Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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haven't read her star wars fanfic (it's like 300000 words and I don't hate myself that much ) but i wouldn't be surprised. she loves mary sues and terrible characters.

lets be fair here, the sw fanfic is 10x better than this, and niva cant hold a candle to aliana

at least aliana, like, fucking cares. she becomes the ruler of an empire and takes measures to try to stop exploitation. yeah she brainwashed a bunch of people to jump off a balcony but shit, at least she was doing something. you could even argue that rey being a suicidal doormat isnt her fault, its the creator/writer of the world

lily just keeps getting worse and worse. you could even say that poke madhouse had some things going for it. now this is just a nothingburger

Basically, it is easier to be cruel & hateful towards someone you have made up a story of abuse about than give them benefit of the doubt. I genuinely want to apologize to Lily Orchard on stream for working with her stalkers. None of them want good things, just harm.

yeah poppy go align with people you yourself consider abusive, thatll help

fucking pathetic piece of shit

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He writes sibling affection like puppy dog love.
"I cherish you soo much"
"I cherish you more!"
"Noo I cherish you infinity!"
It's very transparent. He's a sperg who doesn't understand how affection is typically expressed, so he accidentally reveals his ass with moments like this.
It really feels like she thinks that kind of sibling affection (that only exists in fiction) is normal and not her very obvious fetish
 
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None of us here are even saying it's inherently wrong to be affectionate with your sibling, it's just there's a stark lack of boundaries set between the two that is not normal. Unless the two were severely traumatized and can only seek comfort in each other I find it incredibly unrealistic that the two are that overtly affectionate so as to sleep in the same bed as each other as grown women. It's doubly so that in-universe other characters notice their affection as romantic in nature. I thought we were all about normalizing affectionate siblings without it being weird and you made it weird, great job.

I've said this several times but just the fact neither character has agency outside of each other that bugs me. When I think of other media with well-written siblings typically they're close but still maintain relationships with other people. That's an absurdly easy way to deny the incest, giving a character more people to be close with.

And moreover, it's just not realistic. Even the most close siblings fight over petty nonsense. If we can't even get along with our parents every second of every day, a sibling who eats gross or has shit taste in music or stole your socks is definitely not going to cut it either. Wholesome relationships still clash and argue and bicker about really pointless crap. If you live with someone for so long, inevitably you're going to get annoyed by some of their habits and vice versa. This is why parents warn you that living with your best friend may not be as pleasant as it sounds.

I guess it's easy to sidestep that if you don't give characters flaws that actually hinder them rather than enable them.
 
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None of us here are even saying it's inherently wrong to be affectionate with your sibling, it's just there's a stark lack of boundaries set between the two that is not normal.
the thing that bothered me the most about that trope list is that she went out of the way to keep anyone from shipping the sisters with someone else

why???? why not let your fans ship??? you dont need to write romance if you dont want to, but why is it that important to you that no one else does????

this kind of shit is why people psychoanalize you through your fucking characters, you clearly have some bizarre stake on them that means a lot to you

No Antagonist - The story is about Niva's self-determination, and there is little in the way of antagonists. Most of the enemies Niva faces are holdovers from Avatar Korra's days or natural disasters. The Red Lotus only exists to be massacred by an angry and grief-stricken Niva to make a point about how they're relics who only persist because the world is too rich and happy to feel threatened by anarchists.
Lily those are antagonists. even if they are a holdover from the past, theyre still antagonists. i fucking get it, you have a compulsory need to make boring stories with no conflict, but having antagonists isnt a bad thing

Remember when Aang completely wrote off fire bending for two seasons because the realization of how easily he could lose control and hurt people terrified him?
im upset at how the spiritual values of bending are lost in this reinterpretation

earthbending isnt supposed to be easy, its supposed to take effort and dedication. you cant just move tons of rock because you happen to be angry or something

but niva doesnt even want to earthbend at all, she only goes to class because thats what her sister wants. she has no motivation to keep it under control, or to learn to do something useful for her village, she has no interest in the philosophical side

does niva actually learn new things from her teachers? what does she learn? how does she grow as a person? eh who cares, the important part is the incest
 
AM I GOING CRAZY??? AM I LOSING MY FUCKING MIND???? AM I THE ONE WHO NOTICED THIS??? THIS ISNT CANON INSIDE LILY'S OWN CONTINUITY OH MY FUCKING GOD

While I absolutely believe that Lily would've just plain forgotten about this in regards to Niva (since she was just using it as a vehicle for how much the sisters care about each other), I'd also attribute this to the fact that Mikaila pretty much draws one face.

yeah, the fact she is looking up threads about her and responding to them directly on tumblr is so fucking weird. has she even done this before?

So has addressed thread complaints via her inbox before, although I attributed that to a well-meaning (but misguided) lurker trying to pass on legitimate criticism just to see how Lily would react.

I didn't have reason to believe she was actually thread lurking and sending herself Asks at the time, but I'm pretty sure that's exactly what she's doing now. You can tell the difference because the prior questions would always be met with her telling people to shut up or drink bleach, whereas with this set she's actually taking quite a lot of time to respond. She would never do that with an organic Ask.
 
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Maybe this is me, but I just find weird as fuck to have a sister who you claim wanted to have a incestuous relationship with you, that you insist is obssesed with you, so much that she raped you when you were children, that she did this for at least a year, multiple times... and you complain about she fighting with her friends when she is 13.
The famous age in which teenagers everywhere are known to have a poor grasp of their emotions as it is and therefore to be prone to fight among peers and parents.
The literal most normal thing for any teenager to live through.
When Courtney talks about baby Liliana, she talks about crazy shit like shooters manifesto, hiding knives on the wall and printing pokemon porn at school. Stuff that would be concerning no matter who we're talking about.
When Liliana brings up Courtney, she only has that rape, being kidnapped by a pedophile (and that reflects badly on Courtney somehow) and normal things that literally anyone living with teenagers already knows about.
 
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Bro, abusive incest is just like family guy fr fr.

It might just be the angle but young Jerry looks smaller and less mature than Courtney, despite being a year older than her.
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Am I wrong? His head is bigger and his arms are shorter. And he somehow has tits????

They have to stop with this woe is me shit, it's not supposed to be part of your brand that you were molested as a kid, don't associate your wife's cutesy art with that, what the fuck is wrong with you?
 
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yeah, the fact she is looking up threads about her and responding to them directly on tumblr is so fucking weird. has she even done this before?
Constantly.
He writes sibling affection like puppy dog love.
"I cherish you soo much"
"I cherish you more!"
"Noo I cherish you infinity!"
It's very transparent. He's a sperg who doesn't understand how affection is typically expressed, so he accidentally reveals his ass with moments like this.
It's pretty clear we're dealing with a person who has no idea what "love" and "affection" are even supposed to look like. At first glance you might start to feel sympathetic, he grew up in an abusive household and his perspective is so damaged he can't imagine people arguing and still loving each other...but that's not how abuse victims think, at least not usually. If you grow up in an abusive family that starts being normal, and you expect all love to be conditional. Jerry does the opposite, and demands that any affection, family or otherwise has to be unconditional and perfect at all times, where every second from first sight to last breath has to be spent thinking of how perfect the other target is. It's boring in writing, but worse, Jerry thinks this is how actual relationships in the real world operate.
 
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just how often do you guys make funny little video about your "abuser"/"rapist" that was not even animated by yourself but your fucking spouse with a family guy audio on top?

It might just be the angle but young Jerry looks smaller and less mature than Courtney, despite being a year older than her.

it might be that they are trying to make him look younger so people would feel pity for him (it's not even like jerry looked remotely close to this in his 14, or courtney had that much of bust in her 13, fucking pedos)............... but it also might be that MK can't draw face from that angle and just traced someone else's work. possibly from Eat Bang Kill cuz he tries desperately to copy it. or lizzy. wouldn't be the first time
 
just how often do you guys make funny little video about your "abuser"/"rapist" that was not even animated by yourself but your fucking spouse with a family guy audio on top?
It's telling that he always shows Courtney as more of a joke antagonist nuisance, like Squidward or Ice King. Not exactly how I'd portray someone who traumatically raped me as a child but hey I'm not a master writer like Jerry.
 
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this is absolutely disgusting omg. i have no fucking words. she is making quirky content of the person she fucking raped and trying to paint herself as the victim.

even in the subtle things like Courtney being drawn like a disney channel bully and wearing more revealing clothing compared to Lily who is completely covered and has messy hair.

is she trying to paint her as a popular ditzy slut on top of saying she was a drug addict or what?? this looks like something a 15 yo "I'm not like other girls" type would make. it's not the first time she sexualizes Courtney either, she said she was "horny posting" when she came forward about the abuse and also said she had a "brother complex".
sure, poor Lily had to put up with her 13 yo sister who she raped being a slightly annoying 13 yo.

this is such a weird and petty thing to complain and try to victimize herself with. the funniest part is that this probably didn't even happen. they were never close and Courtney sounded like she was terrified of Lily since they were like 10
 
Okay, pretend you're Mikaila for a sec. Your wife is being accused of rape by her sister and your wife counters it with an Uno reverse card and says that she had been abused.

Why would you draw her rapist in a shitpost?

More than once?

If I were in the position where my spouse's rapist came back into their life, I wouldn't be drawing the rapist like they're a cartoon villain for a YouTube shorts shitpost. If my spouse asked me to do this, I'd flat-out say no because that's a jarring and incredibly uncomfortable position to be in to be drawing your spouse's supposed abuser.

I get it, Mikaila has been Lilified so she has little morals but this is honestly just disgusting.

It's telling that he always shows Courtney as more of a joke antagonist nuisance, like Squidward or Ice King. Not exactly how I'd portray someone who traumatically raped me as a child but hey I'm not a master writer like Jerry.

It is a bit of a trauma response to essentially joke about your trauma, and by proxy your abuser, but that functions as masking it. It's a sort of "It wasn't that bad, I'm pretty well-adjusted!" reaction. Even then, the jokes are surface-deep and rarely truly delve into the thing that bothers them, and I don't exactly believe this is a coping mechanism for Lily given how she fully weaponizes her status as a traumatized Native autistic trans woman. She announces she was raped on a livestream in a panicked tone just to get one over on Courtney, and the distress in her voice is real but only because she's losing control of the narrative.

She wants it both ways, to paint Courtney as a stupid Disney channel villain where all of the decisions she made were all of karmic justice so nobody takes her seriously, and also to treat Courtney as some serious threat who would do all of these heinous things to her.

It's a little jarring that for all of Lily's self-victimizing she doesn't actually know how to play the victim.
 
Constantly.

It's pretty clear we're dealing with a person who has no idea what "love" and "affection" are even supposed to look like. At first glance you might start to feel sympathetic, he grew up in an abusive household and his perspective is so damaged he can't imagine people arguing and still loving each other...but that's not how abuse victims think, at least not usually. If you grow up in an abusive family that starts being normal, and you expect all love to be conditional. Jerry does the opposite, and demands that any affection, family or otherwise has to be unconditional and perfect at all times, where every second from first sight to last breath has to be spent thinking of how perfect the other target is. It's boring in writing, but worse, Jerry thinks this is how actual relationships in the real world operate.
There comes a point where you have to take responsibility for your own actions and behaviour. Lily has been removed from her abusers and the abusive setting for so long now that it's honestly pathetic how she wants to remain a victim.
 
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What's wrong with Catradora? Stories have unhealthy relationships all the time, that doesn't make them bad.


Framing.
Funnily enough, Catra and Adora are weirdly compelling on a narrative level. They have basically no mental health or ability to form healthy relationships because they're raised in a fascist death cult and trained from childhood to be soldiers first and people second.
So a lot of their interactions make sense under that framework. It makes sense that Catra is emotionally volatile, possessive, completely obsessed with Adora (her only actual friend in the Horde) and takes her departure so personally. It also makes sense that Adora is a attached and unwilling to actually let go of Catra despite how abusive she is because old habits and affections are difficult to get rid of. Especially after so little time spent apart.
But just because something makes sense doesn't mean it's good, because the show doesn't actually do anything with it. Their upbringing isn't touched on nearly as much as their relationship is, and the show goes to extreme lengths to say "These two are bad for each other. Them getting closer isn't something to be celebrated" and then...
It pairs them together in a way that's framed as a happy ending.
What?
The question ends up being why write them that way in the first place? Why set up a very obvious route for the characters and then... go in the exact opposite direction? The fandom jumping on board I get, I've covered before how fandom will forgive anything if the character is visually appealing enough for them and you don't get much more appealing to Tumblr/Twitter gays than "Angy Catgirl."
But the writers are what confuse me.
You don't write a character like Catra and write the unhealthy trauma bond Adora has with her if the abusive nature of the relationship isn't going to be your primary focus. They go as far as to have Adora have flashbacks to Catra's shitty behavior and go "What the fuck has my life been all this time?"
The series winds you up for the logical and obvious conclusion for a Battle of Heroes/Devil May Cry/Decay style final confrontation and then... goes the other way. Even when Catra is 'redeemed' you're just shown more examples as to why these two are just worse when they're around each other.
So it just ends up being confusing. Yeah I get why fandom loves this "Let's watch them get worse" schtick. What I don't get is how a writer sets all of this up, and doesn't end up going "Wait, hang on. I have a better idea" and follow their setup to its obvious conclusion.
Ultimately Adora and Catra ending up together shows someone who was on the path to get better and have a better support system being re-ensnared by a possessive stalker who was negging her right up to the kiss.
And that's... bleak. That's a very bleak outlook on life.
On my video on The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, someone left this comment trying to offer an alternative story that was more focused on the horror

And that is literally the plot of She Ra and the Princesses of Power.
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Is Wholesome Media Bad for You? Reaction | Lily Orchard Response Video with Anthony Gramuglia​

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We get a mention. 1:46:10 Crim is nervous of this thread. Crim you have nothing to fear. We stand with you sir. Keep being you.
 
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I don't know shit about She-Ra but I find the way she talks about it to be so fascinating.

Like in her world view her own transgressions and issues are excused by her trauma, but she can't fathom the idea that a toxic person might grow and move on from that? Be a better person?

It's like. It's a character that becomes a good guy at the very start and another character that takes a long time and a lot of fighting to get there, as I understand it.

Like does she just conceptualize herself as the inherently good one? And that other people can't be that?

Always fun to see the way her awful world views intersect with her awful character analysis.
 
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Starting off with Baldur's Gate III and then watching A Place Further than the Universe.
Also, I think the ads have been intrusive on a couple occasions. I'll see what I can do about that with a separate download I have and edit them in here later.
Merci Diable, :drink:

This is the bit of stream I dropped in on. It's all I watched, someone else can scrub through the rest if they want.

I couldn't stomach this one. I miss the dead air.

Her new crowd never shuts up. They won't last long Lily has to keep shooshing them all like some daycare worker.
This 8 minute clip runs the gambit. From uncomfortable flirting with Nooblord, who is not a sock account. Incest, and Lily's flashing. She insists she gave people proper warnings. Her "it's like.." autistic verbal cue makes it clear she has this sort of line pre-prepared.

One of her crowd makes a very good point, just make people pay for that shit. I agree, Lily.


One of Lily guest: Now I'm reminded why I don't watch anime at all....
Lily: This one is cute! It's about girls going on an adventure...and no bullshit.

Confirmed Sai. She does not know what she's watching is male autist bait. At all.
A person drops out, saying goodnight. Lily had to say something.
Lily: Remember the rest of the stream can HEAR YOU, so if you're all just like...making humming and mumbling sounds you really gotta knock that crap off.
:drink::drink::drink:ironic...isn't it.

ETA: Utena mentioned

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This might kick up a wasp's nest, but what is Utena ABOUT? I've heard people talk about it's themes, but what's the plot?

Utena is about a girl (Utena) who competes in a swordfighting contest unaware of the fact that the prize is a slave bride (Anthy). When she becomes aware of this she decides to pull an Aladdin gambit and win the contest in order to protect her.
If that sounds like a massive hypocrisy to you, that's because it is. The notion of "Princelike Nobility" is little more than self-serving narcissism and you can't become noble by winning a swordfighting competition. Especially when the "prize" is a slave.
That's not me editorializing, that's literally the plot.
The entire game is a trap created by Anthy's brother and Utena's desire to be noble in all of it just makes her a useful idiot. Anthy's brother is just trying to break open a coffin.
No not like that.
Actually no, EXACTLY like that.
Anyway that's the setup and everything else is the execution after that. It's one of those shows where your interpretation of it outside of the immediately obvious (Abuse, Gay, Swordfighting, ect) will depend on your level of political and cultural literacy.
I always interpreted it as being a show about how you can't dismantle oppressive systems with the tools that built it because those systems were designed to anticipate you, and how defining your merit under the terms of abusive patriarchal power structures is a fool's errand.
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I think that's a poor comparison because Utena was unaware of the stakes at first, and she has to be filled in on the situation as the series goes on.
In execution she actually rings closer to King Schultz, both in her intentions and the way her ego is ultimately self-sabotaging and directly exploited by the main antagonist.
It's interesting to say the least, but it's also very messy in its execution. But I think I prefer it that way.
I've always had mixed feelings on it. This isn't a change.
 
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Merci Diable, :drink:

This is the bit of stream I dropped in on. It's all I watched, someone else can scrub through the rest if they want.
That's my cue.
You did me a favor, the way these people flirt gives me secondhand embarrassment. It's like shit you say intentionally when you want people to think you're a desperate creep.
Belated 4th of July stream recap.

I do this because my roommates have stopped checking on me.

We begin with Baldur’s Gate 3, which Lily has to mod in infinite short rests to be comfortable playing.

Lolo starts ranting about adult men that don’t like shows for preschoolers, no one present responds. The fear that she is slowly turning into Lily is compounded by her pointing out that Mary Shelley's Frankenstein has incest in it.

Lily’s male gay awakening was her sixth grade teacher apparently, and the other one was Sora, both from around the same of age of 12 or 13.

Lily is somewhat resentful in this stream, and is constantly saying “Clear coms” to get people to shut up and stay on topic.
When asked “What’s the topic again” she replies “look at your screen” through gritted teeth.

While in an argument about if psychidelics are healthier than alcohol Lily says it’s giving her flashbacks to Courtney taking pcp. Courtney is called a junkie, methhead, and heroin addict throughout this stream. In the past Lily only said Courtney smoked too much weed, this is quite the escalation.

They hate Astarion with a passion cause he's vain and sassy and they'd probably love him if he was a girl.

Lily gets an ask saying “your wife is fucking other guys” and her response is “hot”.

When talking about dating sims, someone in VC admits to playing them, but says proudly "I've got three partners, I don't need digital sex!"

This happens
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We have a new Christmas themed vibe zone picture
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Apparently that’s Ren in the middle? Idk. Lily gathers a bunch of people to make art for Ren around Christmas time, and someone points out that she has archives of Ren’s and Ginger’s art.

If anyone is worried for Ren, don’t worry she’s taken.
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Lily’s constant showering her with gifts and praise is futile.

Mikay shows up, both drunk and high from a family party, and they watch A Place Further than the Universe. Spoiler alert, this show is hideously boring. It’s just girls being cute, that’s all. Not bad but not interesting.

Lily makes fun of the people criticizing them for taking Mikaila out of the youtube profile, Mikay is too drunk to care about any of Lily's drama.

Lily's mom apparently tells her she's too pale all the time, Lily rebuffs this by admitting she isn't full blooded cherokee.
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A random heartfelt clip from this anime hits Lily so hard she has to turn her mic off for 4 minutes, leaves drunk Mikay to fill in. The scene where a girl's abusive friends/family try reaching out to her hits a chord with Lily because Courtney reached out over deviantart I guess.

Nothing else happens besides Lily complaining about fansubs/dubs.
All time highlight Mikay is so fucked up during this stream she laughs for damn near a minute at a bad off the cuff joke.

I can't tell if the laugh is fake or if she really is just that unfortunately monotone.
 
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