Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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Lily is a leftist who really comes across as a conservative. Let's look at the facts:
- Attacks other female content creators. Really seems to hate other females in general
- Any media that is "problematic" gets the stick
- Extremely insular and lacks the ability to get along with people with differing views (I know liberals also have this problem, but go with me on this for now)
- Creates weirdly sexual content while outwardly being a prude

It's bizarre, but unfortunately nothing new.
Well, just as a note, he's not outwardly a prude. In fact, he's very open about how lewd he likes to be.

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Aside from that though, he follows the conservative playbook to a T, he's more conservative, I'm willing to bet, than anyone on this thread LOL

Then again it could just be horseshoe theory. If anything, Jerry is a stellar example of its existence and validity.
 
Well, just as a note, he's not outwardly a prude. In fact, he's very open about how lewd he likes to be.

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Aside from that though, he follows the conservative playbook to a T, he's more conservative, I'm willing to bet, than anyone on this thread LOL

Then again it could just be horseshoe theory. If anything, Jerry is a stellar example of its existence and validity.
Oh I must have blocked that out for my sanity's sake.
 
Y'know the funny thing about this is that I'm a lefty myself and Jerry and I tend to agree on a lot of things politically, and other things socially. That's why I haven't found myself criticizing his actual social or political views as of late, and focusing on his media takes and his pedophilia.
That's a good point, because despite how our detractors would like to criticize us, as shown by the presence of the TES and TDS threads, there's a lot of ideological variety on the farms.

Find a new reason to strawman us, Lily. ;)
 
That's a good point, because despite how our detractors would like to criticize us, as shown by the presence of the TES and TDS threads, there's a lot of ideological variety on the farms.

Find a new reason to strawman us, Lily. ;)
I'm sure he's kinda already realized it's pointless to say all of his detractors are Nazis and evil Conservatives since Gamerghazi and every left-wing media critic that's cared to acknowledge him have expressed their very low opinions of him, to say nothing of the tantrum he and his base threw (AND APPARENTLY ARE STILL THROWING) when Sarah Z criticized his Steven Universe video. Dunno about you but that's not a community I'd be caught dead within 100 feet of.

Almost as if everyone who doesn't like him has a good reason not to like him. Eh?
 
I think the best label for Lily's ideology is 'self-serving narcissistic asshole'.

Any other mantle she claims to wear is purely because she feels it benefits her in the moment. Remember, she stopped 'being a transphobe' (to whatever degree that was) not because of a moment of self-reflection but because it didn't benefit her. And it benefits her to wear id-pol labels and try to smear anybody who isn't 'ideologically pure' (according to her) as being either an alt-right Nazi or a shit-lib who is actually an alt-right Nazi.
 
Lily is currently playing bloodborne live, and croaking every 3 seconds. If you enjoy the souls games I suggest you skip this one.

(edit :stream went down) new stream

"kingdom hearts has difficulty settings which makes it a real game" already in for a bang up stream.
I'll leave archiving it to the devil guy.

Also before she started playing she had time for more Lizzy complaining.
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Lily is currently playing bloodborne live, and croaking every 3 seconds. If you enjoy the souls games I suggest you skip this one.

"kingdom hearts has difficulty settings which makes it a real game" already in for a bang up stream.
I'll leave archiving it to the devil guy.

Also before she started playing she had time for more Lizzy complaining.
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From Software games are muchtoo slow for her. I saw once somone mentioned bloodborne, as it’s faster cousin and she called it “boring”
“Real games have difficulties like Kingdom Hearts.” 😂

Pro tip: when Japanese game have no difficulty set its usually set on Japanese Normal which is American hard. Or in Lily’s limited terminology “ proud mode”
 
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Lily doesn't owe anything to the fans, but the fans have to pay to be in her presence and listen to her opinions.
you know that you make content for your fans who pay for it since you don't advertise, right?

and when did creators have big problems with treating their fans with respect and kindness to the point of becoming toxic?
most do not just vilify their fans by saying that they are the cause of their anxiety, the reason for canceling projects because they show too much interest, gaslighting them to serve as their scapegoat and they definitely do not say that fans are worse than Nazis who send death threats.

not being friends with your fans does not mean you can treating them like garbage just because you have no control over them, and also I think a bigger problem is demand NSFW art from your fans as a form of payment
 
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Lily is currently playing bloodborne live, and croaking every 3 seconds. If you enjoy the souls games I suggest you skip this one.

(edit :stream went down) new stream

"kingdom hearts has difficulty settings which makes it a real game" already in for a bang up stream.
I'll leave archiving it to the devil guy.

Also before she started playing she had time for more Lizzy complaining.
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Already under control. Looks to be a very slow (or short) stream. :hah:
Though, really, if anyone catches a stream and is able to record it, by all means do so, just in case I'm not around.

Oh, and remember, Lizzy is the obsessed, grudging one. :smug:
 
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Lily doesn't owe anything to the fans, but the fans have to pay to be in her presence and listen to her opinions.
you know that you make content for your fans who pay for it since you don't advertise, right?

and when did creators have big problems with treating their fans with respect and kindness to the point of becoming toxic?
most do not just vilify their fans by saying that they are the cause of their anxiety, the reason for canceling projects because they show too much interest, gaslighting them to serve as their scapegoat and they definitely do not say that fans are worse than Nazis who send death threats.

not being friends with your fans does not mean you can treating them like garbage just because you have no control over them, and also I think a bigger problem is demand NSFW art from your fans as a form of payment
FFS. There is a difference between not owing your fans friendship and verbally abusing them at every possible opportunity. Lilly has an army of 17 year-olds at her behest whom she regularly berates for the crimes of politely asking her a question or drawing fanart of her the wrong way or acknowledging the wrong television shows in her presence. It's like they all have mass Stockholm syndrome.
 
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Lily doesn't owe anything to the fans, but the fans have to pay to be in her presence and listen to her opinions.
you know that you make content for your fans who pay for it since you don't advertise, right?

and when did creators have big problems with treating their fans with respect and kindness to the point of becoming toxic?
most do not just vilify their fans by saying that they are the cause of their anxiety, the reason for canceling projects because they show too much interest, gaslighting them to serve as their scapegoat and they definitely do not say that fans are worse than Nazis who send death threats.

not being friends with your fans does not mean you can treating them like garbage just because you have no control over them, and also I think a bigger problem is demand NSFW art from your fans as a form of payment
Oooh! The site's bookmarks feature serves its purpose!

So, yeah. There's being professional. And then there's being Jerry.

It's fine not to be friends with your fans and act "professionally" around them (ADoseOfBuckley is a stellar example of this, and a MUCH better Jerry than Jerry is lol), but heck, you shouldn't treat them like dirt. Being "professional" doesn't give you an excuse to be an asshole to the people who actively support you.

And come on, Jerry's not even "professional" to begin with. The way Jerry treats his fans? His opinions of them? Let's take a look:

(By the way some of these don't have links cus the idiots in the earlier pages forgot to archive them, thanks a lot)

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"If someone leaves negative feedback on someone else's content, I'll scream at them on Discord until they cry"
Here's a rather important fun fact, by the way: Jerry berates Josh in this post and in many others for not reining in his fans and "allowing them to harass people", but when Josh allegedly does try to rein in his fans to prevent them from attacking people, Jerry treats it like a bad thing. Not only is that a double standard Jerry has about reining in fans and making sure they don't attack other people (as seen above), and not only is that a double standard about using the testimony of former friends/fans without due skepticism, if you're gonna berate him for doing that to a fan given that you've done this above, then that's a double standard about how to treat your fans in the first place as well.

For the sake of brevity, here are the basic points,
Don't berate someone for:
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trying to rein in their fans while you are actively scorning them for allegedly not doing that (above).
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taking 3rd party testimony from someone, if you take 3rd party testimony about someone you don't like.
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mistreating their fans if you mistreat yours (this entire post).


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Jerry actively ghettoizes and alienates his viewers

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"My viewers are legendarily thick because they ask questions and want to keep up with the stream at the same time, this bugged me so much I yelled at them"

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"Don't you think you're being a bit too hard on them?"
"Go fucking choke yourself."

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"So I hear you're bored and/or depressed, here's something I think you might like"
"GO FUCK YOURSELF ASSHOLE"

(Like I said earlier, there's being professional, and then there's just being a straight up ass. If you were professional with your viewers, you wouldn't lash out at them if they gave you a simple recommendation, you'd either say "thanks", "no thanks", or you'd ignore them.)

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"Fans who just ask me for advice are worse than my deranged neo-nazi hatestalkers who totally want me dead. They give me so much stress."

Bonus to the previous one:
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"What? Stress is the reason I might get a heart attack? Wait, what was the source of that stress again?"

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"You know? My fans annoy me more than neo-nazi alt-right hatestalkers who totally want me dead."


Jerry mistreats his fans every chance he gets, as if belittling them is some kind of ego boost. This isn't "being professional". You can certainly make a point about a content creator not owing anything to their viewers on a personal level, but you can't make an excuse for being a toxic asshole. And like I said before, you can't use it as an excuse to be a shitbag to people, especially when it doesn't even apply.

"But nah. This isn't abnormal or abusive! This is just "being professional", and thinking this is disgusting or wrong is just an "alt-right hate boner" in action! Lily is just going through a hard time! She's not mean! She can change!"

...like, isn't that logic that abuse victims would use? Lol
 
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"Capture and Mind Control" I knew that excerpt of Anduin acting slimy wasn't for nothing. She's going to legitimately write him like that into her version of Warcraft "cannon"

Also more "Don't use the word queer, you self deprecator. You have to use specifics to describe yourself or else I get offended, even though it literally doesn't affect me at all."
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"Capture and Mind Control" I knew that excerpt of Anduin acting slimy wasn't for nothing. She's going to legitimately write him like that into her version of Warcraft "cannon"

Also more "Don't use the word queer, you self deprecator. You have to use specifics to describe yourself or else I get offended, even though it literally doesn't affect me at all."
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Fucking. Gross. So she's going to write it as an actual allegory for rape (or refer to it literally being rape). Because Anevay has to share even more perceived traits with Sylvanas and Lily herself.
Also, obvious bait is obvious. She posts this stuff with the clear intent on talking about it at some point. She'll probably wait until someone asks, or more likely will inevitably send herself asks like she's done in the past to explain this shit. If you want to talk about it, talk about it. If you don't, don't fucking share it.

Every time she talks about the use of "Queer" all I can think is how much I appreciate that she's literally the only person with this take, despite the fact that she claims the majority of people share her opinion. Because it's a dumb fucking take. People have and will continue to tear it down which I will always appreciate.
I just seriously fucking hate her stupid opinions
 
didnt lily literally say to never write rape, like, ever in her 100 writing tips?

i know she then, later on, said 'lol most of them were just sarcastic jokes to piss people off' but every self respecting writer never writes rape into their stories unless they have a 100% good enough reason to add it, even then if you're not careful and thoughtful about it, whilst being as respectable as possible, it'll come off as crude and fuck you for writing rape when this drama could have happened any other way than writing clear rape fantasy. Its a delicate as hell subject, if not treated with the utmost respectfully. Its one of the worst things to happen to a person so why just use it as a plot device because your a shity writer who doesnt know how to write any other drama?

But lily treats rape like something 'some people go through, i guess'. mainly the rape of children.

Out of all the common writing tropes and subjects lily writes about, rape is probably one of the most common... this is kinda worrying considering her stash of revenge porn on her ex she has, how she goes after vunerable people and pretty much all of her fanfics.
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Fucking. Gross. So she's going to write it as an actual allegory for rape (or refer to it literally being rape). Because Anevay has to share even more perceived traits with Sylvanas and Lily herself.
she already has written an allegory for ape tho. the mating bond in her pokemad house comic.

gardevoir mind bonded with lily when she was 14- an act in this cannon that both parties need to consent too first.
the benefits of the mating bond is so that gardevoir can live longer up until whenever lily dies (ortells gardevoir to fuck off an break the bond), basically using lily's body for her personal gain

If someone doesnt consent to something, thats a huge invasion of privacy and imagine someone using your body for their personal gain- sounds like a rape allegory to me
 
Already under control. Looks to be a very slow (or short) stream. :hah:
Though, really, if anyone catches a stream and is able to record it, by all means do so, just in case I'm not around.

Oh, and remember, Lizzy is the obsessed, grudging one. :smug:
Here's the whole shebang.

I'm sure he's kinda already realized it's pointless to say all of his detractors are Nazis and evil Conservatives since Gamerghazi and every left-wing media critic that's cared to acknowledge him have expressed their very low opinions of him, to say nothing of the tantrum he and his base threw (AND APPARENTLY ARE STILL THROWING) when Sarah Z criticized his Steven Universe video. Dunno about you but that's not a community I'd be caught dead within 100 feet of.

Almost as if everyone who doesn't like him has a good reason not to like him. Eh?
Really, if all he did was spout out unpopular cartoon opinions and his political views, we likely wouldn't even have this thread. Or, at least, it wouldn't be nearly this long or active.
 
Oooh! The site's bookmarks feature serves its purpose!

So, yeah. There's being professional. And then there's being Jerry.

It's fine not to be friends with your fans (ADoseOfBuckley is a stellar example of this, and a MUCH better Jerry than Jerry is lol), but heck, you shouldn't treat them like dirt. Being "professional" doesn't give you an excuse to be an asshole to the people who actively support you.

And come on, Jerry's not even "professional" to begin with. The way Jerry treats his fans? His opinions of them? Let's take a look:

(By the way some of these don't have links cus the idiots in the earlier pages forgot to archive them, thanks a lot)

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"If someone leaves negative feedback on someone else's content, I'll scream at them on Discord until they cry"
Here's a rather important fun fact, by the way: Jerry berates Josh in this post and in many others for not reining in his fans and "allowing them to harass people", but when Josh allegedly does try to rein in his fans to prevent them from attacking people, Jerry treats it like a bad thing. Not only is that a double standard Jerry has about reining in fans and making sure they don't attack other people (as seen above), and not only is that a double standard about using the testimony of former friends/fans without due skepticism, if you're gonna berate him for doing that to a fan given that you've done this above, then that's a double standard about how to treat your fans in the first place as well.

For the sake of brevity, here are the basic points,
Don't berate someone for:
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trying to rein in their fans while you are actively scorning them for allegedly not doing that (above).
-
taking 3rd party testimony from someone, if you take 3rd party testimony about someone you don't like.
-
mistreating their fans if you mistreat yours (this entire post).


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Jerry actively ghettoizes and alienates his viewers

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"My viewers are legendarily thick because they ask questions and want to keep up with the stream at the same time, this bugged me so much I yelled at them"

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"Don't you think you're being a bit too hard on them?"
"Go fucking choke yourself."

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"So I hear you're bored and/or depressed, here's something I think you might like"
"GO FUCK YOURSELF ASSHOLE"

(Like I said earlier, there's being professional, and then there's just being a straight up ass. If you were professional with your viewers, you wouldn't lash out at them if they gave you a simple recommendation, you'd either say "thanks", "no thanks", or you'd ignore them.)

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"Fans who just ask me for advice are worse than my deranged neo-nazi hatestalkers who totally want me dead. They give me so much stress."

Bonus to the previous one:
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"What? Stress is the reason I might get a heart attack? Wait, what was the source of that stress again?"

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"You know? My fans annoy me more than neo-nazi alt-right hatestalkers who totally want me dead."


Jerry mistreats his fans every chance he gets, as if belittling them is some kind of ego boost. This isn't "being professional". You can certainly make a point about a content creator not owing anything to their viewers on a personal level, but you can't make an excuse for being a toxic asshole. And like I said before, you can't use it as an excuse to be a shitbag to people, especially when it doesn't even apply.

"But nah. This isn't abnormal or abusive! This is just "being professional", and thinking this is disgusting or wrong is just an "alt-right hate boner" in action! Lily is just going through a hard time! She's not mean! She can change!"

...like, isn't that logic that abuse victims would use? Lol
You're forgetting when he send his fans to attack Silver Quill's video
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“The reclamation of the q slur is recent.”

It’s older than you, Lily.

Earlier in the thread queercore was mentioned and that emerged in the 80s and 90s. Classes on queer studies were beginning to be offered at universities in the 90s. Queer Nation as a group began its political protests in the 90s.

This is just from light googling. Books and academic thesis's have been written on this.

She keeps bringing it up so I’ll keep bringing up a point too. Go to a Pride parade or an IRL meeting of LGBTQ people, Lily. She’d get schooled.

Semi related but her use of LGBTA is interesting. LGBTQIA tends to be the accepted acronym but obviously she wouldn’t use that, queer is bad. (Even though the Q can also mean questioning.)

Why no I for intersex though? Intersex inclusion is still a point of contention, but the arguments in favor boil down to intersex people being negatively impacted by homophobia and sexism as well.

But given that her only mention of intersex is Rainbow Dash—who’s a pedophile with an inability to control her hormones and talks about her penis constantly—she probably doesn’t include intersex people in her acronym use because she dislikes them.

She does include A for asexual though, and I’m willing to bet she started doing that when she started dating Mikaila.

It’s performative.
 
“The reclamation of the q slur is recent.”

It’s older than you, Lily.

Earlier in the thread queercore was mentioned and that emerged in the 80s and 90s. Classes on queer studies were beginning to be offered at universities in the 90s. Queer Nation as a group began its political protests in the 90s.

This is just from light googling. Books and academic thesis's have been written on this.

She keeps bringing it up so I’ll keep bringing up a point too. Go to a Pride parade or an IRL meeting of LGBTQ people, Lily. She’d get schooled.

Semi related but her use of LGBTA is interesting. LGBTQIA tends to be the accepted acronym but obviously she wouldn’t use that, queer is bad. (Even though the Q can also mean questioning.)

Why no I for intersex though? Intersex inclusion is still a point of contention, but the arguments in favor boil down to intersex people being negatively impacted by homophobia and sexism as well.

But given that her only mention of intersex is Rainbow Dash—who’s a pedophile with an inability to control her hormones and talks about her penis constantly—she probably doesn’t include intersex people in her acronym use because she dislikes them.

She does include A for asexual though, and I’m willing to bet she started doing that when she started dating Mikaila.

It’s performative.

as many people have probably said in this thread before, I'd love for her to look a queer activist from the 80s in the eye and tell them what she thinks about the word that their effort reclaimed.
 
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