James Cameron's Avatar to get four sequels - The message will still be the same

The first one was a big deal in China, box office wise--it proved they could make a LOT of money there. It has since been surpassed by one of the Fast and the Furious movies. I know that Avatar is one of those properties that is intended to be international, though. (Same with the Mad Max reboot.)
 
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We'll see how the box office pans out. Avatar made a shitload of money for basically the same reason Titanic did: it hit all the proper marks for normies. But more importantly, it like Titanic released in the winter when no one is putting out big-budget action movies.

But since Star Wars will release every winter from now until the end of time, Cameron is gonna have a lot more competition. I know he doesn't actually give a shit if people like the story but he is concerned with how much money he can make.
 
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Yeah, but Star Wars didn't make Avatar money, because Asia doesn't give a shit about Star Wars.

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Avatard:
Domestic: $760,507,625 27.3%
+ Foreign: $2,027,457,462 72.7%
= Worldwide: $2,787,965,087


Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Domestic: $936,662,225 45.3%
+ Foreign: $1,131,561,399 54.7%
= Worldwide: $2,068,223,624

And, China's market has only grown since 2009. He's also got Chinese state investors, looks like, so odds are there will be Chinese voice actors as the blue cat demon things, so they'll be media bombing the shit out of that market. Basically, a movie no one in the States actually wants is probably going to be the most money-making movie of all time.
 
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Seeing how movies are being specifically made for the Chinese market at this point, and their MO is "shiny pictures and super simple dialogue"... maybe?
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Those films tend to be the only type to make and go under the radar easier!
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We'll see how the box office pans out. Avatar made a shitload of money for basically the same reason Titanic did: it hit all the proper marks for normies. But more importantly, it like Titanic released in the winter when no one is putting out big-budget action movies.

But since Star Wars will release every winter from now until the end of time, Cameron is gonna have a lot more competition. I know he doesn't actually give a shit if people like the story but he is concerned with how much money he can make.
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Popcorn movies galore!
 
So it's going to be the same characters, the same premise, the same world, the same message. How the hell are they going to fill four movies? I mean, say what you like about Star Wars, but that was a franchise that, from the very start, gave us a huge universe to explore. There was no real message beyond "look at this fucking awesome space battle." As a result, the storytelling possibilities are endless.
 
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So it's going to be the same characters, the same premise, the same world, the same message. How the hell are they going to fill four movies? I mean, say what you like about Star Wars, but that was a franchise that, from the very start, gave us a huge universe to explore. There was no real message beyond "look at this fucking awesome space battle." As a result, the storytelling possibilities are endless.
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Avatar has no real message either. Cameran and Co. just framed the narrative with the standard Military vs. Indians plot because audiences gobble that shit up. He threw the slop int the trough because he knew the pigs would eat it.
 
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Given that the Navi planet is large enough, Cameron could theoretically just have the characters go to other Na'vi bands/tribes/whatever and "spread the message" that the humans are coming. Still wouldn't really make much of a good movie, but whatever.
 
I cannot believe I am doing this, but the obvious choices?

Movie 2: Earth Strikes Back. Basically, BlueCatDemonDude now has a zillionty BlueCatDemonBabies with his BlueCatDemonWife, one of which, the oldest, is coming of age, which involves some ritualized catdemons shit totally lifted by Cameron from Mongolian shamans. BlueCatDemonDude is now sage and wise and shaolin-esque neural network skills, and he can pretty much fight with trees obeying his command in 3d. And, after establishing shots, we find out that the humans are BACK! BABY! for the unobtainium. Only more bad ass. With bigger, scarier bombs for the 3d assplosions. With a more sociopathic, hateable bad guy, who has visions of enslaving the CatDemons! Etc. And... for good measure, the bad guy is someone from BlueCatDemonDude's past. Because of course. And it all comes down to a battle where the son is at risk, the dad sacrifices himself in a way that maybe takes his leg-walking away AGAIN, and the humans are repelled but just barely, and the humans inflict some sort of catastrophic loss to some gay assed magic tree or sacred lake this time.

Movie 3: The Return of the CatDemons. BlueCatDemonSon is the official lead--he's the hybrid that has been prophesied, sort of like Hera in Battlestar Galactica. Romantic ladyfriend subplot for the son is heavy in this one. BlueCatDemonSon reaches his true potential, using Dad's finely honed stolen Yoda routine (he's now the Three Eyed Raven, I guess.) We find out that news of the CatDemon situation has reached earth, and there are rebel humans who want to join the cat demons, bailing on humanity, with it's greed and pollution. This one can be "about" immigration and assimilation, which is "relevant." Defection nature humans vs. evil corporate colonizing humans.

Movie 4: CatDemon Domination through Assimilation. This is the one where the humans, on the whole, all move to CatDemonPlanet and give up their evil polluting ways, choosing instead to commune with the trees and the web of life, the end.
 
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I cannot believe I am doing this, but the obvious choices?

Movie 2: Earth Strikes Back. Basically, BlueCatDemonDude now has a zillionty BlueCatDemonBabies with his BlueCatDemonWife, one of which, the oldest, is coming of age, which involves some ritualized catdemons shit totally lifted by Cameron from Mongolian shamans. BlueCatDemonDude is now sage and wise and shaolin-esque neural network skills, and he can pretty much fight with trees obeying his command in 3d. And, after establishing shots, we find out that the humans are BACK! BABY! for the unobtainium. Only more bad ass. With bigger, scarier bombs for the 3d assplosions. With a more sociopathic, hateable bad guy, who has visions of enslaving the CatDemons! Etc. And... for good measure, the bad guy is someone from BlueCatDemonDude's past. Because of course. And it all comes down to a battle where the son is at risk, the dad sacrifices himself in a way that maybe takes his leg-walking away AGAIN, and the humans are repelled but just barely, and the humans inflict some sort of catastrophic loss to some gay assed magic tree or sacred lake this time.

Movie 3: The Return of the CatDemons. BlueCatDemonSon is the official lead--he's the hybrid that has been prophesied, sort of like Hera in Battlestar Galactica. Romantic ladyfriend subplot for the son is heavy in this one. BlueCatDemonSon reaches his true potential, using Dad's finely honed stolen Yoda routine (he's now the Three Eyed Raven, I guess.) We find out that news of the CatDemon situation has reached earth, and there are rebel humans who want to join the cat demons, bailing on humanity, with it's greed and pollution. This one can be "about" immigration and assimilation, which is "relevant." Defection nature humans vs. evil corporate colonizing humans.

Movie 4: CatDemon Domination through Assimilation. This is the one where the humans, on the whole, all move to CatDemonPlanet and give up their evil polluting ways, choosing instead to commune with the trees and the web of life, the end.
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There's supposed to be a fifth movie, though.
 
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Well, if they keep making money, he can make a dozen. Look at Star Wars.
 
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There were a bunch of people claiming to be Na'Vikin after the movie came out, but I think that only lasted a year.
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I remember that. There was an LJ where people posted their memories of the blue cat people planet. But it fizzled out quickly. There's way too much time between the first movie and whenever the next one actually comes out for anyone to care. 2020? You're going to have fans who were still drinking from sippy cups when the first movie came out. This worked for Sta Wars. But that was an established franchise. This is just one mostly forgotten about movie with the great white savior going native with science magic. Although the SJW salt will be more fun this time around due to the main character being a bluefacing cripple. Ableism plus racism in one neat package.
 
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They started shooting the sequels officially and they have a combined budget of $1 billion. The first one cost $237 million. So basically, each film is budgeted at $250 million.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...3-4-5-production-budget-sequels-a7967641.html
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Whoever signed off on this from the studio is probably going to be found shot in a dark alley some time. This is an insane amount to spend on sequels for a movie that everybody kind of forgot once the gimmick of 3D became ubiquitous.

Either that, or some serious money laundering that would make Max Bialystock blush.
 
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Yeah, but Star Wars didn't make Avatar money, because Asia doesn't give a shit about Star Wars.

Here:

Avatard:
Domestic: $760,507,625 27.3%
+ Foreign: $2,027,457,462 72.7%
= Worldwide: $2,787,965,087


Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Domestic: $936,662,225 45.3%
+ Foreign: $1,131,561,399 54.7%
= Worldwide: $2,068,223,624

And, China's market has only grown since 2009. He's also got Chinese state investors, looks like, so odds are there will be Chinese voice actors as the blue cat demon things, so they'll be media bombing the shit out of that market. Basically, a movie no one in the States actually wants is probably going to be the most money-making movie of all time.
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Hopefully the sequels double-down on appealing to the Chinese market and are an allegory about crushing the rebellious Tibetans and rightful territorial claims to the South China Sea.
 
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