JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Part 9 Jojolands currently ongoing

[Trashfire Garbagefuck]

or if either Josuke shooting the head doctor, or Tsurugi fusing with Tooru results in some kind of Bites-The-Dust style time reset that’ll have the same events play out in a different way.

Spoiler: baitza dasto

Wonder of U behaved a lot like Another One Bites the Dust in this chapter, just more messed up. It's not hiding in the light of your eye, it's hiding in your body like a parasite. Both of them operate like a "curse" too. I have to wonder if Josuke really stopped it, or if Tsurugi even won the Rokakaka struggle. The flash forward made a point to say Tsurugi's emotional state changed and his stand ability changed as a result. An ability like Another One Bites the Dust that alters reality to help the user instead of turning back time (Norisuke is still dead but the house is fine) seems like the kind of stand Tsurugi would have after absorbing Tooru. Or vice versa.

The other Kira parallels have me curious too, the way Tooru died is pretty similar to both his final end, but a dead kid inconveniencing him is what caused him to develop Bites the Dust originally, who also wasn't dead anymore after a flash back/forward.

Then again he might just say "fuck it" and end things right here. Bad guy is kill, Joey Jojolion got his girl, story over. Time to get hyped up about Part 9 and be disappointed five years later.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Anybody have a hard time getting into any of the arcs after Stardust Crusaders? The animation change is jarring and the new characters are boring.

Part 5 was hard to get into in the first third, I won't lie. Once my brother and I pushed through it and reached The Grateful Dead, things picked up from there, we noticed. And then we were wondering exactly why it took us forever to get to that part.

I hear DiU gets better when the villain shows up, but right now I'm stuck at the part where this one simp bitch is keep that annoying twat kid locked in her house.

Yukako grew on me, personally (but I like it when the yandere/tsundere is played around with), but the show picks up when best boi Rohan gets introduced a few episodes later, then really picks up the moment the villain shows his face. At this point, I honestly think Part 4 is my favorite, it has a human feel to it given the sleepy town setting.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Part 5 was hard to get into in the first third, I won't lie. Once my brother and I pushed through it and reached The Grateful Dead, things picked up from there, we noticed. And then we were wondering exactly why it took us forever to get to that part.


Yukako grew on me, personally (but I like it when the yandere/tsundere is played around with), but the show picks up when best boi Rohan gets introduced a few episodes later, then really picks up the moment the villain shows his face. At this point, I honestly think Part 4 is my favorite, it has a human feel to it given the sleepy town setting.

Part 5 is hard because Giorno fucking sucks, and his complete lack of a personality drags down everything else.

In every other respect, Part 5 is basically just Part 3 but better-written. Better main cast, WAY better villains, Diavolo/KK can at the very least rival Dio in meme potential. But Giorno is just a pretty poor replacement for Jotaro. With Jotaro, you can tell that under his overly-serious facade he does care about his family and his friends, and ultimately the whole reason he’s even on this mission is to save his mom’s life. Giorno is lacking that personal motivation - his goal is literally that he wants to be the fucking Pirate King. He also has little relation or chemistry with the rest of the cast, which isn’t that surprising considering they’re all strangers that he’s known for barely a week.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Part 5 is hard because Giorno fucking sucks, and his complete lack of a personality drags down everything else.

His lineage also apparently doesn't get as much attention as it probably should've. All we know is he's the actual son of DIO but through the Joestar bloodline since it was still Jonathan's body and it wasn't fully assimilated, but then it's never brought back into the plot. Maybe Araki was aware of his Gary Stu nature, but then didn't trust himself to play around with it.

I dunno, Giorno was definitely wasted potential.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

His lineage also apparently doesn't get as much attention as it probably should've. All we know is he's the actual son of DIO but through the Joestar bloodline since it was still Jonathan's body and it wasn't fully assimilated, but then it's never brought back into the plot. Maybe Araki was aware of his Gary Stu nature, but then didn't trust himself to play around with it.

I dunno, Giorno was definitely wasted potential.

Hell, Giorno's lineage ends up less important in Stone Ocean.

Spoiler

Because as it turns out that DIO had three other sons from women he banged back in the 80's, who all lived from the encounter and birthed Brando-Joestar kids which makes Giorno's existence less unique more than before.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Hell, Giorno's lineage ends up less important in Stone Ocean.

Spoiler

Because as it turns out that DIO had three other sons from women he banged back in the 80's, who all lived from the encounter and birthed Brando-Joestar kids which makes Giorno's existence less unique more than before.

I guess he’s a little unique in that he’s the only one who’s not a total fuckup.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Hell, Giorno's lineage ends up less important in Stone Ocean.

Spoiler

Because as it turns out that DIO had three other sons from women he banged back in the 80's, who all lived from the encounter and birthed Brando-Joestar kids which makes Giorno's existence less unique more than before.

I mean I don't really think that makes Giorno look less unique, if anything it makes him look better since he is the only one of DIO's kids that isn't a complete fuckup and made a name for himself without relying on DIO.

I say this as someone who considers him to be the worst Jojo.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

probably just me being autistic but I hate when anime/manga/aything has several chapeters/episodes but the story is supposed to take place in the span of a few days, because in this case Giorno went from barely knowing what a stand is to having one of the most if not the most broken stand in the whole series all in the span of like a week

 

[Jolyne THICCujoh]

Riding the Giorno criticism train, I think his lack of real ANYTHING is what really makes him worst Jojo for me. Sure, he's got his dream and all of that, but throughout the story, it doesn't feel like he really has any interest or much stake in Bruno and the Gang besides helping him in his dream. And it's even worst with Diavolo as Giorno just wants him out of the way. Like...he doesn't build a real CONNECTION with anyone.

 

[Nobunaga]

I guess he’s a little unique in that he’s the only one who’s not a total fuckup.

Rikiel wasn't a fuckup, he just needed q confidence boost

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Rikiel wasn't a fuckup, he just needed q confidence boost

I mean he was morally the least bad of the Part 6 DIO kids but he still had issues with those tiny creatures that were fucking him over in addition to those self-confidence issues.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Not to double post but holy fuck the manga-only side of the fandom is annoying because they are boiling down into two sides that essentially act like they know where Jojolion is going whether it will end in a month (not likely) or keep going on for 20 or so chapters.

Can these people just go along with the ride and wait and see instead of treating their own theories as facts.

 

[Trombonista]

 

[Dr. Pasquale]

I find it funny how smug HamonBeat acts when he's talking about the fandom or simping for Part VIII. Dude was souding so certain that Jojolion still had a lot of road to cover and then BAM, Chap. 110 is confirmed to be the last one and there are still a bunch of Araki Forgot shit that hasn't been adressed.

Overall I don't think the plot holes, retconning and forgotten setups completely ruin the narrative or anything, but it does make it a hell of a lot weaker than previous parts, especially when the entire point of Jojolion was to solve out the big mystery about Josuke and the Rokakakas since Chapter 1.

As a whole it just felt so directionless while I was reading. Shit seemed like it was building up to something, but never really got there. The main villains are defeated and we still don't fucking now what their entire deal was about.

 

[Jolyne THICCujoh]

Jojolion was never gonna end strong or solid unless Araki pulled Tokyo Drift turns with the plot. Everyone joked about the part having no main villain but I think that was the biggest issue with the story. Sorta. I mean more like...it didn't have an element or big ol threat to the characters that would make them act the way they do and drive the plot. I feel as if the Rock Disease was supposed to be just that but it appeared so little in the story and really wasn't much or any of Gappy's business or issue.

The whole story felt like having so many characters but no plot for them, so they just dick around in the lovingly built setting.

 

[Chilson]

Jojolion was never gonna end strong or solid unless Araki pulled Tokyo Drift turns with the plot. Everyone joked about the part having no main villain but I think that was the biggest issue with the story. Sorta. I mean more like...it didn't have an element or big ol threat to the characters that would make them act the way they do and drive the plot. I feel as if the Rock Disease was supposed to be just that but it appeared so little in the story and really wasn't much or any of Gappy's business or issue.

The whole story felt like having so many characters but no plot for them, so they just dick around in the lovingly built setting.

Remember, Josuke's sister is melted by Vitamin C and that is the last relevant thing she has done (and she didn't do much before that). She is a stand user and supposed to be his ally with a blood relation to our main JoJo, but has been completely irrelevant for a good 90% minimum of the manga. This is one of literally 100+ examples of characters, plot lines, details and story hooks that have been set up and completely forgotten. Which kind of defeats the whole point of monthly issues which were supposed to help Araki overcome these glaring writing flaws, if anything they got worse.

I get that Araki really wanted to shake things up with Jojolion and branch out from his typical MO and writing style, but holy shit did it absolutely not work.

 

[Treyvon Azagthot]

Remember, Josuke's sister is melted by Vitamin C and that is the last relevant thing she has done (and she didn't do much before that).

Kei? Prior to that didnt she explain to Josuke how he is a split of both Kira and Josuke? Didnt she save Yasuho's and Josuke's ass during the Tooru fight only to get beaten the fuck out by Tooru?
My guess is that Araki is gonna pull a AC: Revelations and make part 9 both a direct sequel to 8 and prequel focusing on Fumi. My other theory is that "flashback man" might be a part of Kira's memories and might play a part latter on.

If flashback man turns out to be alt universe Giorno and perhaps confirms Dinopants I will punch a dry wall.

 

[Dr. Pasquale]

Kei? Prior to that didnt she explain to Josuke how he is a split of both Kira and Josuke? Didnt she save Yasuho's and Josuke's ass during the Tooru fight only to get beaten the fuck out by Tooru?
My guess is that Araki is gonna pull a AC: Revelations and make part 9 both a direct sequel to 8 and prequel focusing on Fumi. My other theory is that "flashback man" might be a part of Kira's memories and might play a part latter on.

If flashback man turns out to be alt universe Giorno and perhaps confirms Dinopants I will punch a dry wall.

I really don't want to wait another 10 years of mediocre storytelling just to discover if Araki really did forgot or not.

 

[Chilson]

Kei? Prior to that didnt she explain to Josuke how he is a split of both Kira and Josuke? Didnt she save Yasuho's and Josuke's ass during the Tooru fight only to get beaten the fuck out by Tooru?
My guess is that Araki is gonna pull a AC: Revelations and make part 9 both a direct sequel to 8 and prequel focusing on Fumi. My other theory is that "flashback man" might be a part of Kira's memories and might play a part latter on.

If flashback man turns out to be alt universe Giorno and perhaps confirms Dinopants I will punch a dry wall.

I really don't want to wait another 10 years of mediocre storytelling just to discover if Araki really did forgot or not.

I didn't say completely irrelevant, I left a generous 10%, but honestly she has done relatively nothing despite having such a close relation to the main Jojo, being introduced early on and having quite an offensive stand. It was also just an example to demonstrate how poorly managed this whole part has been.

I am also judging part 8 on its own with (surprisingly) minimal connections to part 7. I really don't care what happens in part 9 because part 8 has really destroyed my love for this new world that part 7 went to great lengths to build. And as @John Cakeless pointed out its going to take a decade for part 9 to get anywhere (I hate the monthly releases if this is the quality we are getting with them), so who cares about it right now.

I would be happy if they just don't mention part 8 at all and act like it didn't happen because...well nothing did actually happen.