- Joined
- Dec 10, 2018
Jonathon was a good character, kind of vanilla but I also appreciated his earnestness.
Joseph was definitely tons of fun, young and old. His natural cleverness and his needing to work his ass off to be ready for the Pillar Men turned out to be a deadly combination, and I appreciate the idea such a strong character got a "weak" stand to help balance him out and pass the torch on to the next generation.
Jotaro is okay. I like his continuation of Joseph's "noble asshole" shtick, albeit in a different way. He seems to get kind of boring as he grows older, though. Unlike Joseph, he gets sidelined due to getting a career and that's less appreciable to me. Not that there's anything wrong with getting a career obviously, but the fact that he just lets his stand ability stagnate over time, while believable, isn't something I'm super down with. The Gohan of JJBA.
Josuke is a better Jotaro in my opinion. He still has the noble masculinity attributed to delinquents in fiction, but he leans into it more strongly. We never see more of him to my knowledge, so we don't know if he lets Crazy Diamond stagnate or if he mellows out and becomes a mechanic or artist or whatever, but I appreciated his gregarious nature and his yankee aesthetic while it lasted.
Giorno is a really cool example of throwing the concept of a golden child or messiah figure into a world as dark as organized crime. He values the "honorable" side but understands that mob activities are hurtful to a lot of people and wants to end that. I don't like how Araki didn't make use of Diavolo's true weakness (the fact he needs to activate both King Crimson and Epitaph, meaning that Araki had to give him literally impossible reaction time to make sure Mista couldn't take him out), and the ending is probably one of the more deus ex-y of the JJBA franchise, but I also like how Giorno achieves his goal in the end.ONE PROBLEM THOUGH WHY THE FUCK WASN'T HE IN FLORIDA
Jolyne's complex and I ended up liking her. The friend who got me into JJBA actually advocated that I skip part 6, in his opinion Jolyne doesn't work because you can't directly translate inter-male honor/fighting social dynamics to a female and have it really work, but in my opinion Araki makes her more masculine appropriately enough, and it does end up working. I can absolutely see Jolyne being the way she is since we've basically established that Joestars are hot heads prone to delinquency, and those traits get amplified when social stresses like absentee parents are involved. All in all she's solid, not my favorite but solid.
Johnny is cool, I like the flipping of Jonathon from a total gentleman into a pompous dick with the reinterpretation of him into an American. I also like that he's already suffered for his attitude and is starting out from rock bottom. Much like Killua, his friendship is his saving grace and what stops him from continuing down his darker path. Gyro is best friend, the bonding they do over time is absolutely great. I actually came into this thinking I'd be voting Johnny but tbh I seem to be cooling on him. I like the fact that he has to evolve his stand over time, and I like the reversal in power themeing wherein Johnny gets control over a space-related stand whereas villain stands are usually associated with time manipulation.
I haven't read Jojolion yet, gas me.
So I guess Joseph>Johnny>Josuke>Giorno>Jolyne>Jonathon>Jotaro.
Joseph was definitely tons of fun, young and old. His natural cleverness and his needing to work his ass off to be ready for the Pillar Men turned out to be a deadly combination, and I appreciate the idea such a strong character got a "weak" stand to help balance him out and pass the torch on to the next generation.
Jotaro is okay. I like his continuation of Joseph's "noble asshole" shtick, albeit in a different way. He seems to get kind of boring as he grows older, though. Unlike Joseph, he gets sidelined due to getting a career and that's less appreciable to me. Not that there's anything wrong with getting a career obviously, but the fact that he just lets his stand ability stagnate over time, while believable, isn't something I'm super down with. The Gohan of JJBA.
Josuke is a better Jotaro in my opinion. He still has the noble masculinity attributed to delinquents in fiction, but he leans into it more strongly. We never see more of him to my knowledge, so we don't know if he lets Crazy Diamond stagnate or if he mellows out and becomes a mechanic or artist or whatever, but I appreciated his gregarious nature and his yankee aesthetic while it lasted.
Giorno is a really cool example of throwing the concept of a golden child or messiah figure into a world as dark as organized crime. He values the "honorable" side but understands that mob activities are hurtful to a lot of people and wants to end that. I don't like how Araki didn't make use of Diavolo's true weakness (the fact he needs to activate both King Crimson and Epitaph, meaning that Araki had to give him literally impossible reaction time to make sure Mista couldn't take him out), and the ending is probably one of the more deus ex-y of the JJBA franchise, but I also like how Giorno achieves his goal in the end.
Jolyne's complex and I ended up liking her. The friend who got me into JJBA actually advocated that I skip part 6, in his opinion Jolyne doesn't work because you can't directly translate inter-male honor/fighting social dynamics to a female and have it really work, but in my opinion Araki makes her more masculine appropriately enough, and it does end up working. I can absolutely see Jolyne being the way she is since we've basically established that Joestars are hot heads prone to delinquency, and those traits get amplified when social stresses like absentee parents are involved. All in all she's solid, not my favorite but solid.
Johnny is cool, I like the flipping of Jonathon from a total gentleman into a pompous dick with the reinterpretation of him into an American. I also like that he's already suffered for his attitude and is starting out from rock bottom. Much like Killua, his friendship is his saving grace and what stops him from continuing down his darker path. Gyro is best friend, the bonding they do over time is absolutely great. I actually came into this thinking I'd be voting Johnny but tbh I seem to be cooling on him. I like the fact that he has to evolve his stand over time, and I like the reversal in power themeing wherein Johnny gets control over a space-related stand whereas villain stands are usually associated with time manipulation.
I haven't read Jojolion yet, gas me.
So I guess Joseph>Johnny>Josuke>Giorno>Jolyne>Jonathon>Jotaro.
