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[Miss Misery]

Calif. all one has to do is say they're trans & get shipped off to the womens prisons....TOTAL insanity

No. Transgender inmates have to petition the warden for a transfer to a women's prison and if the warden denies the request then they'll have to appeal to CDCR's Secretary - the head of the department. And if the secretary says no, then they can start a nice long appeals process through the courts.

"Trans" inmates can't even get a diagnosis of gender dysphoria and HRT without a year of GD in their medical record.

As I said, it may be the law, but prison administrators know how to make policy they disagree with work in their favor anyway.

Much appreciated. Maybe it's off topic but now my interest is piqued; how are the living conditions as an inmate (patient?) having been committed to a mental health facility compared to a regular prison?

I can't speak for elsewhere, but in California they're the same. Seriously mentally ill inmates get sent to state hospitals. JY is not seriously mentally ill.

 

[oKTrooner]

@Let's Find Out!

A situation where a person is sentenced as a male and seeks to transition while in the Corrections system is Very different than a person who is before the courts as a woman, and is sentenced as a woman.

I can't speak for elsewhere, but...

Then don't speak for elsewhere, and quit Larping lawyer, you're embarrassing yourself

 

[Short Stack]

No. Transgender inmates have to petition the warden for a transfer to a women's prison and if the warden denies the request then they'll have to appeal to CDCR's Secretary - the head of the department. And if the secretary says no, then they can start a nice long appeals process through the courts.

"Trans" inmates can't even get a diagnosis of gender dysphoria and HRT without a year of GD in their medical record.

As I said, it may be the law, but prison administrators know how to make policy they disagree with work in their favor anyway.


I can't speak for elsewhere, but in California they're the same. Seriously mentally ill inmates get sent to state hospitals. JY is not seriously mentally ill.

California passes law to house transgender inmates by gender identity

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a law on Saturday requiring California to house transgender inmates in prisons based on their gender identity — but only if the state does not have “ma…

nypost.com

 

[Miss Misery]

LOL okay kids. Have fun.

 

[moseph.jartelli]

@Let's Find Out!

A situation where a person is sentenced as a male and seeks to transition while in the Corrections system is Very different than a person who is before the courts as a woman, and is sentenced as a woman.



Then don't speak for elsewhere, and quit Larping lawyer, you're embarrassing yourself

He's talking about California. Settle down and shoot a moose or eat some poutine or whatever, eh?

 

[oKTrooner]

@moseph.jartelli it is often useful to read the entire context of a thread to understand responses. There was a dialog going on for a few pages, and understanding that would illuminate the context of my reply.

Open question: why do people here seem to think responses are somehow emotionally driven?

No rational adult lets random, anonymous strangers impact their emotional state or esteem. I wonder if it might be projection from people who's peer group and social interaction comes primarily from internet boards... I can't imagine how lonely that must be.

 

[moseph.jartelli]

@moseph.jartelli it is often useful to read the entire context of a thread to understand responses. There was a dialog going on for a few pages, and understanding that would illuminate the context of my reply.

Open question: why do people here seem to think responses are somehow emotionally driven?

No rational adult lets random, anonymous strangers impact their emotional state or esteem. I wonder if it might be projection from people who's peer group and social interaction comes primarily from internet boards... I can't imagine how lonely that must be.

I did read the thread, but that particular post is about California. And you seemed to be taking everyones innacurracies to heart. I'm just saying YOU should follow Canada's legally binding National Motto and 'Chill Oot Bud, eh?"

 

[oKTrooner]

I did read the thread, but that particular post is about California. And you seemed to be taking everyones innacurracies to heart. I'm just saying YOU should follow Canada's legally binding National Motto and 'Chill Oot Bud, eh?"

I think you're projecting again lol

 

[RodgerDodger]

JY is likely going to end up with some court ordered counceling and possibly some fines. Nobody is going to put his fat ass in prison because of the various autist on autist slap fights. If just because tossing Yaniv in prison is a cruel and unusual thing to do to the other inmates. Not even murderers and rapists deserve that.

 

[LM Digging Ass]

@REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Up here, Correctional Services Canada uses the term "Institution" for prison. They're synonyms here.

Per ShortStack's question about getting JJYS into a mental hospital, or committed to a mental health facility, I wrote a fair bit about why that is nearly impossible in the case of JJYS.

Basically in BC, much like the rest of Canada, it is pretty hard to get someone committed against their will for longer than 48 hours. I provide quotes and links in a previous post somewhere in the Yaniv section of the farms if anyone feels like hunting.

As for the poster that says Yaniv is unlikely to receive a custodial sentence for his crimes (thus far), they are absolutely correct. I've pointed out numerous times that speculating about Yaniv being given a custodial sentence is, at this juncture, pure fantasy.

As for the speculation about where he would serve his time if he were to, one day, be sentenced to prison... He's a woman in the eyes of the law. End of discussion.

I think this conversation occurs about every 10-15 pages.

Finally, with regards to @Hyacinth Bucket (Bouquet) saying this isn't worth getting angry over.. I don't think anyone is angry. I certainly don't read anger into the comments of people who don't understand a topic or concept.

FYI. Sources tell me that there is a possibility of getting a 30-day NCRMD/Fitness done, in-custody, at the nearest facility. In fattie's cases, that would be Port Coquitlam and their in-patient hospital.

Forensic Psychiatric Hospital (@ Colony Farm) | Department of Physical Therapy

physicaltherapy.med.ubc.ca

But I seriously doubt it unless he gets into some real trouble. Just remember that this is an option. Given that it's a 30-day hold, it might reveal some interesting details about his lack of menstrual capacity, and mental capacity.

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

FYI. Sources tell me that there is a possibility of getting a 30-day NCRMD/Fitness done, in-custody, at the nearest facility. In fattie's cases, that would be Port Coquitlam and their in-patient hospital.

Forensic Psychiatric Hospital (@ Colony Farm) | Department of Physical Therapy

physicaltherapy.med.ubc.ca

But I seriously doubt it unless he gets into some real trouble. Just remember that this is an option. Given that it's a 30-day hold, it might reveal some interesting details about his lack of menstrual capacity, and mental capacity.

Well, we already know he's insane and a fucking idiot...

 

[W00K #17]

He's the type of weird fuck to dig tampons out of the sanitary bin and fucking chomp on them like gum

I like to call it the vampires lollipop

 

[Awel an Ankoù]

"Touching up a photo"

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[The Un-Clit]

Since we can't seem to get off the topic of wether JY will go to a men or woman's institution should he actually get a custodial sentence (fingers crossed but highly unlikely) I just happened to run across an amusing story about what happened when a guy in prison gets a surprise new roomate, but I won't spoil what the guy saw his new roomie doing.

It's a long and slow-starting story but it gives you alot of insight into the social structure of American high-sec prisons, and has some pretty funny moments.

 

[gaystoner]

Is jonathon the first Troon Gunt?

 

[gaystoner]

Since we can't seem to get off the topic of wether JY will go to a men or woman's institution should he actually get a custodial sentence (fingers crossed but highly unlikely) I just happened to run across an amusing story about what happened when a guy in prison gets a surprise new roomate, but I won't spoil what the guy saw his new roomie doing.

It's a long and slow-starting story but it gives you alot of insight into the social structure of American high-sec prisons, and has some pretty funny moments.

this is straight kino. thank you.

 

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

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Is jonathon the first Troon Gunt?

Damnit Yaniv, quit posting pictures of your axe wound and pretending it's food!

 

[PonelessBizza]

"Touching up a photo"
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At least he actually admits it

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

"Touching up a photo"
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That's not "touching up" a photo, that's sexually abusing it.

Right up his alley.

 

[Kiislova]

Never really noticed before how much of a wingnut (big ears) he is.

However...
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Looks 100% female with each passing day.

That picture is perfect to do the UNITINU / Two-sides meme with his face.

Spoiler: Side A

Spoiler: Side B

Edit:

Since we can't seem to get off the topic of wether JY will go to a men or woman's institution should he actually get a custodial sentence (fingers crossed but highly unlikely) I just happened to run across an amusing story about what happened when a guy in prison gets a surprise new roomate, but I won't spoil what the guy saw his new roomie doing.

It's a long and slow-starting story but it gives you alot of insight into the social structure of American high-sec prisons, and has some pretty funny moments.

That video is a hell of a story, worth the watch even if a bit slow.