🪦 Deceased Joe Winko - THE GAYMASTER/Lol-Bvll / Self admitted Gay Hawaiian Ricardo Milos Cosplayer/Uploaded his consciousness to the Sims/Ed Wood of Machinima

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Vinluv Handesbukia said:
Joe’s life was fucked for the start,his twin brother was strangled by his junkie schizo father and he was next mind you, and the fact that he was THIS functional and didn’t end up chopped up in a ditch years ago is a literal miracle.
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Wait, i thought Crystal didn't exist and this story was completely fabricated and/or Crystal is a metaphor for Joe himself
 
Vinluv Handesbukia said:
He specifically didn't want us to feel too sorry and sad about his death! He wanted you to feel joy and peace that the is in heaven!
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That is an amazing video. He really conveyed that he is happy doing this and to not feel bad. Sad he had to go out throwing up blood and feeling all that pain though. I think he also conveyed that people with such thoughts aren't always sad. Fly High Joe Winco!

On another note, does anyone know this forum Joe was posting on and his account? It might serve helpful in understanding his story.
 
Sieg1888 said:
That is an amazing video. He really conveyed that he is happy doing this and to not feel bad. Sad he had to go out throwing up blood and feeling all that pain though. I think he also conveyed that people with such thoughts aren't always sad. Fly High Joe Winco!

On another note, does anyone know this forum Joe was posting on and his account? It might serve helpful in understanding his story.
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Gotta' give us more to go off of than just "this forum", chief.
 
Coo Coo Bird said:
What do they know? An 'active member of the suicide community' is by definition, incompetent.
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I know you are making a funny but:

tl;dr: MAID supportive medical professionals. Jack Kavorkian wasn't a one and done. You can also look at reports from people who survived accidental poisonings and connect phsyciological responses
 
Damn...
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Emotional Support Goose said:
Choosing to believe the convulsing at the end was agonal breathing and he wasn't lucid enough to feel it. RIP Joe Winko.
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I'm thinking it was agonal breathing - it's way too rhythmic to be anything else, indicating that some deeper hindbrain reflex is activating, trying anything it can to get some oxygen to the brain, as normal breathing [in that state given the obvious anxiety/etc and your body going 'ho fuck something is really wrong] would be a whole lot more ragged and probably much faster. Once the brain's upper lobes go lights out and all higher functions stop, the brainstem will hijack your body to try and sustain itself essentially, and it tries for a very long time. It's also quite unlikely he was conscious at all through most of it, I'd say the last sign of rational thought was when he tried to at least puke in the wastebasket he had next to him, but after that it was just the brainstem flailing around and firing off signals to the nerves. The whole process probably looked far worse than it really was - hopefully, but nobody can really know what someone who's dying is going through other than them.

To bring it back to that Ronnie McNutt video - and I'm gonna spoiler this because it's fucking brutal - for a brief second after he shotgun mouthwashed himself, you can see [because there is now nothing in the way because most of his fucking head is gone] his throat opening and closing, why? Because his hindbrain is still mostly intact, and despite the dude's head being fucking gone, it's still trying to get oxygen to the nonexistent brain.

But generally speaking the lights go out long before the body quits moving and trying to do anything it can to sustain itself.
 
neger psykolog said:
Joe's death has been nothing short of entertaining - I didn't watch the video but it seemed "entertaining" to at least some people. But the entire spectacle of his death plus the resulting literal gay guys having slapfights in his wake are admirable and make this death and funeral a unique and memorable one.

A well designed death, all things considered, perhaps the most well designed death we will maybe ever see? I rate it 10/10 - I'm usually cautious to rate something so highly but having scheduled post-death posts and gay guys fighting over you and trying to make accusations after your death is great.

I hope we continue to get gay guys slapfighting in this thread and I hope whenever I pass away that my death is even 10% as entertaining and as much of a spectacle as Joe's death.
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Not a gay man but if someone would be so kind to tag me after you die, I'll come into your last thread and shit it up with faggy arguments until I'm threadbanned.
 
Green Man said:
I'm thinking it was agonal breathing - it's way too rhythmic to be anything else, indicating that some deeper hindbrain reflex is activating, trying anything it can to get some oxygen to the brain, as normal breathing [in that state given the obvious anxiety/etc and your body going 'ho fuck something is really wrong] would be a whole lot more ragged and probably much faster. Once the brain's upper lobes go lights out and all higher functions stop, the brainstem will hijack your body to try and sustain itself essentially, and it tries for a very long time. It's also quite unlikely he was conscious at all through most of it, I'd say the last sign of rational thought was when he tried to at least puke in the wastebasket he had next to him, but after that it was just the brainstem flailing around and firing off signals to the nerves. The whole process probably looked far worse than it really was - hopefully, but nobody can really know what someone who's dying is going through other than them.

To bring it back to that Ronnie McNutt video - and I'm gonna spoiler this because it's fucking brutal - for a brief second after he shotgun mouthwashed himself, you can see [because there is now nothing in the way because most of his fucking head is gone] his throat opening and closing, why? Because his hindbrain is still mostly intact, and despite the dude's head being fucking gone, it's still trying to get oxygen to the nonexistent brain.

But generally speaking the lights go out long before the body quits moving and trying to do anything it can to sustain itself.
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By 34:40 Joe Winko is no longer home.

Sodium Nitrate isn't mega-lethal, so there are people who have taken even doses that would result in their deaths if untreated but get to a hospital in time and have survived, so there are people to interview for trip reports. There is a wave of nausea for a couple minutes after taking it, and then you just get very tired and sleepy as your blood oxygen level drops and cyanosis kicks in. Once it really kicks in there is some vague awareness like you are very sleepy, but its all far off.
think of times you've woken up in the middle of night, not fully woken up, but you have a vague recollection. Or how you sometimes wake up way late because it turns out you turned off your alarm in your sleep.

If you want to see a non-disturbing approximation of what Joe was experiencing, look up videos of people doing Hypoxia chambers. Just in his case, the oxygen never got turned back on.

I don't even think he was fully present when he was puking. I think he might have had some vague, half-asleep concept of what he was going through but was well on his way to outer space. I agree though - that's the last time Joe had anything close to a fully conscious thought, but I think he had a fading, distant concept of some level of awareness until about 35 minutes timestamp at which point he was so far gone I don't think you can say Joe Winko as a consciousness was experiencing anything of note anymore.

Anything more than that and we start getting into real deep, unanswerable questions about definitions of self/consciousness.
 
So whats the ETA when his corpse is going to be found?
He has been there for a while and probably stinking up the place already.
 
Vinluv Handesbukia said:
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You know, I said what I did in the OP rewrite thread about Joe Winko because I was bit frustrated there was no angle to help him because he withheld information to reach out while getting defensive over people who did care. It was annoying to see other users of the site try to help (That's something rare considering the culture here), but I guess this was all really set in stone from the beginning. I hope those words didn't cause this mindset because I do feel a level of remorseful-faggotry in my heart for this freaky nigga. But I still standby what I said slightly, because the more he opened up afterwards in his vlogs did help to paint the picture of his struggles rather than just ominous-hostility; I'll say he didn't matter more alive than dead, he just mattered in general. I still would have rather him be alive and living his best life because he did some genuine good as unintentionally comedic as it was at times, and I had been watching him for a few years. This is my gay albeit proper memorial peace to him and he's defiantly flying high if he thinks I'm going to just forget him, but I will leave him alone now. RIP.
 
Vinluv Handesbukia said:
Which one? Can you show me?
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this is as clear as I'm able to see it, I think it could be one of his many drawings. Actually I think hes just talking about love, I might have over thought it cause he says "he was never meant to find this"

Nazi Catboi said:
In the first 20 minutes of his death video, he holds up some paper (possibly a photo) to the camera and says "I was never meant to find this." I couldn't make it out, even on camera 1 where he tried focusing it. I could just be blind and dumb but I'm curious if he'd ever shown whatever that paper was before.
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This is what I am referring too.
 

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cool4thcat said:
this is as clear as I'm able to see it, I think it could be one of his many drawings. Actually I think hes just talking about love, I might have over thought it cause he says "he was never meant to find this"


This is what I am referring too.
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I tried adjusting the brightness and contrast, but the original image is so blown out that all the fine details are gone. I think it's a drawing of 2 figures, but that's about all I can make out.
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I don't like goblins said:
I tried adjusting the brightness and contrast, but the original image is so blown out that all the fine details are gone. I think it's a drawing of 2 figures, but that's about all I can make out.
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thanks that helped a lot, Its a drawing of himself I believe can't tell what he's standing on or whats going on towards the bottom.
 
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