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[2nd_time_user]

The Superior Court at the county level is probably bound by the earlier decision, but another panel of the First Appellate Division is not necessarily bound by it. They could be trying to get contradictory opinions to get a shot at a Supreme Court of California opinion.

The appellate panel didn't even allow Taylor argument, they just heard Twitter and sent it back to Superior Court, which declined then to hear the ruling. That's their own court's ruling, and a different finding (different judges or not) would invite a refiling of Taylor. The Ninth Circuit doesn't want to be seen as aiding a self-proclaimed white nationalist.

 

[AnOminous]

The appellate panel didn't even allow Taylor argument, they just heard Twitter and sent it back to Superior Court, which declined then to hear the ruling. That's their own court's ruling, and a different finding (different judges or not) would invite a refiling of Taylor. The Ninth Circuit doesn't want to be seen as aiding a self-proclaimed white nationalist.

The Ninth Circuit has nothing to do with it. It's a state case.

 

[2nd_time_user]

The Ninth Circuit has nothing to do with it. It's a state case.

Absolutely correct, see https://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2785&context=historical

The same logic applies, however: It will be very politically incorrect for any California court to rule in favor of Murphy, especially as it'd open the door to Taylor.

If I were them, I'd retweet Dan Abrams' link that names Yaniv https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/fem...r-she-tweets-men-arent-woman-and-gets-banned/, follow with the Economist (names him as JY while talking about the tampons) and then Spectator UK

 

[AnOminous]

The same logic applies, however: It will be very politically incorrect for any California court to rule in favor of Murphy, especially as it'd open the door to Taylor.

They're bound by the law. They're not going to deliberately make a legally wrong decision just to get some other guy who has nothing to do with it.

I just don't think there's much difference between the cases and what difference there is is not legally relevant. Unless the California Supreme Court interprets § 230 differently, I don't see how Murphy wins.

 

[GethN7]

They're bound by the law. They're not going to deliberately make a legally wrong decision just to get some other guy who has nothing to do with it.

I just don't think there's much difference between the cases and what difference there is is not legally relevant. Unless the California Supreme Court interprets § 230 differently, I don't see how Murphy wins.

I honestly don't see Murphy winning on the points of law, but I do see this forcing Twitter to explain itself publicly, and no matter what they say, they are placed in the position of admitting they deliberately shielded Yaniv and others like him on purpose.

If that's the end goal of Murphy's legal thrust, seems pretty sound a strategy.

 

[2nd_time_user]

I honestly don't see Murphy winning on the points of law, but I do see this forcing Twitter to explain itself publicly, and no matter what they say, they are placed in the position of admitting they deliberately shielded Yaniv and others like him on purpose.

If that's the end goal of Murphy's legal thrust, seems pretty sound a strategy.

If that's the case, the wave of PR has already crested without mobilization to educate the public about Yaniv. That'd involve Tweeting the Dan Abrams lawandcrime.com article naming Yaniv, then the Economist that brought up the screenshots, then how moms in Canada got taken off of Twitter for naming Yaniv AS A PEDO in JANUARY from accounts Twitter believes might cause it trouble, like the Federalist columnist who got permabanned then resuscitated by Twitter with no explanation, or Heritage, or basically mainstream conservatism. That window of opportunity hasn't been taken and will soon vanish, making me wonder what the end game is.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

That window of opportunity hasn't been taken and will soon vanish, making me wonder what the end game is.

The endgame is for Meghan Murphy to become a world famous career-TERF and to go into the feminist history books as the Canadian TERF who stood up to troons by frivolously suing Twitter. It's about promoting herself first and foremost. She said that her book publisher dropped her book deal after they realized that the book was gender critical, so maybe she is hoping to find a new book publisher through the media exposure generated by her lolsuit.

I think TERFs are just playing a silly game of whack-a-mole with Ballwaxer, if wasn't him it would have been some other trannie that convinced Twitter to enact the 1984 speech rules. Obsessed troons targeting TERFs are a dime a dozen on Twitter.

but I do see this forcing Twitter to explain itself publicly, and no matter what they say, they are placed in the position of admitting they deliberately shielded Yaniv and others like him on purpose.

Twitter won't have to do that because Meghan Murphy - like other TERFs who got banned before her (Posie Parker, Venice Allen, Mancheeze) but didn't have the cult of personality to fund their lawsuits for them - has an extensive history of deadnaming and misgendering troons to their faces, initiating dogpiles of troons, participating in dogpiles of troons initiated by other Twitter TERFs, Twitter will have no trouble showing that their algorithms had already flagged her account being a possible repeat offender, possibly through flagging campaigns carried out by troons other than just Ballwaxer. These is a group of troons (lead by Casey Explosion) on Twitter who periodically go around flagging TERF accounts together, AFAIK they were already doing that before Ballwaxer arrived on the scene.

 

[GethN7]

The endgame is for Meghan Murphy to become a world famous career-TERF and to go into the feminist history books as the Canadian TERF who stood up to troons by frivolously suing Twitter. It's about promoting herself first and foremost. She said that her book publisher dropped her book deal after they realized that the book was gender critical, so maybe she is hoping to find a new book publisher through the media exposure generated by her lolsuit.

I think TERFs are just playing a silly game of whack-a-mole with Ballwaxer, if wasn't him it would have been some other trannie that convinced Twitter to enact the 1984 speech rules. Obsessed troons targeting TERFs are a dime a dozen on Twitter.



Twitter won't have to do that because Meghan Murphy - like other TERFs who got banned before her (Posie Parker, Venice Allen, Mancheeze) but didn't have the cult of personality to fund their lawsuits for them - has an extensive history of deadnaming and misgendering troons to their faces, initiating dogpiles of troons, participating in dogpiles of troons initiated by other Twitter TERFs, Twitter will have no trouble showing that their algorithms had already flagged her account being a possible repeat offender, possibly through flagging campaigns carried out by troons other than just Ballwaxer. These is a group of troons (lead by Casey Explosion) on Twitter who periodically go around flagging TERF accounts together, AFAIK they were already doing that before Ballwaxer arrived on the scene.

That does make sense, but I don't really see Twitter going to extreme lengths to cover Yaniv's ass on this one.

They might be able to shut this down as you say, but I'm sure they're going to lose something no matter what. Besides, it wasn't just Murphy the Yaniv shutdown campaign has affected, other blue checkmarks have gotten threatened or silenced, and it will likely depend on how seriously Twitter considers this an embarrassment if they can't just make it all go away before it hits a courtroom on whether they'll stick by ball wax man or BTFO Murphy.

And even if the damage is minimal, Yaniv can't make his creepy bullshit being public record go away, so worst case, Murphy has that Parthian shot to go with if nothing else.

 

[Null]

Someone sent me an email this morning claiming that Yaniv is basically his Vordrak and is responsible for $200,000 in damages over several years. I'm asking for proof but this guy might genuinely be the most dangerous person we have a thread on at this point.

 

[Splendid]

I think a lot of people here are imagining that not punishing Yaniv is going to make some sort of national headlines and lead to widespread criticism of Twitter, but this is just a tiny sideshow and will never be known about outside of a few tiny communities.

 

[GethN7]

I think a lot of people here are imagining that not punishing Yaniv is going to make some sort of national headlines and lead to widespread criticism of Twitter, but this is just a tiny sideshow and will never be known about outside of a few tiny communities.

Worst case, he gets some shitty publicity he can't make go away, that's all I'm really expecting to be honest, given the climate Murphy's case is up against.

 

[QWXXP Surprise!]

Someone sent me an email this morning claiming that Yaniv is basically his Vordrak and is responsible for $200,000 in damages over several years. I'm asking for proof but this guy might genuinely be the most dangerous person we have a thread on at this point.

Nigga you have my full attention.

 

[MG 620]

I think a lot of people here are imagining that not punishing Yaniv is going to make some sort of national headlines and lead to widespread criticism of Twitter, but this is just a tiny sideshow and will never be known about outside of a few tiny communities.

The troon era won't last forever.

 

[sperginity]

I think a lot of people here are imagining that not punishing Yaniv is going to make some sort of national headlines and lead to widespread criticism of Twitter, but this is just a tiny sideshow and will never be known about outside of a few tiny communities.

The most optimistic expectation in this thread is that twitter fires some people or changes some internal processes to prevent the next yaniv from having this level of control over what people talk about. It will make a difference even if no one pays attention or cares.

 

[terribledetective]

The most optimistic expectation in this thread is that twitter fires some people or changes some internal processes to prevent the next yaniv from having this level of control over what people talk about. It will make a difference even if no one pays attention or cares.

Yeah considering how hard it is to get some of these communities to admit the Jussie Smollett thing is off I'm less and less surprised at how hard it is for them to kick out Yaniv or do... anything. If you're part of the narrative, you get a shit ton of extra rope. This feels like one of those "dead to rights" things. But like Nyberg or Smollett or Brianna Wu, some groups/people seem to get a ridiculous number of chances/ignores before someone is forced to say anything.

Someone sent me an email this morning claiming that Yaniv is basically his Vordrak and is responsible for $200,000 in damages over several years. I'm asking for proof but this guy might genuinely be the most dangerous person we have a thread on at this point.

I agree, which is why I kinda sperged in my first post here. They feel dangerous to kids, to their detractors, to their own community and to groups like Terfs for lack of a better term. They seem to just seem to take any chance to attack and use any ammo they have- courts, TOS, the general media/social media climate. No remorse, no self examination. Keep us posted, cause this is really the cow I signed up to track and I agree- special case, very aggressive, possibly predatory.

 

[Splendid]

The most optimistic expectation in this thread is that twitter fires some people or changes some internal processes to prevent the next yaniv from having this level of control over what people talk about. It will make a difference even if no one pays attention or cares.

Yeah, but my point is that there's no sign that that's happening.
The only way I could see it happening is if Yaniv gets BTFO'd in his human rights cases and still continues acting this way and then the people he sues make a Twitter appeal. Maybe something could happen then.

 

[sperginity]

Yeah, but my point is that there's no sign that that's happening.
The only way I could see it happening is if Yaniv gets BTFO'd in his human rights cases and still continues acting this way and then the people he sues make a Twitter appeal. Maybe something could happen then.

Twitter's attorneys will have to look into it just to competently represent their client. It takes god damn forever for anything with attorneys or legal filings to happen, it is excruciatingly slow because of bureaucracy and the nature of the work. I would give it a couple of months before we would know anything.

 

[The Sorcerer]

This was shared somewhere earlier. It hints at Yaniv hiding in ralphs chat and this guy (dispatches partner) knowing who tampon boys sock account is which reveals some level of cooperation. I don't have any other information, though. I guess it could also be a different yaniv. This is all out of context so who knows. Thought it was worth a share. It will be cleared up if zoom ever releases all the leaks.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Worst case, he gets some shitty publicity he can't make go away, that's all I'm really expecting to be honest, given the climate Murphy's case is up against.

His (legitimate) business is fucked thanks to this affair, since nobody's going to be sending him free products for reviews or paying him to send DMCAs when there's a million other people who will do that who don't want to stick tampons in little girls. This shit will follow him around for the rest of his life.

 

[Big Nasty]

The troon era won't last forever.

Well, back in 2004 there were lots of people saying that "Political Correctness is dead" (because GW Bush got reelected). Don't get your hopes up.