JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Part 9 Jojolands currently ongoing

[Doctor of Autism]

Is anybody else scared to death for the SBR anime if they ever decide to do it? DP isn't an awful studio and they're probably the best to handle jojo, but I just don't think they could do Araki's art in that part proper justice. Also there would probably be horse CGI out the ass.

As for the third part of the Part 6 anime, I have been worrying about how they were going to do Bohemian Rhapsody and the finale for the better part of a decade and I'm so glad that they delivered on it so well. No What a Wonderful World though, it would've made this my favorite adapted part of JoJo.

Honestly I think it is inevitable that a Part 7 anime wouldn't be able to fully capture Araki's work due to the difference in medium, but I think by the time that it would come out which I think will be around 2025 or so, technology would progress enough for it to be possible with the horses.

I do also think Part 7 could happen only because Jojo is a moneymaker, but will take time so the end of Part 6 would stick.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I read somewhere the chief issue for adapting Steel Ball Run is the animation of the horses. It would add to the production budget.

Also, has any story details/plot synopsis leaks come out for the next manga part? Last I heard, the only think to leak out was that it was going to be called "JoJo Land".

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I read somewhere the chief issue for adapting Steel Ball Run is the animation of the horses. It would add to the production budget.

Also, has any story details/plot synopsis leaks come out for the next manga part? Last I heard, the only think to leak out was that it was going to be called "JoJo Land".

Well with horses I think it will be not that much of a hassle in a few years

Also the only detail about the next part is the Jojo is a descendant of Joseph Joestar that appeared in Jojolion

 

[UnKillFill]

OK, I just got into made in heaven (or is it maiden heaven. OK, no it isn't.)
I'll spoiler the rest of this.
This is kind of stupid. If somebody dies in the original loop then they don't come back? Everybody fucking dies so nobody should have come back at all... Right? .

 

[Doctor of Autism]

OK, I just got into made in heaven (or is it maiden heaven. OK, no it isn't.)
I'll spoiler the rest of this.
This is kind of stupid. If somebody dies in the original loop then they don't come back? Everybody fucking dies so nobody should have come back at all... Right? .

It's more if someone died during Made in Heaven's Time acceleration, they're wiped from existence and basically have replacements made to fill the void for them in the next universe. Basically bootlegs of them in the next universe.

 

[SandyCat]

The 3D opening in Stone Ocean isn't half bad. Don't often see 3D being pulled off well in anime

 

[PuffyGroundCloud]

I almost cry at the ending segment
One hell of a journey
What a wonderful world indeed

 

[UnKillFill]

OK, I just got into made in heaven (or is it maiden heaven. OK, no it isn't.)
I'll spoiler the rest of this.
This is kind of stupid. If somebody dies in the original loop then they don't come back? Everybody fucking dies so nobody should have come back at all... Right? .

I'm gonna have to watch the ending few episodes again when I'm in a better frame of mind.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

Yeah it'll just be CG horses and that won't really matter since the horses are basically furniture after the first sprint.
I'd expect a lot of CG in general because the travelling backgrounds would be a lot easier that way (although again it's mostly fucking nothing but desert or snow after the first bit, but it'll help for those boxy town sections and train and shit so it seems logical they'll go that way).
That stuff doesn't bother me, so whatever.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Didn't the studio making JoJo say they weren't sure if they were even going to touch Steel Ball Run just because of how hard it would be to adapt? I wouldn't be surprised if they either skip it, or hand it off to another studio to do.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Didn't the studio making JoJo say they weren't sure if they were even going to touch Steel Ball Run just because of how hard it would be to adapt? I wouldn't be surprised if they either skip it, or hand it off to another studio to do.

I am unsure, I do remember reading how some members of the staff want to do all the parts, one of them wanting to do Jojolion.

Like it could potentially happen since Jojo is a huge cash cow and has gotten more popular so it wouldn't make sense not to stop there. But I have as much insight as everyone else since I personally doubt we'll get any news about the Jojo anime for a few years.

EDIT: The only possible news of Steel Ball Run being animated however is that there was a patent placed around the same time there was one for Stone Ocean.

 

[Gar For Archer]

The issue with animating Jojolion is like, are they just… gonna leave it the way it is? Bullshit “flash forward” and all?

DP has been willing to make changes to improve the story before, e.g. adding extra scenes in Pt 5 or reorganizing some arcs in Pt 4 to make the story flow better narratively. But Part 8 can’t really be “fixed” without significantly rewriting the latter half. Basically after the Josuke identity reveal (which is probably one of the few plot points that was planned from the start) the story completely goes to shit.

The ideal scenario is they work closely with Araki and basically do an officially-sanctioned anime-only ending, but that honestly seems kinda unlikely since by the time Part 8 gets animated, Araki will probably be busy with Part 9.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

The issue with animating Jojolion is like, are they just… gonna leave it the way it is? Bullshit “flash forward” and all?

DP has been willing to make changes to improve the story before, e.g. adding extra scenes in Pt 5 or reorganizing some arcs in Pt 4 to make the story flow better narratively. But Part 8 can’t really be “fixed” without significantly rewriting the latter half. Basically after the Josuke identity reveal (which is probably one of the few plot points that was planned from the start) the story completely goes to shit.

The ideal scenario is they work closely with Araki and basically do an officially-sanctioned anime-only ending, but that honestly seems kinda unlikely since by the time Part 8 gets animated, Araki will probably be busy with Part 9.

Yeah like Part 8 is a part that I can see having a lot of changes in the anime, especially with like Flash Forward man, and probably changing some stuff so the Doctors bullshit is better incorporated into the plot.

Part 8 is a part that I feel probably derailed because of real world events since Araki seemed to be very paranoid of COVID based on his authors notes and it probably made him feel that the Wonder of U would fit better as the final enemy because of it, which led to probably the worst finale arc in all of Jojo

 

[Gar For Archer]

Yeah like Part 8 is a part that I can see having a lot of changes in the anime, especially with like Flash Forward man, and probably changing some stuff so the Doctors bullshit is better incorporated into the plot.

Part 8 is a part that I feel probably derailed because of real world events since Araki seemed to be very paranoid of COVID based on his authors notes and it probably made him feel that the Wonder of U would fit better as the final enemy because of it, which led to probably the worst finale arc in all of Jojo

Nah, I think it ended up the way it did because Araki tried to do something radically different from every part that came before it. Parts 1-7 all had very barebones plots with little in the way of any serious themes, and this is a formula that mostly works with Araki’s “make shit up as you go” style of storytelling. Part 8 was clearly a lot more ambitious story-wise, it’s obvious that he had some explicit themes he was trying to write towards (…because he literally spells it out in the last chapter), but it feels like he was still writing it chapter by chapter (or at best arc by arc) without a clear plan for how the story would actually wrap up. Basically, the kind of story it’s trying to be heavily clashes with the writing style Araki has used for literal decades.

I think Jojolion kinda sucks as an overall product but I respect the attempt to try something different from the usual “villain of the week road trip” format he likes so much, and I also respect that he decided to just end it rather abruptly instead of continuing to drag it on. I’m sure he also has lots of thoughts about how he’d rewrite parts of the story if given a second chance, which is exactly what an anime would provide.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Nah, I think it ended up the way it did because Araki tried to do something radically different from every part that came before it. Parts 1-7 all had very barebones plots with little in the way of any serious themes, and this is a formula that mostly works with Araki’s “make shit up as you go” style of storytelling. Part 8 was clearly a lot more ambitious story-wise, it’s obvious that he had some explicit themes he was trying to write towards (…because he literally spells it out in the last chapter), but it feels like he was still writing it chapter by chapter (or at best arc by arc) without a clear plan for how the story would actually wrap up. Basically, the kind of story it’s trying to be heavily clashes with the writing style Araki has used for literal decades.

I think Jojolion kinda sucks as an overall product but I respect the attempt to try something different from the usual “villain of the week road trip” format he likes so much, and I also respect that he decided to just end it rather abruptly instead of continuing to drag it on. I’m sure he also has lots of thoughts about how he’d rewrite parts of the story if given a second chance, which is exactly what an anime would provide.

Idk for me, the moment the Wonder of U arc happened, it felt like a completely different story and the whole Doctors thing felt like typical monster of the week with Tooru ending up to be a generic power hungry villain. There was clearly more to Part 8 but the second half felt like monster of the week and the story looked like it was having a very different conflict about family drama than just "Beat the hidden bad guy" (cause if the story had family drama as the forefront in the final third, then the ending would've felt earned really.)

 

[Gar For Archer]

Yeah, that’s my point, he WANTED to tell a story about identity and family drama and mystery, but he wrote it as if he were a monster of the week beat-the-bad-guy story (e.g. not really having a clear overarching plan for the story, and clearly planning out setups and payoffs). I think it’s almost kinda Game of Thrones syndrome where he had a pretty clear idea in mind for the first half of the story, a rough idea of how he wanted to end it, and kinda just assumed he’d figure out how to get from Point A to Point B when the time came, except he didn’t.

 

[Chilson]

Idk for me, the moment the Wonder of U arc happened, it felt like a completely different story and the whole Doctors thing felt like typical monster of the week with Tooru ending up to be a generic power hungry villain. There was clearly more to Part 8 but the second half felt like monster of the week and the story looked like it was having a very different conflict about family drama than just "Beat the hidden bad guy" (cause if the story had family drama as the forefront in the final third, then the ending would've felt earned really.)

Part 8 was a shitshow well before Covid. Not to beat a dead horse, but we thoroughly explored Part 8's problems to death way earlier in this thread when it finished.

Araki has no real experience, or frankly talent, at telling a true mystery story where the audience doesn't get the reveal until the end which led to the absolute garbage finale, plot threads hanging all over the place, several side characters not getting proper conclusions to their arcs (or straight up disappearing from the story), "clues" that were forgotten and often completely nonsensical in retrospect once they were used to move the plot along, villains whose interest and appeal was completely ruined in retrospect (and the character who should have been the true villain, Jobin, being completely side swiped from the story) and worst of all a boring protagonist who doesn't really have much Prescence beyond his stand and I can't say that for any of the other Jojo protagonists, even Giorno who did have something to say or do as a character every now and again unlike part 8's who seemed to simply go with whatever the flow was with minimal input.

The fights in part 8 were both the best and worst the Jojo Series has had to offer. With the worst fights having several pretty major stands being incredibly unclear and ill-defined with their abilities (including the primary Jojo stand, I still have only the barest idea what soft and wet can do). There were flat out stands whose rules for their abilities were explained in detail and then those rules were broken in the next chapter and never addressed because "Araki forgot" what the rules were (that is the only explanation I can have for some of the fights).

The anime would have to pretty much pick up from the mid-point and completely re-write the second half with the Higashikata family at its core to make it actually good. Because as it stands, part 8 is pretty easily my least favorite part in all of Jojo. At least part 1 is a dumb fun if only a little generic ride.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

Yeah it's nothing new for Jojo but he forgets how the main fucking character's power works after like two chapters. Unlike some people I do think it's possible to write a mystery without planning anything and just making up bullshit as you go, but you should probably keep notes at least.

I like Jojolion more than SBR but my baseline here is super fucking low expectations so I never really expected things to come together.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Haven't read SBR, but how it seems with animated 3d is that the quality is proportional to the amount of time spent on the initial moding. So it they spend a good chunk if time giving the horses some love (not the Vaush kind) it should carry them until the end.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Honestly the horses are only a big deal for the first portion and final arc of SBR, afterwards there aren’t that many horses in one scene or they’re used as a prop or set piece