Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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I love the idea that Rey using a staff is the same as using a double bladed saber. Did no one notice that the part of the staff Rey tends to grasp while weilding it isn't the center?

I'm pretty sure this just boils down to Lily thinking, "Wow that staff is long, so is a double sided saber, its perfect!".

As someone who loved Starwars for years, I always hated the gray jedi, lightsided sith shit is that it so often just plays like a power fantasy, more so than even Jedi are. The Jedi require a lot of sacrifice. No attachment, certain abilities off limits, emotional control, and being held to account by the council. Where as grey jedi and the sith can just indulge in all that mess, but they also get the cool lightning powers. Its so juvenile, and misses the whole idea that the Dark Side is basically a fucking drug, a drug that ruins you and compells you to indulge in it more and more.
 
I love the idea that Rey using a staff is the same as using a double bladed saber. Did no one notice that the part of the staff Rey tends to grasp while weilding it isn't the center?

I'm pretty sure this just boils down to Lily thinking, "Wow that staff is long, so is a double sided saber, its perfect!".
To be fair, Jerry is far from the first person to run with the notion, hence why Rey's nonsensical vision in RoS was wielding one.

As someone who loved Starwars for years, I always hated the gray jedi, lightsided sith shit is that it so often just plays like a power fantasy, more so than even Jedi are. The Jedi require a lot of sacrifice. No attachment, certain abilities off limits, emotional control, and being held to account by the council. Where as grey jedi and the sith can just indulge in all that mess, but they also get the cool lightning powers. Its so juvenile, and misses the whole idea that the Dark Side is basically a fucking drug, a drug that ruins you and compells you to indulge in it more and more.

The problem with Gray Jedi is that there are two meanings to the phrase. The correct meaning is simply "A trained Jedi that operates outside the authority of the Jedi Order", while the more popular--and wrong--interpretation is to present it as the synthesis of Jedi and Sith, Light and Dark in perfect balance.

Fuck, now I've got to add "balance" and the notion of inherently Dark-aligned powers to the list of shit to pontificate about.

Reading this chapter is beyond aggravating because, in context, it isn't 'absolutely incriminating'-- if this were read as Aliana indoctrinating Rey this would be excellent. As an audience you can see the manipulation and careful twisting of information, but Rey -- isolated on a desert planet all her life, never having interacted with people in this way, being told that Aliana loves her -- wouldn't have any way of knowing that. She might have heard rumor about the Jedi and the Sith, but now meeting a Sith, whose love for her could potentially and literally move planets-- how can they possibly be evil? What lies has she been told?

And so Aliana digs in her claws. This whole conversation is indoctrination and if that were actually Lily's intent this would be great.

But of course this isn't manipulative, this is just... what it is. What Aliana's saying is just a flat belief that Lily holds, and that the universe will conform to.
Like I said, this is the kind of thing that needs a graduate-level paper to break down in the detail it deserves. To try and be brief without also derailing this into a Deep Thoughts thread, it's all in the juxtaposition to the Jedi code. The Jedi code is a code of discipline, of overcoming the worst parts of yourself. The Sith Code, on the other hand, is a code of self-indulgence, of gaining power and then using it to get what I want. This is fundamentally what Star Wars is, a story of selflessness versus selfishness.

(Also interesting from that Aliana goes on to say 'the Force shall set me free' when we know that she hates the Force and its manipulations.)

Well, we haven't quite gotten there in the story yet, but what this is is that Kreia/Avellone/Hegel philosophy I mentioned, and I suspect that Jerry has a soft spot for it because it ties into his own anti-theist views. Once again, indulging in exceptional brevity, the Star Wars galaxy has been in an off-and-on struggle between practitioners of the Light and Dark Sides for roughly 25,000 years. Kreia posits that this is because the Force itself plays games with the galaxy, entertaining itself by creating situations that kill billions time and time again. I, on the other hand, contest that the galaxy is like this because it is the nature of sentient life struggle to along this selfless/selfish axis, and that as the most powerful (and thematically emblematic) ends of this spectrum, the Jedi and Sith find themselves at the forefront of this battle.

I mean, which do you prefer? Star Wars as allegory for a cruel God that delights in inflicting misery, or as allegory for how hard yet ultimately rewarding it is to truly, genuinely be a good person?
 
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Well, we haven't quite gotten there in the story yet, but what this is is that Kreia/Avellone/Hegel philosophy I mentioned, and I suspect that Jerry has a soft spot for it because it ties into his own anti-theist views. Once again, indulging in exceptional brevity, the Star Wars galaxy has been in an off-and-on struggle between practitioners of the Light and Dark Sides for roughly 25,000 years. Kreia posits that this is because the Force itself plays games with the galaxy, entertaining itself by creating situations that kill billions time and time again. I, on the other hand, contest that the galaxy is like this because it is the nature of sentient life struggle to along this selfless/selfish axis, and that as the most powerful (and thematically emblematic) ends of this spectrum, the Jedi and Sith find themselves at the forefront of this battle.

I mean, which do you prefer? Star Wars as allegory for a cruel God that delights in inflicting misery, or as allegory for how hard yet ultimately rewarding it is to truly, genuinely be a good person?

Well the former obviously absolves me of any personal responsibility in my life while also giving me an option to get cool Dark Side powers...

Yeah, I know what she's going for, and she's argued on her Tumblr that one of the themes of the story (which, forgive me, but I thought she hated themes?) was about denying the power of bloodlines and fighting fate. The way you've worded it makes it obviously it's all about her daddy issues and how she treats the Force like her interpretation of Jehovah (a malevolent being that tormented the main characters but also gave them their incredible powers).

Which also obviously isn't really the case of what she's writing. All she had to do with this line was something like:

Aliana recited: "Through Passion, I gain Strength. Through Strength, I gain Power. Through Power, I gain Victory. Through Victory, my chains are broken." Her voice hardened. "The Force shall free me."

Setup!

It's just another case of Lily wanting to have her cake and eat it. She wants to 'defy' bloodline tradition but she still has proof that she can trace her lineage (even through adoption) straight to Lana Beniko. She wants to defy God her dad the Force so she explicitly makes the Force sentient and malicious but also wants cool Force powers so Aliana just... ignores the contradiction instead of sticking to her principles and refusing to indulge the Force, or realizing that she made it sentient to the point it could just cut off Aliana's powers once it realizes she's working against it.

Of course, judging by the chapter summaries she leaked before, this plot thread and the whole concept of 'fighting fate' winds up ignored so I guess the Force also knew that Aliana was too lazy to actually do anything against it.

(By the by, I have been thoroughly enjoying your chapter breakdowns and their philosophical tangents.)
 
To be fair, Jerry is far from the first person to run with the notion, hence why Rey's nonsensical vision in RoS was wielding one.

The problem with Gray Jedi is that there are two meanings to the phrase. The correct meaning is simply "A trained Jedi that operates outside the authority of the Jedi Order", while the more popular--and wrong--interpretation is to present it as the synthesis of Jedi and Sith, Light and Dark in perfect balance.

Fuck, now I've got to add "balance" and the notion of inherently Dark-aligned powers to the list of shit to pontificate about.

Like I said, this is the kind of thing that needs a graduate-level paper to break down in the detail it deserves. To try and be brief without also derailing this into a Deep Thoughts thread, it's all in the juxtaposition to the Jedi code. The Jedi code is a code of discipline, of overcoming the worst parts of yourself. The Sith Code, on the other hand, is a code of self-indulgence, of gaining power and then using it to get what I want. This is fundamentally what Star Wars is, a story of selflessness versus selfishness.

Well, we haven't quite gotten there in the story yet, but what this is is that Kreia/Avellone/Hegel philosophy I mentioned, and I suspect that Jerry has a soft spot for it because it ties into his own anti-theist views. Once again, indulging in exceptional brevity, the Star Wars galaxy has been in an off-and-on struggle between practitioners of the Light and Dark Sides for roughly 25,000 years. Kreia posits that this is because the Force itself plays games with the galaxy, entertaining itself by creating situations that kill billions time and time again. I, on the other hand, contest that the galaxy is like this because it is the nature of sentient life struggle to along this selfless/selfish axis, and that as the most powerful (and thematically emblematic) ends of this spectrum, the Jedi and Sith find themselves at the forefront of this battle.

I mean, which do you prefer? Star Wars as allegory for a cruel God that delights in inflicting misery, or as allegory for how hard yet ultimately rewarding it is to truly, genuinely be a good person?

Very true, I know Lily wasn't the first, but for someone trying to pass themself off as some media expert, you'd think she'd have thought about it for a few seconds.

And the gray Jedi thing you mentioned is very true, because I remember KOTOR had Jolee Bindo, and he was more or less just an unaligned Jedi. The problem I have is most people don't use it like that.

Also, maybe I'm misremembering (its been years since I played KOTOR II) but wasn't it heavily implied that Kreia's plan would more likely than not wipe out most if not all sentient life?
 
Well the former obviously absolves me of any personal responsibility in my life while also giving me an option to get cool Dark Side powers...

Yeah, I know what she's going for, and she's argued on her Tumblr that one of the themes of the story (which, forgive me, but I thought she hated themes?) was about denying the power of bloodlines and fighting fate. The way you've worded it makes it obviously it's all about her daddy issues and how she treats the Force like her interpretation of Jehovah (a malevolent being that tormented the main characters but also gave them their incredible powers).

Which also obviously isn't really the case of what she's writing. All she had to do with this line was something like:



Setup!

It's just another case of Lily wanting to have her cake and eat it. She wants to 'defy' bloodline tradition but she still has proof that she can trace her lineage (even through adoption) straight to Lana Beniko. She wants to defy God her dad the Force so she explicitly makes the Force sentient and malicious but also wants cool Force powers so Aliana just... ignores the contradiction instead of sticking to her principles and refusing to indulge the Force, or realizing that she made it sentient to the point it could just cut off Aliana's powers once it realizes she's working against it.

Of course, judging by the chapter summaries she leaked before, this plot thread and the whole concept of 'fighting fate' winds up ignored so I guess the Force also knew that Aliana was too lazy to actually do anything against it.

(By the by, I have been thoroughly enjoying your chapter breakdowns and their philosophical tangents.)
I feel like its been mentioned in this thread before, but another thing that makes Lily's writing so bland is that she's basically been writing the same few stories over and over for years, just in different settings. Because the parallels between Sith Resurgence and Tales of the Val'kyr are so painfully obvious once their "themes" are laid out plainly. She just replaced Valithria with Aliana and Jehova with The Force itself. Poke Madhouse is like an attempt to re-use ideas from Animal Magnetism but make them slightly more palatable (I didn't reproduce with my Gardevoir, she just mixed my DNA with hers in a machine and it indirectly created a hybrid child. No sex involved.) I'm sure that her WoW writings are probably similar, in that Anduin represents her daddy issues or something.
 
Also, maybe I'm misremembering (its been years since I played KOTOR II) but wasn't it heavily implied that Kreia's plan would more likely than not wipe out most if not all sentient life?
At the very least, it would kill a shit ton of Force Users, she basically hoped that the Exile's nature could be exploited to kill the force itself (the game intentionally doesn't make it clear if this is actually feasible). As we saw on Dantooine if you don't kill the Jedi Masters, Kreia submits them to the same forced fission that the Exile and Nihlus experienced amidst Malachor's destruction (this is different what they do the the Exile); the shock of it killed them. So, at the very least, people who are heavily tied to the force would die from the experience.

Though, the force is life itself, binding together even those who aren't force sensitive, so I imagine that if you did do such untold damage to it, everyone would be fucked.
 
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Oh grow up.

You can't complain about people suggesting cartoons to you, and at the same time complain about people ignoring your recommendations.
The world doesn't operate on exceptional pillow fort rules.
This is a sure sign that Jerry never had friends and was insufferable to anyone he happened to have captive. Can you imagine? “How DARE you recommend a show to me this is MY house!”
 
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Oh grow up.

You can't complain about people suggesting cartoons to you, and at the same time complain about people ignoring your recommendations.
The world doesn't operate on exceptional pillow fort rules.
I thought her job was reviewing things? I'd gladly take suggestions from people that would make my research easier. That comes a little close to being social though, obviously too much for Lily to deal with.
 
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Well the former obviously absolves me of any personal responsibility in my life while also giving me an option to get cool Dark Side powers...

Yeah, I know what she's going for, and she's argued on her Tumblr that one of the themes of the story (which, forgive me, but I thought she hated themes?) was about denying the power of bloodlines and fighting fate. The way you've worded it makes it obviously it's all about her daddy issues and how she treats the Force like her interpretation of Jehovah (a malevolent being that tormented the main characters but also gave them their incredible powers).

Which also obviously isn't really the case of what she's writing. All she had to do with this line was something like:



Setup!

It's just another case of Lily wanting to have her cake and eat it. She wants to 'defy' bloodline tradition but she still has proof that she can trace her lineage (even through adoption) straight to Lana Beniko. She wants to defy God her dad the Force so she explicitly makes the Force sentient and malicious but also wants cool Force powers so Aliana just... ignores the contradiction instead of sticking to her principles and refusing to indulge the Force, or realizing that she made it sentient to the point it could just cut off Aliana's powers once it realizes she's working against it.

Of course, judging by the chapter summaries she leaked before, this plot thread and the whole concept of 'fighting fate' winds up ignored so I guess the Force also knew that Aliana was too lazy to actually do anything against it.
I suspect that it's also a case of Jerry just parroting the smartest character he can find to make himself look smart by proxy. Pretty much all the EU canon we have real indication Jerry has actually explored is the KotOR/ToR games and The Force Unleashed, and of that cast, Kreia uses the biggest words. He certainly hasn't put any actual critical thought into Kreia's worldview beyond "So it's like God, I like this".

(By the by, I have been thoroughly enjoying your chapter breakdowns and their philosophical tangents.)
Always a relief to hear. Stickers are good for a quick dopamine hit, but nothing quite beats engagement.

Very true, I know Lily wasn't the first, but for someone trying to pass themself off as some media expert, you'd think she'd have thought about it for a few seconds.

And the gray Jedi thing you mentioned is very true, because I remember KOTOR had Jolee Bindo, and he was more or less just an unaligned Jedi. The problem I have is most people don't use it like that.

Also, maybe I'm misremembering (its been years since I played KOTOR II) but wasn't it heavily implied that Kreia's plan would more likely than not wipe out most if not all sentient life?
As I said, "balance" is probably something I'm going to have to write about at length, but I can probably make a quick version. Star Wars deliberately couches the Jedi Order in motifs of several real-world religions, essentially digging at a deeper moral truth behind the various expressions of spiritualism. To give the people who ascribe to the internet notion of Gray Jedi more credit than they probably deserve, the concept appears to come from over-focusing on the Taoist influences of the Jedi, reading the Light and the Dark not as a battle of one's own heart, but as fundamental cosmic forces, neither good nor evil in their own right. They then attempt to find "balance" by once again going to our good old friend Hegel, and apply his thesis-antithesis-synthesis theory to arrive as the Gray Jedi as they imagine them. Like Kreia, they present this idea as the Ur-answer, the solution to the puzzle of Star Wars, and that sheer fucking hubris alone ought to be reason enough to discount them.

At the very least, it would kill a shit ton of Force Users, she basically hoped that the Exile's nature could be exploited to kill the force itself (the game intentionally doesn't make it clear if this is actually feasible). As we saw on Dantooine if you don't kill the Jedi Masters, Kreia submits them to the same forced fission that the Exile and Nihlus experienced amidst Malachor's destruction (this is different what they do the the Exile); the shock of it killed them. So, at the very least, people who are heavily tied to the force would die from the experience.

Though, the force is life itself, binding together even those who aren't force sensitive, so I imagine that if you did do such untold damage to it, everyone would be fucked.
I'll have to take your word on that one, I'm still working on it. Credit where credit is due, this mess has at least gotten me to finally boot it up for myself instead of relying on secondary sources.

I feel like its been mentioned in this thread before, but another thing that makes Lily's writing so bland is that she's basically been writing the same few stories over and over for years, just in different settings. Because the parallels between Sith Resurgence and Tales of the Val'kyr are so painfully obvious once their "themes" are laid out plainly. She just replaced Valithria with Aliana and Jehova with The Force itself. Poke Madhouse is like an attempt to re-use ideas from Animal Magnetism but make them slightly more palatable (I didn't reproduce with my Gardevoir, she just mixed my DNA with hers in a machine and it indirectly created a hybrid child. No sex involved.) I'm sure that her WoW writings are probably similar, in that Anduin represents her daddy issues or something.
The observation has been made before, but I'm sure as fuck not going to read Jerry's entire lexicon to find out for myself.
 
This is a sure sign that Jerry never had friends and was insufferable to anyone he happened to have captive. Can you imagine? “How DARE you recommend a show to me this is MY house!”

this is actually true, she once complained that lizzy kept wanting to talk about the walking dead with her while they were dating lol
 
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I know she's wearing a mask so we couldn't even see if she's smiling, but why does she look so dead inside? Those are not the eyes of someone you'd think is on her way to marry the love of her life. More so like someone that's going to visit her disfunctional family for Christmas.

I wonder if she has any thoughts about the fact she's marrying without her family, without any friends of her own and in a basement apartment in a country she doesn't know.
 
Hi there! Been lurking in this thread for a while, so I'm relatively up to date with the sad life of Lily's.

I don't thing these got posted before, they're from a couple days ago:
Her brand of humor is absolutely fucking perplexing to me..
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If I'd didn't know better I'd think Rey is a 9y old kid or something. You could replace most her lines with Bonnie really.

Which is something that really grosses me out about her writing, old an current, how every character that is a bit younger acts like a literal child. Maybe it's a bit more aggravating to me because I've been trying to read Stockholm the last few weeks, and the way she wrote teenagers in there is just about the most exceptional thing I've ever read. And she continues to write the same way 7 years later...

She seems to strictly only processes women as either little children of sexual objects. Not mutually exclusive.
So if I understand right, to Lily, when a woman isn't behaving in a sexual manner, she must be behaving in a childish manner, since there is nothing else she could be (that is considered good behavior to Lily, everything else is abusive). She doesn't seem to comprehend how childlike behavior is attributed to children and not adults or what the difference is - since she's emotionally a child herself.
The Madonna-Whore Complex, so prevalent among sexually repressed young men.
 
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I know she's wearing a mask so we couldn't even see if she's smiling, but why does she look so dead inside? Those are not the eyes of someone you'd think is on her way to marry the love of her life. More so like someone that's going to visit her disfunctional family for Christmas.

I wonder if she has any thoughts about the fact she's marrying without her family, without any friends of her own and in a basement apartment in a country she doesn't know.

tbf air traveling is pretty tiring
 
I know she's wearing a mask so we couldn't even see if she's smiling, but why does she look so dead inside? Those are not the eyes of someone you'd think is on her way to marry the love of her life. More so like someone that's going to visit her disfunctional family for Christmas.

I wonder if she has any thoughts about the fact she's marrying without her family, without any friends of her own and in a basement apartment in a country she doesn't know.
Ey, her lack of emotion I'd be charitable and chalk it up to flight fatigue. Sometimes you just can't manage a smile.
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She's got to fly out of either Toronto or Montreal due to COVID, So from Rochester NY to Toronto ON is 3 hours. She'll mill about take a covid test and then hop on another plane to Halifax which is another hour or so.
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