US JD Vance attacks Europe over free speech and migration - Euroids are coping and seething

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
Updated: 5 hours ago

BBC | Emily Atkinson

Link | Archive

Vance.png

US Vice-President JD Vance has launched a scalding attack on European democracies, saying the greatest threat facing the continent was not from Russia and China, but "from within".

It had been expected that Vance would use his speech at the Munich Security Conference to address possible talks to end the war in Ukraine.

Instead, he spent the majority accusing European governments - including the UK's - of retreating from their values, and ignoring voter concerns on migration and free speech.

The address was met by silence in the hall, and later denounced by several politicians at the conference. German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said it was "not acceptable".

Vance repeated the Trump administration's line that Europe must "step up in a big way to provide for its own defence".

The Ukraine war was mentioned, with Vance saying he hoped a "reasonable settlement" could be reached, after US President Donald Trump's surprise announcement earlier this week that he and Russia's Vladimir Putin had agreed to begin peace talks.

But Vance's address otherwise focused on culture-war issues and key themes of Trump's campaign for the US presidency - a departure from the usual security and defence discussions at the annual conference.

He alleged European Union "commissars" were suppressing free speech, blamed the continent for mass migration, and accused its leaders of retreating from "some of its most fundamental values".

The EU's foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas, characterised Vance as "trying to pick a fight" with Europe, home to some of the US's closest allies.
Michael McFaul, the former US ambassador to Russia, told Politico Vance's remarks were "insulting" and "just empirically not true".
Vance used his 20-minute speech to single out several European nations, including the UK.

He raised a legal case in which an army veteran who silently prayed outside an abortion clinic was convicted of breaching an 150-metre safe zone around the centre.

The safe zone, introduced in October 2022, bans activity in favour or against abortion services, including protests, harassment and vigils.

But Vance argued that the "basic liberties of religious Britons, in particular" were under threat.

Vance went on to criticise the use of laws enforcing buffer zones, saying that free speech was in retreat and alleging that the Scottish government had warned people against private prayer within their own homes.

In response, the Scottish government said Vance's claim was "incorrect" and the law was "carefully drafted to capture only intentional or reckless behaviour close to a small number of premises providing abortion services".

Nine days before a tense national election in Germany, he touched on a heated debate in the country around mainstream political parties maintaining a so-called "firewall" of non-cooperation with the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

In the decades since democracy was restored in Germany after the defeat of the Nazis, there has been a consensus among its main political parties not to work with far-right parties.

"Democracy rests on the sacred principle that the voice of the people matters," Vance said. "There's no room for firewalls. You either uphold the principle or you don't."

The AfD's candidate for chancellor, Alice Weidel, later shared parts of his speech on X, praising it as "excellent". The two reportedly met afterwards, according to German public broadcaster ZDF.

In his own speech, Pistorius directly addressed Vance, saying: "Democracy was called into question by the US vice-president for the whole of Europe.

"He speaks of the annihilation of democracy," Pistorius continued. "And if I have understood him correctly, he is comparing conditions in parts of Europe with those in authoritarian regimes... that is not acceptable."

Vance also made reference to the presidential election in Romania, which was annulled in December after declassified documents suggested it had been targeted by Russian state interference.

Vance told the conference: "If your democracy can be destroyed with a few $100,000 of digital advertising from a foreign country, then it wasn't very strong to begin with."

Romanian Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu said his country remains "a defender of the democratic values that Europe shares with the USA".

"All RO [Romanian] authorities are committed to organising free and fair elections by empowering citizens and guaranteeing the freedom to vote," he wrote on X.

Vance later met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on the sidelines of the conference, which has otherwise mainly focussed on Russia's full-scale invasion.

Zelensky said during the meeting that more work was needed on planning to end the fighting, while Vance said the pair shared a "fruitful" conversation.

Trump had said US, Russian and Ukrainian officials would meet in Munich, but Moscow has said it is not sending a delegation to the summit.
 
Last edited:
Who cares about his wife's ethnicity? She's hot and she looks at him like she's actually proud of him. Is anyone seriously suggesting that this woman:
View attachment 6988445
doesn't bring better DNA to America than this one:
View attachment 6988447

You tell me which you'd rather have looking at you across the breakfast table?
that movie hillbilly elegy made her to out to be super supportive.
 
Western Europe _might_ be able to get its shit together enough to come up with some collective security NATO replacement that will stop it falling into the Russian sphere of influence but there's no way having raised taxes on their citizens even more to pay for it / had to let their welfare states collapse to build an army they'll put that army at risk to stop Russia retaking land its held for most of the last 300 years. The Trump presidency is history on fast forward, 76 years is a good run for a military alliance in historical terms and Vance is just being honest that that couldn't last forever. America wanted to pull troops out of Europe straight after V.E day but the atom bomb meant there was no particular rush and the Soviet Union couldn't be cool and pretend it didn't want to take over eastern Europe long enough for the Americans to leave. NATO's been on borrowed time since the end of the cold war. Europe loves having wars, it'll do the youth good to do national service, be given a purpose and have a camaraderie building experience to further their sense of nation / further emphasise the difference between themselves and recent arrivals. Plus bigger armies will make it easier to do deportations when the time comes. If we get our free speech back along the way I cant really see a downside. Might personally profit from it too, off i go to invest in the German arms industry.
 
Last edited:
There's another interesting article about this.
February 22, 2025

JD Vance Asks: What Has Europe Become?​

By Twilight Patriot

Since I am not a full-time political commentator (I still have to work with my hands during the daytime), I wasn’t able to react to J.D. Vance’s recent remarks in Munich as quickly as I would have liked. Still, what the new vice president said there on February 14 is worth paying attention to. And for someone who usually fills his website with predictions of a gloomy future, it is quite nice to be able to write something upbeat and optimistic for a change.

The Munich Security Conference has been held annually since 1963 and is a place for senior government officials from a variety of (mostly European) countries to discuss their military and foreign policies. Probably the most significant year for the conference was 2007, when Vladimir Putin came and spoke about how Russia was being disrespected, how it would never accept a subordinate role in the unipolar world order that the United States was trying to lead, and how eastward NATO expansion was a serious mistake.
The ability to listen to someone, and think hard about what the world looks like from his point of view — even if that person’s moral vision is very different from yours — is one of the marks of a mature mind. But it’s not something that the America-led bloc came anywhere close to doing. Instead, we got 15 more years of acting as though the world has room for just one hegemon (or one and a half if you count China, toward which these countries are much more accommodating). At the same time, no European countries made a serious attempt to build up their militaries to the point of parity with Russia’s — or even to the point of being able to act independently of the United States.
 
The problem with this is that Europe has been a vassal state/continent of the United States since 1945. The United States was fine with Europe not paying its fair share into NATO because it meant a disarmed Europe. So Europe diverted money that should’ve went into NATO into social spending programs, which again the United States was in favor of because it meant Europe couldn’t kill another 50+ million of each other in yet another World War.
Europe including England were already diverting funding from their militaries and shoveling the funds into their socialist and vote buying social spending programs. Long before WWII had started.
 
Last edited:
Back