Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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Funny thing is, I think Luke might be the best written character in TSR? That's mostly based on samples from the chapters rather than a dedicated reading, but as stated, yeah. He's cautious but polite. He asks legitimate questions. He treats Aliana with the dignity and respect that any person deserves without bowing down and kissing her butt like the 'good characters' are supposed to. Under the assumption he fled to this remote planet to become an angry hermit, he's pretty chill when confronting Aliana and Rey. I dare say Lily treats him with more respect than the movie does, interpreting him as a broken, haunted man instead of a comically bitter hermit.

I'm also certain this is unintentional, and this is a pretty funny consistency in Lily's writing. The character's we're supposed to like are inconsistent, smarmy shitheads who everybody good on the planet bows down to and the ones we're supposed to hate -- identified by how they don't worship her characters -- wind up being the most reasonable, understandable, and relatable. Leia is badly written but she's the only person in the Resistance that makes a lick of sense. Luke is supposed to be a mom-killer and potential child murderer but he's very mellow and reasonable. Over in Poke-Madhouse we don't see enough of characters outside of the compound, but Dr. Ponytail is the only person who acts like a human being in that train wreck and I want her to succeed in suing Lily's ass off for ruining the Silph Co. experiment to revitalize a near-extinct species.

I think the only character she's 'succeeded' at making unlikeable intentionally is Anevay's mother.

Another cut for pacing reasons, have Rey's current feelings about Aliana.

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"She was too beautiful to stay mad at."

Get bent, Lily.

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The person who was previously reading through TSR got to this point and it strikes me all over again that, once more, this fic was supposed to be about Rey escaping a 'toxic relationship' and finding love and happiness with somebody else, but instead it's all about ME ME ME ME Aliana. Rey is supposed to be the one who wanted to find Luke. As I recall, she kept at him, demanding he listen to her and train her. I'm not big on Rey a character but at least she had a drive and determination.

Instead, it's all Aliana. Rey isn't just flabbergasted or star-struck, she is completely silent through the whole 'negotiation' at the start. Aliana is the one who calls out to Luke. When he leaves, Rey doesn't object, Aliana just keeps going. Rey is rooted to the spot while Aliana completely consumes the scene, and the follow-up isn't Luke being intrigued by the girl who wants to be a Jedi, it's him finding Aliana and asking her for an exposition dump.

Rey has been utterly stripped of her agency throughout this story, and it's intentional. It's part of Lily's character interpretation of Rey. She has said in Asks that Rey's motivation boils down to 'left Jakku, no more thoughts'. Lily did this thing when they went to see Maz where Rey was really taken aback by a planet being so green and teeming with life, and she asks Aliana if they can go visit an ocean planet afterwards. If Rey's motivation was to expand her horizons and really see all the galaxy, I could at least get behind her as somebody who's sheltered and who has the joie de vivre to want to explore. But instead she's literally boiled down to 'be with Aliana', 'make a life with Aliana', 'settle down with Aliana', 'hang off Aliana like a keychain'.

I know this whole story is just 'okay but what if I was in Star Wars and I was a super cool Sith Lord and I had all the best stuff and Rey loved me and I was so cool you guys', but again again again, we're dealing with somebody who is approaching thirty and claims that this is better than canon, and who's writing like a fourteen year old who just learned about fanfiction.

And boy do I mean writing like a fourteen year old.

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I've harped on about the art at every opportunity thus far, but this is a new kind of failure. Previous art had had trouble conveying any sense of emotion, but this one is actively conveying the wrong emotion. This is Rey curling up on the edge of a cliff in the rain after Aliana flips out at her over being shot at and not getting an explanation for what the fuck is going on, not Rey snuggling up and thinking about hot, steamy lesbian sex.
I'm actually going to give Mikaila the benefit of the doubt here. If somebody had handed me a dense paragraph that said 'Rey smelled a cloak' twelve different ways, my eyes would have glossed over, too.

Actually, I would have read the sentence "She honestly could not get over how pleasant the cloak smelled" and then cut off all contact. Holy shit.

It would be hyperbole to say that was the worst sentence I ever read, or the worst paragraph, but it's up there. I've said before that Lily's writing is 'competent', structurally, compared to a lot of other fanfiction out there, but it hits this kind of... uncanny valley of the English language. It's mostly correct, but there's something off about it, and the more you actually read, the more it becomes clear.

She's constantly using bad similes. She's constantly reiterating the point. She's constantly explaining something that should be evident from expression. She used the phrase 'could only be described as'. She fills her sentences with unnecessary verbiage. She repeats herself multiple times in a row. She reiterates the point excessively. That fucking 'sniff the cloak' paragraph is nine sentences long and she throws in "she honestly could not get over it", like apparently she might have been lying about it being pleasant? We had to be told 'honestly'? That's a colloquialism for forum discussions, not prose.

(Also, rose water and cinnamon? Yick.)

It's amateurish in a way where you would think the person is young and trying too hard. You want to make a point about the cloak because it seems like it's romantic? Better ram it down the audience's throat until they vomit.

There's just layers of bad, always made worse by how Lily props it up. I don't really recommend looking at the TVTropes for TSR, but if you do, you'll see that she definitely thinks her own farts smell like rose water and cinnamon.
 
Mikaila finally came to Liliana's basement apartment and the first thing she talks about it's the computer. Call me unromantic, but somehow doesn't strike as a nice gesture to make your partner, who came to marry you after how many hours of flight and went through so many airpots, help you set up what was supposed to be her own present. Maybe they see it differently.


Liliana meanwhile's just talking about the jobs of Scar's characters, whinning about "white fandom" and rebloguing cute art of Amity on tumblr. On twitter the last thing she published was a Family Guy video to an article, more whinning about fandom and then vagueposting about TGT. Truly a woman in love. I can see what an important date this is for her.
 
Lily's OC not joining up with the First Order because they (in her cannon and nowhere else) hate "the gays" and are led by Kylo. Holy shit.

Lily, you're supposed to be writing a sith. Its basically their raison d'etre to kill whoever is in charge and take over. Who cares if Kylo is in charge? Sith up, and take his spot by force.

Also, tacitly saying you'd join a military group that's nuking solar systems, if only they'd let you slam clams so I guess you'll have to find some other way to completely fuck up the galaxy.
 
"The only reason I didn't join the evil Galactic Space Nazis is because I hate their boss and because it personally clashes with my sexuality specifically."

This. Is. Not. The. Righteous. Act. You. Think. It. Is. JERRY.

"I didn't join this group not because it clashed with my morales but because it meant I couldn't indulge freely in the things I specifically enjoy and partake in" is a totally selfish, COMPLETELY INANE set of "rules" a character should follow who is specifically written to be in the moral right?

So Not-Jerry doesn't have a problem with the warmongering, the planet destroying, the totalitarian rule, the abuse of power, the atrocities commited against life, the obstruction of freedoms, the willing exploitation of others Etceter-fucking-a, but prevent "her" from getting off? Oh fuck no, that's the deal-breaker right there.

You're kidding me here, how does this story keep getting worse?
 
"I didn't join this group not because it clashed with my morales but because it meant I couldn't indulge freely in the things I specifically enjoy and partake in" is a totally selfish, COMPLETELY INANE set of "rules" a character should follow who is specifically written to be in the moral right?
This honestly isn't all that far off from Lily's own ideals. Really, the only thing keeping her from being a conservative (or neo-nazi, even) is just that they hate the gays and that's pretty much it. Things are good so long as they don't inconvenience her, personally, and things are bad if they inconvenience her personally.
 
This honestly isn't all that far off from Lily's own ideals. Really, the only thing keeping her from being a conservative (or neo-nazi, even) is just that they hate the gays and that's pretty much it. Things are good so long as they don't inconvenience her, personally, and things are bad if they inconvenience her personally.

this doesnt surprise me, tbh. i remember reacting with horror on this very thread that lily's oc from that fucking valkyrie thing was an authoritarian THAT DEMANDED HER PERMISSION TO LET PEOPLE MARRY OR CHANGE NAMES and apparently this was fine with our good old lily
 
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One thing I noticed: her habit of anon answers hasn’t slowed now that she isn’t alone in the house. You think Mikay is just sitting there giggling with her when she answers posts like this? Or do you think she in some corner of Lily’s den just keeping herself occupied untill Lily pays her any attention.
 
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I'm actually going to give Mikaila the benefit of the doubt here. If somebody had handed me a dense paragraph that said 'Rey smelled a cloak' twelve different ways, my eyes would have glossed over, too.

Actually, I would have read the sentence "She honestly could not get over how pleasant the cloak smelled" and then cut off all contact. Holy shit.

It would be hyperbole to say that was the worst sentence I ever read, or the worst paragraph, but it's up there. I've said before that Lily's writing is 'competent', structurally, compared to a lot of other fanfiction out there, but it hits this kind of... uncanny valley of the English language. It's mostly correct, but there's something off about it, and the more you actually read, the more it becomes clear.

She's constantly using bad similes. She's constantly reiterating the point. She's constantly explaining something that should be evident from expression. She used the phrase 'could only be described as'. She fills her sentences with unnecessary verbiage. She repeats herself multiple times in a row. She reiterates the point excessively. That fucking 'sniff the cloak' paragraph is nine sentences long and she throws in "she honestly could not get over it", like apparently she might have been lying about it being pleasant? We had to be told 'honestly'? That's a colloquialism for forum discussions, not prose.

A good point for Mikaila. If the scene had been about half as long, say ending at "If only she were this close to Aliana instead of just her cloak.", then I could have bought the expression as "wistful". If I haven't said it before, then let it be known that prose critique isn't my strong suit. If it isn't "holy shit this is bad" or "holy shit this is good", I tend to be able to just roll with things, so thanks for being the local Grammar Nazi.

Rey has been utterly stripped of her agency throughout this story, and it's intentional. It's part of Lily's character interpretation of Rey. She has said in Asks that Rey's motivation boils down to 'left Jakku, no more thoughts'. Lily did this thing when they went to see Maz where Rey was really taken aback by a planet being so green and teeming with life, and she asks Aliana if they can go visit an ocean planet afterwards. If Rey's motivation was to expand her horizons and really see all the galaxy, I could at least get behind her as somebody who's sheltered and who has the joie de vivre to want to explore. But instead she's literally boiled down to 'be with Aliana', 'make a life with Aliana', 'settle down with Aliana', 'hang off Aliana like a keychain'.

I know this whole story is just 'okay but what if I was in Star Wars and I was a super cool Sith Lord and I had all the best stuff and Rey loved me and I was so cool you guys', but again again again, we're dealing with somebody who is approaching thirty and claims that this is better than canon, and who's writing like a fourteen year old who just learned about fanfiction.

Similarly, I reiterate that romance isn't a strength of mine, either, which is why I tend to just make jabs at it, and don't even ask me when my abuse detector last got calibrated. However, I did have a bit of an epiphany today, spurned on by the "Lots of women find me attractive" line. What occurred to me is that if you gender-flipped Aliana, I would swear this was Elliot Rodgers' self-insert fic: the story of a true gentleman who elegantly yet effortlessly seduces the beautiful but chaste maiden until she is completely devoted to his every whim.

Lily's OC not joining up with the First Order because they (in her cannon and nowhere else) hate "the gays" and are led by Kylo. Holy shit.

Lily, you're supposed to be writing a sith. Its basically their raison d'etre to kill whoever is in charge and take over. Who cares if Kylo is in charge? Sith up, and take his spot by force.

Also, tacitly saying you'd join a military group that's nuking solar systems, if only they'd let you slam clams so I guess you'll have to find some other way to completely fuck up the galaxy.
"The only reason I didn't join the evil Galactic Space Nazis is because I hate their boss and because it personally clashes with my sexuality specifically."

This. Is. Not. The. Righteous. Act. You. Think. It. Is. JERRY.

"I didn't join this group not because it clashed with my morales but because it meant I couldn't indulge freely in the things I specifically enjoy and partake in" is a totally selfish, COMPLETELY INANE set of "rules" a character should follow who is specifically written to be in the moral right?

So Not-Jerry doesn't have a problem with the warmongering, the planet destroying, the totalitarian rule, the abuse of power, the atrocities commited against life, the obstruction of freedoms, the willing exploitation of others Etceter-fucking-a, but prevent "her" from getting off? Oh fuck no, that's the deal-breaker right there.

You're kidding me here, how does this story keep getting worse?
Well, what else did you expect from a Sith?

In all seriousness, though, I did kind of drop the ball not hammering that one. I got to the "muh gay oppression" and my eyes just kinda glazed over. I think I'm starting to reach the point of desensitization to whatever nonsense Jerry comes up with.

This honestly isn't all that far off from Lily's own ideals. Really, the only thing keeping her from being a conservative (or neo-nazi, even) is just that they hate the gays and that's pretty much it. Things are good so long as they don't inconvenience her, personally, and things are bad if they inconvenience her personally.
I mean, that's sort of the nature of dealing with centralized power structures: you reach a point where it's all just variations on a national-scale Company Store, and from there it pretty much just comes down to brand loyalty.
 
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I agree for once.

Spectre get your advice from somone else. This girl has issues with being possessive and owning her partners. That’s why she aims for marriage as soon as possible. Mikay hasn’t spent a month solid with Lily in the same room. It’s doomed to be an abusive marriage or, if she’s smart a quick divorce.
 
@thebananaonion I think you have my favorite spooky avatar.
cheers mate- dont think im getting rid of it until i get bored or lily finally admits that having pedozoophilic fantasies is wrong and something that you shouldn't post online on a platform where minors can see it.

i wanna talk about the love boing thing. i might have in the past but as a refresher-

lily's pulling an abusive bitch tactic here.

love bombing can be okay depending on circumstances (i.e birthdays, holidays, your ritch and and have nothing better to waste money on) but the fact lily is advertising it publically is odd. It's tacky at best but manipulative at worst.

also its a narcissistic abuse tactic. I've spoken about this in the past in more detail but one sign of a narcissit is love bombing/ using whats important to you against you. Mikaila needs a computer otherwise she has no job(?) in her youtube/art. she needs it for communication with others too (i know she has a mobile but imagine if that goes bust, then what?), and having a computer is just a neat thing to have if your bored and want to game, write, fuck knows else.

for a woman who claims she's poor lily sure as hell finds ways to pay for big gifts like mikila's PC ficxing up-ing, stuff for lizzy too back in the day and i think she bought Ginger a drawing tablet too-correct me on that.

not trying to be an armchair doctor here buuuut when the key fits, it fits.especially with how many other points lily aligns with narc behavior and with lizy's past testimonies.
 
I'm still curious on if this is a move or not. Because, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like Lily built a small PC.

The TSA states that a desktop can be transported in a carry-on, but that's subject to the agent letting her.

So, on top of the love-bomb it is, if Mikaila's not able to get it back to where she was, it'll be a really shitty thing to dangle over her head.

Assuming the worst, if Mikaila does anything to leave Canada she will have no computer until she goes back.
 
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I'm a big fan of the Souls games, I don't like all of them, I hate 2 and I dislike 3, but I can tell you they're pretty good overall. Lily is not a fan, that's fine, but I think she's mischaracterized how the game's combat work.
In fairness, she's right when she says a lot of the combat nowadays has been reduced to R1 spam, particularly Bloodborne. However she undermines her point when she says that parrying is gambling.

Parrying isn't luck based, it requires timing, and spamming it doesn't work (usually). A feature that requires skill and timing isn't luck based, that's not how luck works. I feel like this might be salt from her bloodborne playthrough.

Earlier she says defense, dodging, and attacking use the same resource. That's the point. Attacking without thinking doesn't always work. If you attack too much you'll be exhausted or parried and give the enemy an opening. That's one of the features that discourages mindless aggression actually. It works in the same direction, if you dodge spam during an attack, you'll be out of stamina during you're
opening.
She had this same stupid line of thought when she complained about having no i-frames while you heal. That's the point. If you just heal without thinking you're opening yourself up to more damage. You have to think about when you need to heal.

And that's just combat without anything like spells, miracles, pyromancies, buffs, debuffs, rings/runes, ninja skills, etc.

Another thing she complains about: "you're supposed to die". Not exactly. The only mechanics the games introduce by killing you are things like curses, which are supposed to instantly kill you. Deaths brought about by curses are a good way of telling players: avoid curses. The only other unfair deaths I can think of are traps, some of which aren't fair, but some only require observation: which reckless players don't use. And furthermore, death isn't that punishing in souls games. Just try again.
Games like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 wouldn't tell you all the mechanics, which was supposed to give a sense of adventure and danger. It might've been annoying, but it made you genuinely careful in new areas like a person in a dangerous situation would be.

This whole thing reminds me of Lily's pokemon playthrough, she only uses Gardevoir, she spams rare candies until it can just curb stomp everything, and she hates cutscenes and having to do mandatory things. Lily doesn't really want a new or challenging experience, she wants to feel good. There's nothing wrong with that, but just because games like Dark Souls don't make her feel good, doesn't mean they're inherently bad. Just Git Gud Lily.
 
Y'know, with all the posting Lily's been doing, I'm surprised she hasn't shown off the wedding/engagement rings yet. Hopefully, they're not onion.
I doubt she got another expensive ring to usurp the rings they already got each other:
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They aren’t posting about it because to them it’s already old news. If the wedding itself goes unmarked I’ll be surprised.
I mean the thread has gotten on their best outfits and everything
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I wish a healthy retirement to all the teachers and staff at Sackville High circa 2009.
You didn't deserve all that crap from Lily just for a paycheck. :drink:

Get over it, Lily. You're 30.
 
I doubt she got another expensive ring to usurp the rings they already got each other:
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They aren’t posting about it because to them it’s already old news. If the wedding itself goes unmarked I’ll be surprised.
I mean the thread has gotten on their best outfits and everything
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I wish a healthy retirement to all the teachers and staff at Sackville High circa 2009.
You didn't deserve all that crap from Lily just for a paycheck. :drink:

Get over it, Lily. You're 30.
If we're being honest, I mean, Lily's fans are like 15. They probably look at a wedding the same way they look at smut art. I don't think she'll get any worthwhile input from them, this is probably a bigger thing in her discord or among her actual friends.

And another thing, if this wedding and these rings really mean anything to her, I think the last thing she wants is to post about it so the thread can take a big dump on it. If I had a Kiwifarms thread, the last thing I would do is gush about things I don't want ruined.
 
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I'm a big fan of the Souls games, I don't like all of them, I hate 2 and I dislike 3, but I can tell you they're pretty good overall. Lily is not a fan, that's fine, but I think she's mischaracterized how the game's combat work.
In fairness, she's right when she says a lot of the combat nowadays has been reduced to R1 spam, particularly Bloodborne. However she undermines her point when she says that parrying is gambling.

Parrying isn't luck based, it requires timing, and spamming it doesn't work (usually). A feature that requires skill and timing isn't luck based, that's not how luck works. I feel like this might be salt from her bloodborne playthrough.

Earlier she says defense, dodging, and attacking use the same resource. That's the point. Attacking without thinking doesn't always work. If you attack too much you'll be exhausted or parried and give the enemy an opening. That's one of the features that discourages mindless aggression actually. It works in the same direction, if you dodge spam during an attack, you'll be out of stamina during you're
opening.
She had this same stupid line of thought when she complained about having no i-frames while you heal. That's the point. If you just heal without thinking you're opening yourself up to more damage. You have to think about when you need to heal.

And that's just combat without anything like spells, miracles, pyromancies, buffs, debuffs, rings/runes, ninja skills, etc.

Another thing she complains about: "you're supposed to die". Not exactly. The only mechanics the games introduce by killing you are things like curses, which are supposed to instantly kill you. Deaths brought about by curses are a good way of telling players: avoid curses. The only other unfair deaths I can think of are traps, some of which aren't fair, but some only require observation: which reckless players don't use. And furthermore, death isn't that punishing in souls games. Just try again.
Games like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 wouldn't tell you all the mechanics, which was supposed to give a sense of adventure and danger. It might've been annoying, but it made you genuinely careful in new areas like a person in a dangerous situation would be.
And here we have a classic example of "someone who doesn't vibe with a genre/game trying to justify why the genre/game is entirely bad rather than them not vibing with the game". It's so transparent that Lily has never actually played the game for very long because much of what she has said can be disproven. "Prepare to die" only became a tagline starting with Dark Souls 2, the black sheep of the series and infamous for actually having design issues. The games encourage a multitude of playstyles; though nerfing some of the more "power-fantasy-esque" playstyles (like Sorcery) in later games. If there's any consistent "style" the game encourages, it's a degree of caution and awareness. You shouldn't go galivanting into areas without being sure you can deal with the monsters' attacks or being sure you haven't missed any traps. Humanities are a near instant form of healing with near maximum HP; but also give soft humanity; objectively making your situation better. Estus and Healing Miracles takes longer and can be interrupted, but are a consistent, always easy to maintain resource whilst Humanities have some degree of scarcity. She can claim all she wants that the best defense is only parrying (which is patently false, anyone who tries to ascend Anor Londo and knows about those Silver Knight Archers would easily tell you that parrying isn't the most intuitive way of dealing with them) and is luck based (which is also false; unless talking about really bad lag in PvP). It feels like if Lily's describing ANY Dark Souls, it's probably Dark Souls 2, but that also did a lot of things that invalidate encounter difficulty (namely Life Gems). Hell; the only forced death I can think about is the first encounter with Seath.

And honestly, I'm deeply surprised that Lily would have such a low opinion of Soulsborne games considering hbomberguy is well known for being a decent fan of them (even if he does a damn poor job at defending Dark Souls 2).
 
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I'm a big fan of the Souls games, I don't like all of them, I hate 2 and I dislike 3, but I can tell you they're pretty good overall. Lily is not a fan, that's fine, but I think she's mischaracterized how the game's combat work.
In fairness, she's right when she says a lot of the combat nowadays has been reduced to R1 spam, particularly Bloodborne. However she undermines her point when she says that parrying is gambling.

Parrying isn't luck based, it requires timing, and spamming it doesn't work (usually). A feature that requires skill and timing isn't luck based, that's not how luck works. I feel like this might be salt from her bloodborne playthrough.

Earlier she says defense, dodging, and attacking use the same resource. That's the point. Attacking without thinking doesn't always work. If you attack too much you'll be exhausted or parried and give the enemy an opening. That's one of the features that discourages mindless aggression actually. It works in the same direction, if you dodge spam during an attack, you'll be out of stamina during you're
opening.
She had this same stupid line of thought when she complained about having no i-frames while you heal. That's the point. If you just heal without thinking you're opening yourself up to more damage. You have to think about when you need to heal.

And that's just combat without anything like spells, miracles, pyromancies, buffs, debuffs, rings/runes, ninja skills, etc.

Another thing she complains about: "you're supposed to die". Not exactly. The only mechanics the games introduce by killing you are things like curses, which are supposed to instantly kill you. Deaths brought about by curses are a good way of telling players: avoid curses. The only other unfair deaths I can think of are traps, some of which aren't fair, but some only require observation: which reckless players don't use. And furthermore, death isn't that punishing in souls games. Just try again.
Games like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 wouldn't tell you all the mechanics, which was supposed to give a sense of adventure and danger. It might've been annoying, but it made you genuinely careful in new areas like a person in a dangerous situation would be.

This whole thing reminds me of Lily's pokemon playthrough, she only uses Gardevoir, she spams rare candies until it can just curb stomp everything, and she hates cutscenes and having to do mandatory things. Lily doesn't really want a new or challenging experience, she wants to feel good. There's nothing wrong with that, but just because games like Dark Souls don't make her feel good, doesn't mean they're inherently bad. Just Git Gud Lily.
Regardless of her criticisms of Dark Souls as a series and why they do or don't hold water, I don't disagree (actually, I agree completely) with her core message of "games where you die a bunch" being an unappealing design model (yes, it's strictly an opinion thing, but still). I don't really think of games like "Cat Mario" and "I Wanna Be The Guy" as games, strictly speaking. They hardly count as platformers, even; those take skill, which trial and error doesn't really fall under. Lots of people have a hard time telling the difference between a genuinely difficult game that tests your skills from a game that's just trial and error. Admittedly, the line between the two is very thin (which the Touhou fandom learned the hard way back in 2015 when Legacy Of Lunatic Kingdom was released to... mixed reception, to put it mildly).
 
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