James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

[Uranus Pink]

Since it is a Disney film it is probably done to get the PG13.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Last I recall hearing you can gun all you want and stay pg13, it's red blood that hits R-town quick

 

[The Nothingness]

Not only he has metamorphosed into a limp-wristed-faggot, he has also become a full fledged anti-humanist.

Check out this quote:

“If I were to do another Terminator film and maybe try to launch that franchise again, which is in discussion, but nothing has been decided, I would make it much more about the AI side of it than bad robots gone crazy,”

Sauce

That's right, if given the chance to redo Terminator, he'll make Skynet the sympathetic one.

FUCK this guy.

My God, MovieBob may get his Terminator reboot where the villain is mayonnaise ghoul who wants to stop the Superior Future (TM).

 

[Polarity]

I watched Avatar for the second time after seeing it shortly after release. I thought it still held up. Cameron can take basic scripts and make them a hell of a lot of fun to sit through.

Judging by this thread I think liking avatar makes me some sort of simpleton furry ingesting whatever the fuck "goyslop" is, but I don't care, I think it's a fun film. A simple tale of guy winning a native girl over without any of the constant woke bullshit I have to sit through in every film these days or fucking superheroes. No trans side-characters, not much forced diversity or anything that really felt out of place, just a good action film where the guy goes through the hero's journey.

With that being said, is the second one equally as entertaining? I'm not looking for a masterpiece, just some nice escapism.

 

[White Devil]

I watched Avatar for the second time after seeing it shortly after release. I thought it still held up. Cameron can take basic scripts and make them a hell of a lot of fun to sit through.

Judging by this thread I think liking avatar makes me some sort of simpleton furry ingesting whatever the fuck "goyslop" is, but I don't care, I think it's a fun film. A simple tale of guy winning a native girl over without any of the constant woke bullshit I have to sit through in every film these days or fucking superheroes. No trans side-characters, not much forced diversity or anything that really felt out of place, just a good action film where the guy goes through the hero's journey.

With that being said, is the second one equally as entertaining? I'm not looking for a masterpiece, just some nice escapism.

Half the cast are trans though. Trans furries.

 

[realitysurf]

Not enough alien genocide. Needs more xenophobia.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I watched Avatar for the second time after seeing it shortly after release. I thought it still held up. Cameron can take basic scripts and make them a hell of a lot of fun to sit through.

Judging by this thread I think liking avatar makes me some sort of simpleton furry ingesting whatever the fuck "goyslop" is, but I don't care, I think it's a fun film. A simple tale of guy winning a native girl over without any of the constant woke bullshit I have to sit through in every film these days or fucking superheroes. No trans side-characters, not much forced diversity or anything that really felt out of place, just a good action film where the guy goes through the hero's journey.

With that being said, is the second one equally as entertaining? I'm not looking for a masterpiece, just some nice escapism.

I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but I suspect the divide between Avatar enjoyers and those who think it sucks (like me) hinges on whether the viewer is able to suspend their disbelief.

Not for a single moment could I pretend these Amazonian blue people were actual living things. It just felt like I was watching a bunch of overproduced BS. I would have liked Avatar better if it were a cartoon.

 

[Airbrushed Van Art]

I watched Avatar for the second time after seeing it shortly after release. I thought it still held up. Cameron can take basic scripts and make them a hell of a lot of fun to sit through.

Judging by this thread I think liking avatar makes me some sort of simpleton furry ingesting whatever the fuck "goyslop" is, but I don't care, I think it's a fun film. A simple tale of guy winning a native girl over without any of the constant woke bullshit I have to sit through in every film these days or fucking superheroes. No trans side-characters, not much forced diversity or anything that really felt out of place, just a good action film where the guy goes through the hero's journey.

With that being said, is the second one equally as entertaining? I'm not looking for a masterpiece, just some nice escapism.

As someone who is sick and tired of capeshit and star wars, and who avoids modern fantasy-sci-fi tv shows like the plague, I enjoyed avatar 2. I liked the first one as well. Old fashioned hero’s journey for sure. You kind of have to suspend your cynicism though.

 

[LightDragonman1]

Having now seen Avatar 2, I too am on the side of people who overall liked it. Though it did go on a bit longer than needed, I admit.

Sure, it's not exactly a masterpiece, and it is flawed, I agree. But hey, as I was just wanting a simple fun blockbuster not based on an overplayed cinematic universe, I came out satisfied.

 

[LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2]

As someone who is sick and tired of capeshit and star wars, and who avoids modern fantasy-sci-fi tv shows like the plague, I enjoyed avatar 2. I liked the first one as well. Old fashioned hero’s journey for sure. You kind of have to suspend your cynicism though.

I think that is the problem here. It is a reverse situation of the first film: instead of it receiving a ton of hype going into it, people instead went into it wanting to hate it so they could make fun of it. Especially MCU and Star Wars fanboys because they can't understand that a property can actually be a passion project for somebody.

It is why I am trying to be fair with the second film. It is certainly isn't the pinnacle of cinema but it wasn't anywhere close to being the piece of shit people thought it was going to be. Depending on how the story concludes with the third film and the answers we get we can reevaluate it more.

 

[Stoneheart]

I think that is the problem here. It is a reverse situation of the first film: instead of it receiving a ton of hype going into it, people instead went into it wanting to hate it so they could make fun of it. Especially MCU and Star Wars fanboys because they can't understand that a property can actually be a passion project for somebody.

I makes me so happy that nigger kitty 2 struggled to make 800m when it had a break evenpoint around 1b with all the media push in the world while Catpeople under water breezes to their breakeven point of a giant 1.4b over christmas. they have to be so fucking mad right now...

 

[Oilspill Battery]

According to Wikipedia the first film also had an accompanying videogame that nobody really cared about until after the film came out (the game beat the film to release by a couple weeks). Online services for the game were shut down in a little more than four and a half years later.

I played the game, it was ages ago and I may have nostalgia glasses but I liked it and I thought it was pretty good, I think it'd work great with a modern remake.

It was a lot different from the movie plotwise and let you side with the humans or navi, playing something like a territorial planetside 2 esque conquest game of the two sides fighting where you unlock weapons and abilities depending on who ou sided with and such, I'm also pretty sure lategame humans could summon actual carpet bombings. I've only finished it on the navi side though and it had a low budget. If it was remade by a AAA studio today I think it would really work.

Doubt it cause Cameron is a virtue signaling hypocrite. Since despite making an anti-whaling movie he promotes it at a captive dolphin show, and despite being pro-native American, he makes extremely condescending statements to native Americans.

Cameron is just a holier than thou prick

What has he said to native americans?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

What has he said to native americans?

He basically said that if native Americans saw the future they would’ve fought back hard and not have been genocided which is why he made Avatar. This is despite the fact that is what they already did and why natives haven’t been completely killed off.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

I recently watched Avatar 2 and I think it is a good thing that Disney put a time limit for these movies. Avatar 2, initial thoughts on it: "There are simply too many notes." While simultaneously having no real notes until the last half. A lot of the shots felt like an effects reel, a real nice one, the water effects tickle my nerdy side. It could have easily lost an entire hour if there wasn't so much "whimsy" and instead focused on characters and writing; I can't remember a single character name outside of Scully and I'm only 50% sure I got the main character's name correct and 50% sure I may have transposed X-files main characters. In addition, to understand the initial burst of outrage or why a Navajo would take issue of this movie. The island aliens were clearly representing Polynesia; hell they even have humpback whales that migrate just like the whale things in the movie.

 

[Idiotron]

Everyone wrote off Avatar 2 as a flop because it apparently needs $2 billion to break even.
We're past the 3rd weekend of it's release, it's already at $1.4 billion and the 3rd weekend had better box office numbers than the 2nd one.
Based on the trajectory, it looks like it will reach $2 billion by next month.
Cameron just can't lose, can he?

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

He basically said that if native Americans saw the future they would’ve fought back hard and not have been genocided which is why he made Avatar. This is despite the fact that is what they already did and why natives haven’t been completely killed off.

And that the thing that did the most damage to the natives was completely beyond the control of everyone involved, and that they weren't a unified faction so an outsider could exploit their internecine conflicts. Typically for Hollywood, "things would have been completely different if they had been completely different " is what passes for insight.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

He basically said that if native Americans saw the future they would’ve fought back hard and not have been genocided which is why he made Avatar. This is despite the fact that is what they already did and why natives haven’t been completely killed off.

Didn't a lot of natives helped the colonials to genocide the Aztecs who were far worse? Anyways got to love the people crying for Native American erasure while actively erasing it by stealing its art, replacing it's history with noble savage tropes and arguing they were all gay tranny activists.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Didn't a lot of natives helped the colonials to genocide the Aztecs who were far worse? Anyways got to love the people crying for Native American erasure while actively erasing it by stealing its art, replacing it's history with noble savage tropes and arguing they were all gay tranny activists.

You don't even have to involve the Europeans. There was plenty of infighting and civil wars that led to genocides among the native empires. The Inca for example constantly warred and conqured their natives neighbors and near the end of the empire, there was a sort of civil war between the lord who ruled in the north and his brother king who ruled the whole empire in Quito.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Didn't a lot of natives helped the colonials to genocide the Aztecs who were far worse? Anyways got to love the people crying for Native American erasure while actively erasing it by stealing its art, replacing it's history with noble savage tropes and arguing they were all gay tranny activists.

Yep and James Cameron virtue signals about native americans by making these shitty avatar films to also live out his savior fantasies.

Also he virtue signals so much that he barely has natives involved in the filmmaking process aside from being cast as extras (not that there's anything wrong with that except it makes Cameron's virtue signaling even more hollow)

 

[Fount of BadSpeak]

He basically said that if native Americans saw the future they would’ve fought back hard and not have been genocided which is why he made Avatar. This is despite the fact that is what they already did and why natives haven’t been completely killed off.

Many Native tribes sided with the whites for their own personal reasons; some saw that the white man taking over was inevitable, some wanted a leg up on hated neighbors (virtually every native joined the Spanish to fight the Aztec because they were evil and universally reviled.), and others had genuinely positive relations with whites and no real cause for conflict. French trappers and settlers in particular had a good relationship with Natives, and you can see that legacy and influence in Lousianna to this day. They weren't some noble savage gestalt collective, they spent tens of thousands of years raping and slaughtering each other for kicks before white men showed up, and haven't stopped since. Hell, the U.S. plains injuns were literally just apocalyptic raiders who slaughtered any men they saw and took the women for rape slaves because the established tribal order had collapsed due to disease. Or when we put the Hopi and Navajo on the same reservation, the Navajo wasted zero time trying to genocide the Hopi because even getting their shit pushed in by the white man wasn't enough for them to unite with other tribes.

Cameron is just another "progressive" spreading myths about an oppression that never was to demonize whites more.