Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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Mikaila recently updated the woman's design to have a muffin-top.

I like the washed-up vibe this gives but I can't NOT think about how Lily has said she finds muffin tops sexy and understand why this decision was made.

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What is this. What the fuck is this.

I assume she was trying to do that particular 'evil laugh' pose from anime but what the fuck is this. The more I look at it the worse it gets. Why does the palm of her left arm (which is dislocated at the elbow) look like the heel of a foot? Oh my god.

Read the book first before making promisses Lily.

This book contains:

> Lesbians
> Daddy issues
> The author obviously vomiting all of their baggage across the page

Seems like it's right up Lily's alley.
 
every time I think I'm done, something pulls me back in.
the site won't let me reply directly to Stuck Pooh so forgive me.
I know it's like..I think it's different artists but like, there sure is something to be said about the Lily/Henchwoman character being drawn in the most flattering and appealing fashion while the supposed protagonist looks...like not a good rendition of a gremlin? Like...why does everything but the face look decent? why does this feel kind of racist?
if this comic/story comes out I'm sure I'll spill an ungodly amount of time highlighting how bad the writing it in it is.
 
every time I think I'm done, something pulls me back in.
Don't forget you're here forever.
I like the washed-up vibe this gives but I can't NOT think about how Lily has said she finds muffin tops sexy and understand why this decision was made.
What is this. What the fuck is this.

I assume she was trying to do that particular 'evil laugh' pose from anime but what the fuck is this. The more I look at it the worse it gets. Why does the palm of her left arm (which is dislocated at the elbow) look like the heel of a foot? Oh my god.
Nothing says competent professional like a beer gut.

I sort of get what they're going for but Mikail needs to change the style, she can't do linework to save her life and she also has no clear aesthetic. Slapping a muffin top on one of her rail thin character designs sounds like a visual nightmare. I think one of the main problems with her art style is that she prioritizes making characters looks like pretty barbie dolls over giving them proper flexible proportions. So when characters need to inevitably do something or express something that isn't in their wheelhouse, it comes out stiff and awkward. This is especially apparent when she tries to do goofy facial expressions like this, she'll stretch the mouth and not change the face, so you get these pointy vogue esque faces with these uncanny giant mouths and weird eyes.

Neither one of these two will ever take genuine criticism of this art in good faith, I think they'd only change this if someone like Ren, or an artist they respect told them it looked fuck awful. But that runs the risk of being exiled from the discord so here we are.

One of these days we should remake a comic page and make it look good.
 
I think one of the main problems with her art style is that she prioritizes making characters looks like pretty barbie dolls over giving them proper flexible proportions.
That's the wife's influence shining through.
 
Spoilering powerlevel a bit.

That's not a muffintop. A muffintop wraps around the waist with a bit of extra flab. That's a gut. That's a beer gut just like what you would find on a fat dude. And very single overweight woman with a gut I've seen and/or fucked didn't let their gut hang over their pants like that because it's not something women really show off. The fupa almost always gets tucked unless the pants/skirt/Walmartian bikini is too tight/small to allow it, usually from a woman who thinks she's more conventionally attractive than she is, or someone like a kid who doesn't own that many clothes to begin with. This isn't that. The tummy-poking pic 100% convinces me that this is a fetish thing.
 
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Courtney’s having a hard time and has officially stated that Lily is dead to her.

She’s thread reading since the post she’s referring too was deleted by Lily moments after she posted and I grabbed it.

All the best. Hope you can find a more positive outlet for this rage. Maybe try that axe throwing place up in Dartmouth ? Lots of people do that thing for fun and for getting their feelings sorted.

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A reminder for anyone who goes after her fans thinking they just don't know how horrible she is and need to be told. It's not going to work. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Let them see Lily for what she is on their own terms.
 
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The Blood Elves do not worship a Goddess of Light, even if you could argue that they still Worshiped Elune (They don't, they tended to not be very Orthodox even before getting kicked out of the Night Elven Society) Elune is not a Light Goddess.
My guess is she's referring to when the sunwell's energy was placed inside a human woman for a comic with Kalecgos? Even then the woman herself is not the sunwell she was just used to store the magic or something, and I highly doubt there was ever mention of that event in the game.

Other than that my only thought is that Lily can't fathom worshipping anything other than a woman and therefore the high elves must worship a sun goddess instead of just.. you know.. the literal sun itself.
 
My guess is she's referring to when the sunwell's energy was placed inside a human woman for a comic with Kalecgos? Even then the woman herself is not the sunwell she was just used to store the magic or something, and I highly doubt there was ever mention of that event in the game.
That would be a...stretch and technically Aveena's version of the sunwell's Energy was pure arcane...it didn't become Divine(What Warcraft Defines as Arcane + Holy) until after she was sacrificed to flush Kil'jadeen back in BC and Velen used a Dead Naruu to re-power it.
 
funny that she mentions Tolkien because that sunny climates argument isn't used to discredit the presence of black people in the main locations of Middle Earth because it's not necessary, Tolkien was always pedantically descriptive about everything including what people look like and taking into account that he wrote the story of LOTR based on European mythology and folklore, it was obvious that the majority of the population would be light-skinned with the exception of people from the far south. No dark-skinned elves or dwarves.

the point is, in Tolkien's world his word must be respected, the same way no one would accept white people in stories based on African mythology, just ask how Lily would react if Bucky Barnes was the new Black Panther and people said "Wakanda is fictinal, get over it, there is white peple in Africa so it's fine"

and only racist when the culture represented is white

if you want to create your own skin color diversity in fantasy races just create your own world with your own rules, D&D never had this problem in particular, half-races and pure races can have any color. But they always go after Tolkien because he is famous and everyone likes his stories and they just want to piggyback on his success instead of being creative, just like the novelty that Lily has to offer is the same thing but with lesbians and one of them is black.
 
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This word of God post really stands out to me for a number of reasons. Dana Terrace says these are only head-canons because she legally does not own the show. Disney does, and if Disney were to ever decide to produce more Owl House content they can just do it with no consent or approval from her. As soon as they are no longer part of the production staff, the creator themselves is reduced to little more than just another fan with head-canons and fanfiction ideas. They might carry more weight since they are ideas from the head of someone responsible for creating the property in the first place, but has to technically remain outside the realm of canon.

There's also Lily's classic insistence on characters listing off all their adjectives whenever they have the chance so the audience has no way to deny or forget their labels. Like, yes it would take ten seconds for Willow to state she's pan in the show, but I would like Lily to dig through every single solitary second where Willow is onscreen and tell me if any of those moments seem like appropriate times for her to announce her sexuality to everyone unprompted. Especially since the show is pretty show don't tell with its approach. IE, Raine is non-binary but no one in the show ever describes them in this exact phrasing for the audience. The only time a sexuality is even mentioned is the whole 'Hi, I'm Bi" bit, which frankly felt much more like a 'what's Disney gonne do? Cancel us some more?' kind of thing than anything else. Maybe it was a consolidated moment from a whole episode planned about sexuality and Luz describing all these pride flags to her witch friends who then get the chance to pick ones they feel describe them best. We'll never know.

I know it's a meme to make fun of this kind of stuff, like gay Dumbledore, but sometimes that's really the only natural way to do it. I dunno, I'm not a Potterhead--Is there any point in time where it would've made sense for Dumble to tell his students he likes sucking cock? Let me know! What Lily does is actually worse than that. There's nothing to my knowledge that ever disproved gay Dumbledore. Like, yeah, he totally could have been, it just wasn't stated in the text anywhere because people don't just talk about their sexuality all the time. Two characters being in a hetero relationship doesn't make it impossible for either of them to be LGBT (it's why I think the whole 'ew hetero' schtick is gross but I digress). Bi people date the opposite sex all the time. It's kind of implied by the whole 'Bi' thing. What Lily does is retcon things outright. Things that were never the case before now suddenly are, usually due to some pushback she's getting from the latest chapter. At worst, the former is just pandering to a certain subset of people craving representation in media and take any scraps they can get. At worst, the latter is someone desperate to cover their tracks because they let their weird kinks bleed through and the normies noticed.
 
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I know it's a meme to make fun of this kind of stuff, like gay Dumbledore, but sometimes that's really the only natural way to do it. I dunno, I'm not a Potterhead--Is there any point in time where it would've made sense for Dumble to tell his students he likes sucking cock?

Shockingly, there is no opportunity for the 150-year old wise mentor to tell his 11-15 year old student that he loves boning men.

I also feel like I'm the only person on the planet who noticed this (and noticed it before Gay Dumbledore, so my read wasn't tainted), but in the seventh book we're introduced to Elphias Doge, one of Dumbledore's childhood friends, who clearly was in love with Dumbledore. It's never explicitly stated in the text but the way Elphias talks about him and the way other talk about Elphias it's obvious that he had an unrequited crush. But he (also 150 years old) doesn't walk up to a boy who's barely 17 and start reminiscing about how much he wanted to bang Dumbledore, either.

And yeah, it's because normal people don't talk about their sexuality constantly.

All that said I don't really disagree with Lily's point... entirely. Dumbledore is Gay led to the current trend of creators arbitrarily attributing identity points to their characters after the fact in order to drum up more interest or controversy and it's pretty scummy. I don't think that's the case with The Owl House, Dana seems pretty genuine with her representation and TOH certainly doesn't need the attention bump so soon after airing its finale, but I've seen too many instances of creators just shrugging and going 'oh yeah they're totally gay' despite zero evidence within the work just to drum up some hashtag campaigns.

(Notably, this was not the case for Dumbledore is Gay. When Rowling made that announcement -- which was only a month or two after Deathly Hallows was released -- it was made while the books were still the hottest thing on the planet, there was no cultural demand for More Representation, and it wasn't in vogue to make every other character some flavor of gay. Dumbledore is Gay actually was a stunning and brave reveal that was viewed in a largely positive light, as it canonized a well-respected and beloved character as being gay without having it overwhelm their identity. It's viewed with derision now because Rowling has since made some... questionable... Twitter revisions to the novels and others have jumped on the bandwagon, but at the time it was met with a great deal of praise. It's only been in the following years, when it's become common for people on social media to express how interesting they are by telling strangers that they like fucking boys AND girls, that is was met with demands for her to have put it in the text because 'she's writing the books she can do whatever she wants'. Which is not how storytelling for an audience works, by the way. The romantic subplots in these books are bad enough, I don't need to learn the romantic entanglements of everybody in Ravenclaw tower or whatever.)


So first of all this isn't how the meme works, good job Lily.

Second is that you, as a completely independent creator who can literally do anything with what you're writing and have no obligation to the corporation that is funding your production, you have ZERO excuse not to put all this shit in your story. Given that you don't care about things like storytelling or continuity there is even LESS reason to not dedicate strips to talking about all the bullshit you have in the background.

Third, the things these creators can't put into their works are things like 'discussing pansexuality in an action-adventure show aimed toward pre-teens'. The things Lily doesn't put into her work are vital background information and entire storylines, and then she gets annoyed when people are confused because they don't religiously read her often self-contradictory wiki or the impossible-to-search Tumblr clarifications.

The fact that Lily doesn't put this information into her webcomic is demonstrably and substantially worse than ANY showrunner or author she's complained about.
 
I know it's a meme to make fun of this kind of stuff, like gay Dumbledore, but sometimes that's really the only natural way to do it. I dunno, I'm not a Potterhead--Is there any point in time where it would've made sense for Dumble to tell his students he likes sucking cock? Let me know!
Technically kind of?

Like, in Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, we get a lot more in depth discussion on his backstory and his relationship with Grindlewald, who Rowling revealed with the gay reveal was Dumbledore's lover (I think? I honestly have a hard time remembering the final two books because she packs a lot of information into them), and how badly said relationship turned out with the whole dead sister and world war stuff. It's all about fully revealing how human Dumbledore is, breaking down how Harry perceives him, how even he fell prey to tragedy for reasons he's not proud of. In Deathly Hallows specifically we even have, again I think, one of the newspapers spilling all of Dumbledore's secrets in a tell-all book to discredit him after his death. So yeah, there was plenty of opportunity to naturally have characters mention that Dumbledore's relationship with Grindlewald was romantic.
 
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Lily's been fairly well behaved no more mentions of her cancer.

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The cycle is complete. Harmony and Miranda are now scum and were never worth any of Lily's time.
Unfortunately no one told Harmony she's not allowed to keep walking and breathing after Lily disowns them so she keeps giving people Lily snaps at comfort. Typical scum.
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The rest is bog standard Lily-isms.
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I'll just drop the rest as archives. It's nothing new just more of Lily spitting out death threats.
 
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