US JD Vance attacks Europe over free speech and migration - Euroids are coping and seething

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BBC | Emily Atkinson

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US Vice-President JD Vance has launched a scalding attack on European democracies, saying the greatest threat facing the continent was not from Russia and China, but "from within".

It had been expected that Vance would use his speech at the Munich Security Conference to address possible talks to end the war in Ukraine.

Instead, he spent the majority accusing European governments - including the UK's - of retreating from their values, and ignoring voter concerns on migration and free speech.

The address was met by silence in the hall, and later denounced by several politicians at the conference. German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said it was "not acceptable".

Vance repeated the Trump administration's line that Europe must "step up in a big way to provide for its own defence".

The Ukraine war was mentioned, with Vance saying he hoped a "reasonable settlement" could be reached, after US President Donald Trump's surprise announcement earlier this week that he and Russia's Vladimir Putin had agreed to begin peace talks.

But Vance's address otherwise focused on culture-war issues and key themes of Trump's campaign for the US presidency - a departure from the usual security and defence discussions at the annual conference.

He alleged European Union "commissars" were suppressing free speech, blamed the continent for mass migration, and accused its leaders of retreating from "some of its most fundamental values".

The EU's foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas, characterised Vance as "trying to pick a fight" with Europe, home to some of the US's closest allies.
Michael McFaul, the former US ambassador to Russia, told Politico Vance's remarks were "insulting" and "just empirically not true".
Vance used his 20-minute speech to single out several European nations, including the UK.

He raised a legal case in which an army veteran who silently prayed outside an abortion clinic was convicted of breaching an 150-metre safe zone around the centre.

The safe zone, introduced in October 2022, bans activity in favour or against abortion services, including protests, harassment and vigils.

But Vance argued that the "basic liberties of religious Britons, in particular" were under threat.

Vance went on to criticise the use of laws enforcing buffer zones, saying that free speech was in retreat and alleging that the Scottish government had warned people against private prayer within their own homes.

In response, the Scottish government said Vance's claim was "incorrect" and the law was "carefully drafted to capture only intentional or reckless behaviour close to a small number of premises providing abortion services".

Nine days before a tense national election in Germany, he touched on a heated debate in the country around mainstream political parties maintaining a so-called "firewall" of non-cooperation with the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

In the decades since democracy was restored in Germany after the defeat of the Nazis, there has been a consensus among its main political parties not to work with far-right parties.

"Democracy rests on the sacred principle that the voice of the people matters," Vance said. "There's no room for firewalls. You either uphold the principle or you don't."

The AfD's candidate for chancellor, Alice Weidel, later shared parts of his speech on X, praising it as "excellent". The two reportedly met afterwards, according to German public broadcaster ZDF.

In his own speech, Pistorius directly addressed Vance, saying: "Democracy was called into question by the US vice-president for the whole of Europe.

"He speaks of the annihilation of democracy," Pistorius continued. "And if I have understood him correctly, he is comparing conditions in parts of Europe with those in authoritarian regimes... that is not acceptable."

Vance also made reference to the presidential election in Romania, which was annulled in December after declassified documents suggested it had been targeted by Russian state interference.

Vance told the conference: "If your democracy can be destroyed with a few $100,000 of digital advertising from a foreign country, then it wasn't very strong to begin with."

Romanian Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu said his country remains "a defender of the democratic values that Europe shares with the USA".

"All RO [Romanian] authorities are committed to organising free and fair elections by empowering citizens and guaranteeing the freedom to vote," he wrote on X.

Vance later met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on the sidelines of the conference, which has otherwise mainly focussed on Russia's full-scale invasion.

Zelensky said during the meeting that more work was needed on planning to end the fighting, while Vance said the pair shared a "fruitful" conversation.

Trump had said US, Russian and Ukrainian officials would meet in Munich, but Moscow has said it is not sending a delegation to the summit.
 
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NATO troops would have moved into Ukraine and Russia would have been completely stymied. Putin would jump up and down and rattle sabres until he went completely apoplectic, but there would have been nothing he could do about it (and, having been stationed in East Germany and witnessed this sort of thing before, probably would have ended up with a severe case of itchy asshole). This would buy time for Ukraine to formally join NATO and put an end to Putin's desire to have them return to SSR status.
No, they weren't eligible pre-invasion because of the dispute over Crimea being occupied.

And they certainly aren't eligible now with even more territory in dispute on top of an ongoing hot war.

Ukraine will never meet the prerequisites to join of having a stable and undisputed border and not being at war at the same time.

NATO is a defensive alliance, it can't be joined as a means to retroactively get reinforcements in an already-shooting situation. Its fire insurance, not the fire department.

It was ignorant and downright evil for our own government officials to have, on multiple occasions? Openly promised them membership. Somehow. They had to have known the rules did not allow it and simply didn't care or just thought "the right side of history" would somehow iron it all it for them.
 
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whats got you rustled, friend?
The fact that people are falling for this shit. Given that everything being stated is obvious, the only thing of note left is who exactly is being allowed to state it in such a manner. Things like this will be used to distract from the fact that 8.8 billion jeets are being imported to replace you for cheap, 14 more gorillion dollars are being sent to israel and the fact that actually no we can't deport all those people despite whatever promises were made. I'll cheer when the US actually builds that wall or truly puts the europoor union into it's place, this is nothing more than a cheap circus for retards.
 
It was a good speech and the European establishment has little to counter apart from the "fake news" and "hate speech" cope. A significant minority of the European electorate sees these issues as well. EU leaders openly talking about mass censorship and canceling election results if there's too much Russian disinformation doesn't help either.

I don't think the United States is perfect, but their track record on both economic and political freedom easily outperforms the old tired continent of Europe. In a way, they are partially responsible. Funding European defence meant that the European leaders and electorate didn't really have to stay rooted in reality and could inflate the nanny state to news heights.

It is crashing down now and the disorientation and hangover for the leadership is quite severe.
 
The fact that people are falling for this shit. Given that everything being stated is obvious, the only thing of note left is who exactly is being allowed to state it in such a manner. Things like this will be used to distract from the fact that 8.8 billion jeets are being imported to replace you for cheap, 14 more gorillion dollars are being sent to israel and the fact that actually no we can't deport all those people despite whatever promises were made. I'll cheer when the US actually builds that wall or truly puts the europoor union into it's place, this is nothing more than a cheap circus for retards.
You have the same grasp on reality as a 6-year-old child crying in the corner because she didn't get a real unicorn for her birthday - that is to say, very little.
 
In kind of a surreal way, NONE of this would have happened if Trump had won in 2020. He had enough neocons, country clubbers and establishment types in the administration to undo or talk him out of the kind of stuff he's doing now. They all turned on him after the loss in 2020, figuring he was done. They burned their bridges to him, not the other way around. In one way, Trump is kind of naive with who he trusts, but after they all outed themselves this way, he turned to people who's support never wavered. Hence, crazy shit like USAid, Elon Musk, DOGE, etc. And a sense that he's still just getting warmed up.
I agree. It gets banded about a lot but the assassination attempt changed Trump. He was a man who was probably too egotistical to believe in his own mortality. After he came face to face with it, I think he has realised that he is getting old and his time draws close, which is why he is acting like he is; he is a man not afraid of death or been taken out.
He will continue to piss off and dismantle the deep state until either them or him are dead. He has nothing to lose and is a very, very dangerous man to be enemy to.

A mass civil unrest spanning multiple countries by 2030 would not surprise me one bit.
 
It was ignorant and downright evil for our own government officials to have, on multiple occasions? Openly promised them membership.
Just standard spook operating procedure. By now every single nation should know what happens when you get in bed with them, and yet here we are. Maybe they think it's like a lottery and that they might be the lucky one to not get thrown under the bus.
 
Kind of seems like they're getting what they're voting for.
Yeah, no way could they rig elections.

I'll delete the rest of the post where I lecture you for letting them trick you and being retarded, because it's so easy to be tricked (apparently) and people are in love with being retarded (apparently). But perhaps a brief moment of consideration - if candy is poisoned, does one blame the poisoners or the poisoned?
 
That's nice. He's still a closeted gay scrote though.
Why do leftoids whine, bitch, cry, and moan about people being "closeted gay" as some kind of gotcha! or insult? I thought faggots were the greatest thing ever?

Call me crazy but I actually don't give a flying fuck if a politician is gay, married to an Indian woman, or whatever as long as they do the job I elected them to do and aren't a pedophile cannibal.
 
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I agree. It gets banded about a lot but the assassination attempt changed Trump. He was a man who was probably too egotistical to believe in his own mortality. After he came face to face with it, I think he has realised that he is getting old and his time draws close, which is why he is acting like he is; he is a man not afraid of death or been taken out.
He will continue to piss off and dismantle the deep state until either them or him are dead. He has nothing to lose and is a very, very dangerous man to be enemy to.

A mass civil unrest spanning multiple countries by 2030 would not surprise me one bit.
Paraphrase Andrew Jackson: "The Bank USAID is trying to kill me, but I will kill it!"
 
The fact that people are falling for this shit. Given that everything being stated is obvious, the only thing of note left is who exactly is being allowed to state it in such a manner. Things like this will be used to distract from the fact that 8.8 billion jeets are being imported to replace you for cheap, 14 more gorillion dollars are being sent to israel and the fact that actually no we can't deport all those people despite whatever promises were made. I'll cheer when the US actually builds that wall or truly puts the europoor union into it's place, this is nothing more than a cheap circus for retards.
Well, I guess it was between the spics or the jeets. Not gonna lie, the executive orders have been really awesome. Whether you agree with all of it or not, politics is a circus in the US. We have two parties that both fuck you in different ways. At least I can now watch the show without feeling the urge to turn it off.
 
i just said there’s basically no discernible difference as someone not living there

are you german or something? jesus

Oh, my bad. I didn't realise how thin-skinned you seem to be to straightforward replies. In the future, I'll be sure to not intrude upon the safe-space bubble in which you apparently reside.
 
Why do leftoids whine, bitch, cry, and moan about people being "closeted gay" as some kind of gotcha! or insult?
I don't call "people" closeted gay scrotes. I'm calling J.D. Vance a closeted gay scrote.
I thought faggots were the greatest thing ever?
Gay scrotes are not the greatest thing ever, given that they suffer from the incurable disease known as being male.
 
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