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When feminists talk about gaslighting in a way that isn't truly the way the word was originally intended, the epitome of the behavior is Jonathan.

He'll give his little smug smirk about how he isn't at all creepy about girls and tampons, 5 minutes after talking for hours about the importance of little girls having tampon dispensers. It's absolutely crazymaking because of how obvious it is that he's lying, and the total nonchalance and volume of his lies.
 
I have no words to describe how horrified I am by this. The part that gets me the most how very few lgbt activists are pushing back against this guy. He’s making them look like they enable and condone sexual predators.
To be a realist - JY is a nobody. All their “fans” are fake and they don’t appear to actually have any “IRL” friends. They’ve flown under the radar so long and managed to strike anything before it picks up momentum. I really feel a lot of the LGBT community just either doesn’t know about him, or thinks JY is just an idiot and don’t take them seriously.

Didn’t take long. Alicia’s account was suspended.

I can’t wait for the backlash against twitter when this all rolls out and it’s even suggested someone higher up has been protecting Yaniv on the platform. Just what any huge company wants, to be associated with a pedophile. ?
 
Now that Morgane has publicly come out against him, major news outlets should probably start assuming it's open season on one pedo boi.

All the stuff about getting women banned from Twitter and other platforms (like Gallus Mag getting her blog killed off) is going to be delicious icing on the cake for some intrepid reporter.
 
Do you have an exact link?

Yeah, it's in Oger's article;

This is why we have laws addressing online predators. Our society has put in place laws and policies in place to help protect us all from the things I have heard testimony about. It is possible people can change and that this is all behind us. However, Yaniv seems to be still
engaging in programs that target young women and is actively campaigning about the topic of menstrual products and girls, the focus of years of her negative behaviour. Yaniv’s recent public appearance in front of municipal policymakers motivated writing this piece.

The first link is to Jessica for Miss BC gofundme. The second is for Township of Langley 4/15
 
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Around the time Hendley got suspended, Oger named her in this piece now revised:

https://morganeoger.ca/2019/04/19/p...kes-you-a-predator-regardless-of-who-you-are/
http://archive.li/4uiBV

The Post Millennial is now covering Oger's prior version of this essay; https://www.thepostmillennial.com/m...st-who-got-meghan-murphy-banned-from-twitter/

Preying on children makes you a predator regardless of who you are
Morgane Oger Canada, consent, predator, Uncategorized April 19, 2019 7 Minutes
I have dreaded writing this article for the months I have considered it. The people who advise me recommend against it but I feel it is necessary. Holding this knowledge while vetting it has kept me up at night and it is not with levity I use the word predator literally.
People in marginalized communities are extremely sensitive to the misbehaviour of their own, especially when it reinforces prejudice. The instinct to band together and be unyielding is strong, and I reject the prejudice that surrounds this story. Sometimes we resist exposing difficult conversations to the outside. Jessica Yaniv is forcing such an awful conversation.
None of the allegations I write about today have been proven or ruled on by a court. This article is based entirely on eyewitness accounts, which are always highly subjective.
I wish it wasn’t a transgender person or someone saying they are part of the LGBTQ+ community who has been doing what Jessica Yaniv has reportedly been doing for years – as far back as 2013.
I am mindful that it doesn’t matter what Yaniv’s gender is or how she got to where se is. It is valid and that’s not a debating point for me. We are all entitled to the same legal protection and process when facing allegations, especially accusations related to awful conduct – especially towards children.
I know that with over 150,000 transgender persons in Canada, it is inevitable that some of us misbehave. Transgender and non-binary persons are artists, housewives, doctors, a judge, politicians, chronically underemployed, professionals, and blue-collar workers. Like other communities, ours also features a number who are cheaters, predators, liars rapists, pedophiles, pimps, and others who do harmful things. Knowing the correlation between marginalization and suppression and individual acts of misbehaviour, I would not be surprised to learn the proportion of miscreants who are transgender is higher than the general population. It usually is with oppressed groups.
But the things that people have told me Jessica Yaniv has done to them are awful and can’t be swept out of our consciousness. Awful things have been reported and need to be taken seriously.
I met Jessica Yaniv at an event where I appeared as speaker. I had just been on a panel on transgender rights after performing in the cast of Trans Scripts Part 1: The Womenat The Cultch in Vancouver and after the Q & A she and I had a very brief chat. Yaniv brought up something about human rights cases and an interest in standing up for transgender rights. I encourage transgender people to fight for our rights and to force difficult conversations out into the open I encouraged any valid complaint being filed to get the difficult conversation started.
This post is also about difficult conversations: the conversation we need to have to address mortifying misdeeds in our own communities.
Some time after that first conversation I learned more about the specifics of Yaniv’s actions and her history and actions. In the only other conversation with her when she called me at my Trans Alliance Society number in early 2019 I advised her that she did not seem to me to be the appropriatd person to fight for trans women’s rights to services for women – on the basis of her documented past history.
With the help of other women who pointed the way in recent months, I tracked down and heard witnesses with first-person accounts of Jessica’s online behaviour spanning 2013 to 2018.
Their stories included reports and evidence of outrageously inappropriate acts, some towards children who are tweens and teens. Some of the material has survived as screenshots, and what I saw shows what strikes me as a pattern of predatory behaviour. I am not in law enforcement or a lawyer but as the mom of kids under 14 I was horrified by what the women told me happened and I believe them.
Understandably, some of the women I spoke to have come to hold a deep concern about my community based on Yaniv’s actions. Some have even processed their experience as hatred of my community. I understand how they got there, and I hope their bias fades in time. Others have thankfully seen through this all despite of the trauma that was inflicted on them and seen an individual doing harmful things and nothing more.
I spoke to four women. Three of whom had awful experiences with Jessica Yaniv. All were young women and girls at the time.
They are all adults now. I urged each woman to make a complaint with police on the basis of the things they said happened. I hope this has an effect and with enough police reports there may be a case.
Regardless of anyone’s race, gender identity, sexual orientation, or other characteristic protected from discrimination, everyone is equally accountable for any harm we do. I mourn the fact that the wrath in social media about this one person has centered on her transgender status, and decry the actions of people who were so focused on that fact rather than focusing on getting to the bottom and helping alleged victims deal access justice and support. I regret some did lasting damage by spreading false information.
It is not lost on me that transphobic anger brought this matter to my attention in the first place, and only by targeting me personally. I wonder if the hatred helped or hindered this all. I suspect we will never know. I deeply regret the harmful behaviour of some people, and that includes the ones aimed at my community. If only mindsets were not easily driven to hatred by people manipulating affirmation bias…

Anyone in a marginalized community (or claiming to be in one) is entitled to live without discrimination because of who they are. At the same time, nobody gets to behave like Yaniv has been documented to have consistently behaved until recently – no matter what their mental health or gender identity is. Whether there is a mental health matter at play or pure mischief, nobody can expect to interact with children like I have heard testimony that Yaniv did without rightfully facing justice or accessing treatment.
Amanda Todd’s tragedy taught us a great deal about the damage a predator can cause to a child without actually touching them.
This is why we have laws addressing online predators. Our society has put in place laws and policies in place to help protect us all from the things I have heard testimony about. It is possible people can change and that this is all behind us. However, Yaniv seems to be still engaging in programs that target young women and is actively campaigning about the topic of menstrual products and girls, the focus of years of her negative behaviour. Yaniv’s recent public appearance in front of municipal policymakers motivated writing this piece.
To my knowledge Yaniv has not addressed her widely-documented past behaviour and this info itself is cause for concern. I believe sometimes people can change, but I see no signs of this having happened.
Were you or someone you know affected by predatorial online behaviour?
Do you feel it was more than one of those awful-and-far-too-common short-lived creepy moment? If so, the appropriate place to complain to is your local police. Also notifying a community advocate can’t hurt.
I’d like to take a moment to express my gratitude to the women who trusted me enough to share their experience with me and with the competent authorities. I’d specifically like to acknowledge the patience and perseverance of Louise Nussac and Alicia Hendley who were very helpful and supportive my research and helped me speak to other women about this.
Regrettably Alicia’s frustrating experiences led her to write an anti-trangender article on Meghan Murphy’s anti-transgender Feminist Current naming me that impacted this research and and extensively tweeted attacks against the Transgender community. I regret her actions but understand her motivation. It is important to show witnesses of this awful situation empathy. People who observe awful things sometimes react awfully. I hope that as time passes cooler heads will prevail.
I appreciate that in communities that consider mine with distrust or worse, my reputation as a trans rights activist proceeds me. I will continue to stand up for equality and inclusion. Human rights exist for a reason: assuring out society treats everyone equally.
I have recieved some criticism that this has taken too long. A timeline may be helpful. I learned of Jessica in November 2018. Soon after, a twitter storm errupted about a legal case that had clearly been under way. It resulted in Gendertrender being banned from WordPress and Meghan Murphy having her Twitter accounts closed, two wins widely applauded by the transgender people they incessantly harassed through populist outrage.
I learned about Louise in January 2019 and spoke to her that month. I notified police immediately and passed on a recorded conversation with her. I finally spoke to the most important witness, who was a child at the time of her interactions with Yaniv, in April 2019.
It was impossible for me to speak about allegations so steeped in transphobia because every transgender person is familiar with the transgender-woman-as-predator model used by hate groups advocating to marginalize us. Without real evidence, this horrible story is simply indistinguishable from the copious hate propaganda that clogs my social media.
People who claim that allegations against Yaniv were public knowledge for years before this post must be deeply frustrated that people who could have helped act were unaware or not listening. I have a simple message for them:
It’s unlikely public figures are the monsters your social media silo tells you they are. There is no cover under the trans umbrella for predators.
We must consider what these allegations sound like from the lens of the community being targeted as a by product of the violence. After all, lynch mobs are scary things, even online. Perhaps we need to center our fury on the people who prey on transgender women with their alarmist fairy tales that made this incident undetectable from a dominantly hateful narrative?
When there is a predator among us, we can’t hear you if you bury your words in hatred and if you don’t reach out.
Here are some useful links:
https://l-ou-ise.com/breaking-silence
http://mediasmarts.ca/sexual-exploitation/online-sexual-predators
https://www.cybeffrtip.ca/app/en/
https://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/3bda0f2f-3488-4e1a-a409-42a8c149a8d8/Online-Predators.aspx
https://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/3bda0f2f-3488-4e1a-a409-42a8c149a8d8/Online-Predators.aspx
tl;dr from Oger?

'Perhaps we need to center our fury on the people who prey on transgender women with their alarmist fairy tales that made this incident undetectable from a dominantly hateful narrative? When there is a predator among us, we can’t hear you if you bury your words in hatred and if you don’t reach out."
 
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When feminists talk about gaslighting in a way that isn't truly the way the word was originally intended, the epitome of the behavior is Jonathan.

He'll give his little smug smirk about how he isn't at all creepy about girls and tampons, 5 minutes after talking for hours about the importance of little girls having tampon dispensers. It's absolutely crazymaking because of how obvious it is that he's lying, and the total nonchalance and volume of his lies.

IMO it is in line with the intended meaning though. Yeah, ok, JY isn’t literally in my house messing with the lights then denying it in order to make me feel like I can’t trust my own perceptions. But he’s deadass acting like an active, perverse predator and he knows that people, especially women, especially women who have survived the likes of him, AND especially survivors who are gender critical, recognize him for exactly what he is. And yet he’s playing dumb and acting like it’s all in their heads and something that they’re imagining.

He knows. They know. And he knows that they know. And he keeps playing this game. And pushing it, and pushing it.

So yeah, this isn’t the same as the kind of classic gaslighting that goes on in private relationships, but Yaniv is too fuckin dumb and repulsive to have one of those. This is the kind that plays out in public. He’s doing it, he knows what he’s doing, he enjoys it. He does it in such a way that it’s in plain sight and crazy making and difficult to point out in a way that outsiders (and enablers) will believe or acknowledge. Yaniv is no evil genius, but he knows how to toe the line and play the game so he can bullshit people and get his rocks off.
 
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So imma take a break from even attempting to make thoughtful well written posts here and say that I CANNOT BELIEVE that this COMPLETE OBVIOUS TAMPON PERVERT PEDOPHILE is STILL. PUBLICLY. sharing. his obsessions with UNDERAGE GIRLS AND TAMPONS. Ive never been much for conservatism or whatever but if this is what modernism and liberalism have brought us then burn it to the fucking ground
 

On mobile can someone archive ASAP!

The latest archive (Oger thanks Hendley, then trashes her along with Meghan Murphy and GenderTrender): http://archive.is/4uiBV

The earlier one from this morning is a page or two back in this thread
 
Laughing at Oger pretending not to notice that women have been complaining about Yaniv for years. He ain't fooling anyone. Oger's just trying to distance himself from a paedo because the shit's about to hit the fan.
Exactly. Imagine being so incredibly, myopically self-serving that you personally struggle regarding whether or not to protect little girls during one of the most vulnerable moments of their lives. It’s almost like the vast majority of troons are self-serving autistic perverts ??‍♀️
 

The only reason the predator Jonathan Yaniv has been able to get away with his outrageously and openly predatory pedophilic behavior is because of troon armor in the first place. The absolute immunity idiots have given trannies to do absolutely anything without penalty deserves as much criticism as the pedophile himself.

Yaniv is no evil genius, but he knows how to toe the line and play the game so he can bullshit people and get his rocks off.

He's a complete moron, in fact. He just knows what buttons to push and can spend all day sitting and pushing them until tranny tech jannies come and bail him out.

The problem is most predators aren't going to be as brazenly open about their pedophilia as this scumbag, and will continue to enjoy the special privileges the likes of the Rogaine Ogre insists on for his clan.
 
Louise is saying Alicia Hendley's suspension is permanent.

[B] ✨Louise ✨[/B]‏ @[B]L_ou_ise[/B] 37m37 minutes ago
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Please note that Alicia Hendley got permanently suspended by @twitter @twittersupport for stating the truth about JY and their HRC complaints. I hope Twitter comes back on their decision and realise they have been instrumentalised by a vengeful person

ETA: Morgane says ban "stinks of retaliation."

https://twitter.com/L_ou_ise/status/1119680078835781642
http://archive.is/o4dGG
 
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Well, whose fault is that? Yaniv is just the inevitable outcome of an over-indulgent attitude towards the trans community, where a trans person can engage in all sorts of antisocial behavior and even outright crimes, and anyone complaining is ostracized and condemned, even within the trans community.

I take back my guarded defense of Oger. I now firmly believe that the reason he’s suddenly come out against JY is because he’s Yaniv’s most prominent supporter, and Yaniv is being very smug about the fact that no one can stop him from getting close to the little girls he wants to molest. Oger knows that either smug-but-stupid Yaniv is going to just outright admit that he wants to fuck children or worse, get caught actually doing it. If Oger didn’t say something now, he’d inevitably have a lot of awkward questions to answer regarding how he could defend this predator when the evidence was out there.

If Yaniv had just STFU, Oger would still be siding with him.
 
Spent some time digging through JYs profile and this stands out a bit.
Are you certain that this post (and the ones you screencapped later in the thread) is from Yaniv's real account? I'm fairly certain he has at least one known troll account impersonating him.
 
Are you certain that this post (and the ones you screencapped later in the thread) is from Yaniv's real account? I'm fairly certain he has at least one known troll account impersonating him.
100% they are from the real account.
Right down to live videos celebrating their new birth certificates and documents and how “no one is perfect”.
 
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