Jin / Jin1515 / Matt Beard / RetroYote - Babyfur Cheating on his Wife Twilight Sparkle

[DykesDykesChina]

That's because MLP was written with little girls in mind. The entire land is bright and colorful because that appeals to little girls. The characters are stock and two-dimensional with one defining feature. The stories are simple and easy to digest. And it's really there to sell a product.

In other words, it's a show for children in every sense of the word.

The thing is, real children are able to understand stories far more complex and nuanced than that pony crap. The Moomin Family, Pippi Longstockings, Winnie the Pooh (the books, not the fuckin cartoon) -- there are lots of stories for the youngest among us which are fun and great to read; no need for any retarded pony product placement garbage.
In enjoy the Moomin Family books by Tove Jansson to this day, they were a childhood favorite of mine and I re-read them a few years ago and enjoyed them (but I was surprised at how short they seemed now!).

The thing about Bronies is not so much that they consume material intended for children, it's rather that they consume exceedingly dumb and commercial material aimed at children. When they begin talking to pony plushies and pretend to have a romantic relationship with them, it's then that things really get strange...

But it's not even that per se: People believing and even pretending to have relationship with fictional characters is an old hat. E. g. catholic monks and mystics very often displayed an affection for the Virgin Mary or some female saint that was very clearly romantic and even sexual in nature. Not hard to understand why and how: These people were officially not expected to have intimate relationships with women, so being madly in love with Saint Ursula or so was quite an obvious "release of steam". Of course, the monks would never openly admit to feeling sexual attraction to the saint or Mary, but it was unmistakably so: They would pray fervently to her several times a day and write hymns about her of a clearly sensual nature: Oh Santa Ursula, thou art sweet as the dew of early morning, thou bringest joys into the darkest of nights, from thee I take the sweet balsam of salvation...
It is an interesting fact about humans that they can feel as intensely (or maybe even more intense?) about a fictional character (whom they may arguably imagine to be real) as about a real-life human they know. People burst into tears when they see a sad movie -- in spite of it being wholly fictional and none of the events shown having actually taken place. We make the hero of a novel our friend and experience the entire spectrum of human emotion with him or her.

So Jin isn't so far-out crazy as it may seem! What makes him stand out are two things: Firstly, "pony-worship" is not socially accepted in our culture (...yet...). Secondly, said pony is a character from a show aimed at children, which makes the clearly sexual nature of that relationship ultra creepy. If Jin had choosen the Virgin Mary over Twilight, we'd just think of him as an extremely devout catholic. But since he fell madly in love with a purple cartoon pony, we raise our eyebrows and see him as a lolcow.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

What makes him stand out are two things: Firstly, "pony-worship" is not socially accepted in our culture (...yet...). Secondly, said pony is a character from a show aimed at children, which makes the clearly sexual nature of that relationship ultra creepy. If Jin had choosen the Virgin Mary over Twilight, we'd just think of him as an extremely devout catholic. But since he fell madly in love with a purple cartoon pony, we raise our eyebrows and see him as a lolcow.

Actually, no I don't think we would see him as being devout in that case and still see him as a freak. Modern Catholic laypeople don't have these kinds of feelings for the virgin or any other female saint. This is all coming from the monks. An argument could be made that Jin is living monastically but let's get real here, there's nothing monkish about him.

These monks have nothing to do but pray, study and take care of the abbey. They're also celibate and that's not natural. Men, as a whole, have a need for sex. You can bury this under devotions, you can partake in ritualistic bloodletting, you can wear uncomfortable clothes that keep your mind off the temptations of the flesh but it doesn't change the fact that those desires are still there. I'd be surprised if they didn't get all hot and bothered talking about a woman.

Spoiler: movie sperging

I'm reminded of the 1986 movie "The Name of the Rose" based on the book by Umberto Eco. Long story short, Sean Connery plays a papal detective trying to solve a murder in an abbey with a young Christian Slater as his pupil. At some point an old Monk played by William Hickey talks to young Christian about the Virgin Mary.

Ubertino da Casale: She's beautiful, is she not? When the female, by nature so perverse, becomes sublime by holiness, then she can be the noblest vehicle of grace.

Ubertino da Casale: (Speaking Latin) Beautiful are the breasts that protrude just a little.

The Virgin is holy but she's also a woman which makes it okay to admire her beauty and form because she's not going to tempt him into anything. And that's the key. Without temptation they can talk freely about an unattainable woman because even if she was there in front of them they wouldn't dare touch her because of her holiness.

Jin however "hears" Twilight's voice. That's mental illness. He's said that when he was on medication he couldn't hear her voice anymore and stopped taking it. He is seemingly able to have sex with other people. Okay they're men and I don't know if he's ever admitted to being gay or bi but that's not the point. He's able to do this but prefers rubbing up against a plush toy instead because it gives him everything he needs which is everything he wants. Twilight enjoys the same things he does, has the same interests, he even had a custom Centipede machine built "for her" even though he's admitted that it's his favorite game and can't go anywhere without it loaded on a 3DS or other portable system. With his plushie he doesn't have to deal with any of the fallout that can happen when you're with a real person. He doesn't have to deal with her being on her period, or them arguing over finances, or he wants to go somewhere but she wants to stay home. No, he has a perfect life because "she" always wants to do the same thing he does.

The man is sick and comparing him to a celibate monk is really stretching things.

 

[DykesDykesChina]

The man is sick and comparing him to a celibate monk is really stretching things.

Sure, it's not the same, it's a stretch -- my main point is though that via imagination, humans are able to develop strong emotions for a fictional character. In this respect, Jin isn't that bizarre -- at least not fundamentally more bizarre than a middle-aged housewive who is in love with some Twilight vampire. What IS bizarre is the extremes to which he takes it. Parading his plush waifu around in public pretty much shows that he either doesn't care what people think of him or isn't aware that everyone must consider him insane. He may or may not be psychotic, but there is certainly something very wrong with him socio-psychologically.

And yes, as Twilight exists in his imagination, he has a dream relationship: same hobbies, never any arguments, amazing sex, complete harmony.

Whether he really can acoustically hear her voice is up for debate. It may be wistful thinking or a story he made up to "justify" his love for that toy; or he may actually experience auditory hallucinations which may be a symptom of schizophrenia or psychosis -- we cannot know; at least until he starts talking about Twilight not agreeing with him anymore. If he ever writes something along the lines of: "Twi told me she doesn't love me anymore, she has decided to leave me", then we can conclude that there IS something seriously wrong with his brain, as it would show that the "Twilight entity" has taken on a "life" beyond the control of his active consciousness.

 

[LurkerTheLurker]

I agree that we, or at least I, would still see him as insane if it were a religious thing, but that's not your point, as you stated.

Her existence as it stands, where she's totally in agreement with him, still indicates something seriously wrong with his brain. His imagined entity is there to echo every single thing he says, to serve as a boost to his ego and help him feel loved and accepted despite how broken he is inside. I get what you're trying to say in that he's not fundamentally more bizarre than one of those Twilight vampire nuts, but I feel that's kind of irrelevant, or even that it goes without say. This whole thread has been drawing attention to and laughing at the extremes he's taken this to, and if you want to examine him psychologically, it's probably not so important to break it down completely to the fundamental structure of his psychosis when there are less evident, more interesting, and more hilarious aspects to look at. Also, simplifying it to a mere emotional attachment seems to miss the point; surely you see how this goes beyond mere emotional attachment and is far more an obsession that has manifested psychotic symptoms. It's a coping mechanism for depression, latching on to a colorful character he felt he could sympathize with the most, not a genuine devoutness to a faith of some sort, or to a really appealing fictional character like Twilight. There's very little that's genuine about it. It's a denial of reality.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Whether he really can acoustically hear her voice is up for debate. It may be wistful thinking or a story he made up to "justify" his love for that toy; or he may actually experience auditory hallucinations which may be a symptom of schizophrenia or psychosis -- we cannot know; at least until he starts talking about Twilight not agreeing with him anymore. If he ever writes something along the lines of: "Twi told me she doesn't love me anymore, she has decided to leave me", then we can conclude that there IS something seriously wrong with his brain, as it would show that the "Twilight entity" has taken on a "life" beyond the control of his active consciousness.

While I agree that he might be faking, I don't think he is. I mean it's one thing to say, "Twilight is my waifu" and have her as your desktop or have a dakimakura and say that nobody else can have her as their waifu because she's yours. It's another thing completely to go public, send an e-mail to everybody saying that she is your waifu and not only is she real but she doesn't like people making hentai images about her.

And then there's the whole medication makes her voice go away. I have a relative who is schizophrenic and she needs to take lots of meds that keep the voices at bay. She's not normal by any stretch of the word. But she says that when she's on her meds, there are no voices. So I'm pretty sure that Jin has some mental issues that may or may not be schizophrenia but they definitely point to mental issues of sorts.

 

[LurkerTheLurker]

I remember reading on RLPV once that Jin took hives medication, which caused Twilight's voice to stop. I know from experience that medication can disrupt psychotic symptoms. Everything of course points to her being a manifestation of psychosis. If she were actually there, medication that affects only Jin's mind wouldn't affect her. I don't know if I'd call it "schizophrenia" specifically, but it's something psychotic.

And he's definitely serious. I mean, he has countless sex tapes and God knows what else up on the internet where he sticks his dick in the plushie, which he has no problem sharing around... among other indicators that he means business. What sort of self-destructive troll would purposefully make themself look like one of the cringiest people on the planet? I mean, come on.

 

[creamyfanta]

The thing is, real children are able to understand stories far more complex and nuanced than that pony crap. The Moomin Family, Pippi Longstockings, Winnie the Pooh (the books, not the fuckin cartoon) -- there are lots of stories for the youngest among us which are fun and great to read; no need for any retarded pony product placement garbage.
In enjoy the Moomin Family books by Tove Jansson to this day, they were a childhood favorite of mine and I re-read them a few years ago and enjoyed them (but I was surprised at how short they seemed now!).

The thing about Bronies is not so much that they consume material intended for children, it's rather that they consume exceedingly dumb and commercial material aimed at children. When they begin talking to pony plushies and pretend to have a romantic relationship with them, it's then that things really get strange...

But it's not even that per se: People believing and even pretending to have relationship with fictional characters is an old hat. E. g. catholic monks and mystics very often displayed an affection for the Virgin Mary or some female saint that was very clearly romantic and even sexual in nature. Not hard to understand why and how: These people were officially not expected to have intimate relationships with women, so being madly in love with Saint Ursula or so was quite an obvious "release of steam". Of course, the monks would never openly admit to feeling sexual attraction to the saint or Mary, but it was unmistakably so: They would pray fervently to her several times a day and write hymns about her of a clearly sensual nature: Oh Santa Ursula, thou art sweet as the dew of early morning, thou bringest joys into the darkest of nights, from thee I take the sweet balsam of salvation...
It is an interesting fact about humans that they can feel as intensely (or maybe even more intense?) about a fictional character (whom they may arguably imagine to be real) as about a real-life human they know. People burst into tears when they see a sad movie -- in spite of it being wholly fictional and none of the events shown having actually taken place. We make the hero of a novel our friend and experience the entire spectrum of human emotion with him or her.

So Jin isn't so far-out crazy as it may seem! What makes him stand out are two things: Firstly, "pony-worship" is not socially accepted in our culture (...yet...). Secondly, said pony is a character from a show aimed at children, which makes the clearly sexual nature of that relationship ultra creepy. If Jin had choosen the Virgin Mary over Twilight, we'd just think of him as an extremely devout catholic. But since he fell madly in love with a purple cartoon pony, we raise our eyebrows and see him as a lolcow.

I love the Moomins!

MLP is incredibly boring and I find the animation pretty ugly and almost creepy. I can honestly see why it appeals to the spergs...it is awkward and a little bit gross looking (uncanny?), just like they are . Kinda like Invader Zim feel but with happy instead of weird.

 

[c-no]

I love the Moomins!

MLP is incredibly boring and I find the animation pretty ugly and almost creepy. I can honestly see why it appeals to the spergs...it is awkward and a little bit gross looking (uncanny?), just like they are . Kinda like Invader Zim feel but with happy instead of weird.

Well, considering awkward and gross, that can apply especially to Jin and his fetish over a pastel horse that he believes taste of ectasy and ambrosia (or whatever it was, nectar and sugar or what else).

 

[Hummingbird]

What's creepier about this is according to him:
Let that sink in for a moment.

He's licking and smelling a plushie. The same plushie that he rubs up against on a regular basis and to him, because her "soul" is in there it somehow turns into actual pony china.

That reminds me that he once paid someone to do a sexy photo shoot of his wifu as a present. (As well as he finds it sexy when she farts on him.) I can imagine the photographer just constantly tossed her against a wall and took pictures of where ever she landed.

 

[Xenophile]

That reminds me that he once paid someone to do a sexy photo shoot of his wifu as a present.

He paid for a raunchy professional photo shoot of his plush? That sounds hysterically amusing.

Somebody needs to find this thing and post it here. I'll have a look around for whatever I can find, but for now, here's something unrelated I discovered:

Spoiler

Apparently, his plush has mild anger issues. Who would've guessed?

 

[Hummingbird]

He paid for a raunchy professional photo shoot of his plush? That sounds hysterically amusing.

Somebody needs to find this thing and post it here. I'll have a look around for whatever I can find, but for now, here's something unrelated I discovered:

Spoiler

Apparently, his plush has mild anger issues. Who would've guessed?

Well, she is pretty much an extension of him to the point that she is a lot like him even if it's out of character (liking hardcore sex, being angry about trivial things, etc). BTW, which forum did you get that from?

Other than that, I can't help thinking of this song when I read Jin's stuff.

 

[LurkerTheLurker]

Three things.

Spoiler: Eww!

(As well as he finds it sexy when she farts on him)

One. Yaoi, TMI! Couldn't you have at least put that behind a spoiler tag?

Two. A photo-shoot of his plushie? If I were in his position, I'd be so utterly depressed that the only real, visual depiction of my supposedly beautiful wife could only come in the form of a plushie that she is unfortunately forced to inhabit, and having images of her plushie around probably wouldn't help me to cope with her imprisonment, nor her with her inability to move or communicate with others. But, you know, all of that is perfectly okay because... he's delusional and she's a sock puppet, and not even a semblance of reality can stand in the way of their love.

Three. I never came across that post where he flipped out about Flash Sentry. That's pretty funny. It's like he takes offense that his 'wife' was portrayed in this TV show liking this other stallion, as though he didn't have the real thing and she was somehow being taken away from him. Like he didn't believe his own bull-crap. Even funnier is that 'Twilight' actually rages about it, calling it a "defamation of character." How are we supposed to know that the true Twilight Sparkle is married to Prince Sparkle of... Minnesota, I think? Take the guy's word that his plushie is inhabited by the soul of a magical cartoon horse who projected herself across time and space to indulge in diaper play in a body she can't even move with a being not even of her own race, one who happens to be deeply psychologically screwed and has symptoms exactly the same as other psychotic people? I don't know about you, but if Twilight, who has been characterized as a skeptic, were confronted with that sort of question, there are countless other conclusions I'd expect she would jump to first... and furthermore, if she really were in the body of that plushie, surely she, as a level-headed, skeptical scientist, would understand that the evidence to the contrary is compelling and that there's literally no way to prove Jin's idea that she's really in there, and would tell him to give the whole 'proving it to the world' thing a break because it would ultimately embarrass the both of them.

By the way, that name behind the red bar during "Twilight's" angry rant in the screenshot, if no one has said it already, is probably Matt. I can't imagine why else it would be censored.

 

[creamyfanta]

That reminds me that he once paid someone to do a sexy photo shoot of his wifu as a present. (As well as he finds it sexy when she farts on him.) I can imagine the photographer just constantly tossed her against a wall and took pictures of where ever she landed.

Hoooold up. He has a fart fetish? Since when?? The ride never ends.

 

[LurkerTheLurker]

Hoooold up. He has a fart fetish? Since when?? The ride never ends.

I don't see a "horrifying" rating, so I gave you feels. Either way, it's pretty cringe-worthy.

 

[creamyfanta]

I don't see a "horrifying" rating, so I gave you feels. Either way, it's pretty cringe-worthy.

Gotta pay to get dat horrified rating, my friend.

 

[AnOminous]

By the way, that name behind the red bar during "Twilight's" angry rant in the screenshot, if no one has said it already, is probably Matt. I can't imagine why else it would be censored.

His name is well known to be Matt Beard. I think that's even in the OP.

 

[MysticMisty]

Hoooold up. He has a fart fetish? Since when?? The ride never ends.

Spoiler: NSFW

In the depths of this topic there's an image or quote about how one time he took "Twilight" out for vegetarian Mexican food and later that night during sex "she" was farting like crazy and it was a huge turn on for him. And it's still not the grossest fetish he has.

Spoiler

Apparently, his plush has mild anger issues. Who would've guessed?

Funniest thing is I think somewhere in this thread it was mentioned the boyfriend thing never happened in the show so he kept watching, just claiming about how certain shit "never happened" (it's a cartoon, of course it didn't fucking happen).

But it's not really at all surprising given how he pitches a fit whenever anybody else says Twilight is their waifu (and most everybody with a pony waifu for that matter), or draws porn he doesn't approve of. This is exactly why he gets his own thread instead of just being in the all-purpose brony thread.

 

[LurkerTheLurker]

Gotta pay to get dat horrified rating, my friend.

Oh.

His name is well known to be Matt Beard. I think that's even in the OP.

Oh.

Spoiler: NSFW

In the depths of this topic there's an image or quote about how one time he took "Twilight" out for vegetarian Mexican food and later that night during sex "she" was farting like crazy and it was a huge turn on for him. And it's still not the grossest fetish he has.

That is so, so gross, though.

 

[Hummingbird]

Three things.

Spoiler: Eww!

One. Yaoi, TMI! Couldn't you have at least put that behind a spoiler tag?

Two. A photo-shoot of his plushie? If I were in his position, I'd be so utterly depressed that the only real, visual depiction of my supposedly beautiful wife could only come in the form of a plushie that she is unfortunately forced to inhabit, and having images of her plushie around probably wouldn't help me to cope with her imprisonment, nor her with her inability to move or communicate with others. But, you know, all of that is perfectly okay because... he's delusional and she's a sock puppet, and not even a semblance of reality can stand in the way of their love.

Three. I never came across that post where he flipped out about Flash Sentry. That's pretty funny. It's like he takes offense that his 'wife' was portrayed in this TV show liking this other stallion, as though he didn't have the real thing and she was somehow being taken away from him. Like he didn't believe his own bull-crap. Even funnier is that 'Twilight' actually rages about it, calling it a "defamation of character." How are we supposed to know that the true Twilight Sparkle is married to Prince Sparkle of... Minnesota, I think? Take the guy's word that his plushie is inhabited by the soul of a magical cartoon horse who projected herself across time and space to indulge in diaper play in a body she can't even move with a being not even of her own race, one who happens to be deeply psychologically screwed and has symptoms exactly the same as other psychotic people? I don't know about you, but if Twilight, who has been characterized as a skeptic, were confronted with that sort of question, there are countless other conclusions I'd expect she would jump to first... and furthermore, if she really were in the body of that plushie, surely she, as a level-headed, skeptical scientist, would understand that the evidence to the contrary is compelling and that there's literally no way to prove Jin's idea that she's really in there, and would tell him to give the whole 'proving it to the world' thing a break because it would ultimately embarrass the both of them.

By the way, that name behind the red bar during "Twilight's" angry rant in the screenshot, if no one has said it already, is probably Matt. I can't imagine why else it would be censored.

When you think about it, this all leads to sociopathic aspects to Jin's character. You'd think someone who truly cared wouldn't want their loved one stuck in an immobile state if they had a chance to fix it.

 

[HickoryDickory]

I guess it's so she can't leave him? And/or she has imaginary Stockholm syndrome?