be incredibly naive to think it's just as happenstance that higher ups and actresses have affairs that aren't just another case of them whoring themself to advance further.

MeToo wasn't about justice, it was to astroturf a movement that will make it easy to kill political rivals to dems, and they only needed to sacrifice one of their own to start it, but Hollywood will never sacrifice a big money maker for it, unless he starts following the wrong politics.

 

[Kiwisee]

When it comes to Avatar, I absolutely loathe the story of the movie but I like all the deep lore surrounding the movie via the books and comics.

Apparently in the book “Guidebook to Pandora”), back on Earth there’s a schizo-terrorist group of environmentalists that bombed a subway who described themselves as being Pandorans, despite clearly being human.

The idea of there being Trans-Navis in the first place is really funny to me for some reason. It’d be amusing if they show up in either the sequel or the third movie

Edit: I think it came from this book, but I could be misremembering. I haven’t indulged in any expanded Avatar universe stuff for a long time, so bear with me.

That said, Jake Sully will never be a real Na’Vi

https://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Confidential-Biological-History-Camerons/dp/0061896756

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

The idea of there being Trans-Navis is just really funny to me for some reason.

Please tell me they paint themselves blue while committing acts of terror.